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Is Ted Cruz a Neocon Plant like Obama?

Yesterday President Obama failed to show up or send a representative at the first Senate hearings on closing Guantanamo held since 2009. Senator Dick Durbin (IL) who hosted the hearings vouches that the White House was sent an invitation.

The White House snub was far from the most alarming thing that happening at the hearings.

Senator Ted Cruz (TX), who plays himself off as being a libertarian, came out during the hearings as opposing the closure of Guantanamo, ridiculously claiming that it would endanger American lives. http://presstv.com/detail/2013/07/25/315513/white-house-skip...

Of the original prisoners held in Guantanamo concentration camp, fewer than 200 remain. The rest were released over the years for lack of evidence against them. Prosecutors now admit that, at most, there is evidence to perhaps convict 20 of the remaining, 130 of which are being force feed under Obama's orders in order to keep them alive during an ongoing hunger strike that is now in its second month.

So, ask yourself this. What kind of libertarian is willing to keep known innocent men penned up in cages, to deny them the right to die in order to continue to keep them penned indefinitely in those cages, all the while denying them any access to a trial or any system of justice whatsoever? This is not libertarianism, this is evil incarnate walking the earth in the form of a man.

We need to remember that Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sach's, the Banksters who engineered the financial collapse and scrapped trillions of hard-earned savings out of American's bank accounts as a results. We need to remember that he is constantly pandering to Neocon voters, and, as we saw yesterday, he is willing to sacrifice people's freedom and lives, in order to do it as he claws his way to the top.

We need to rethink our support of Ted Cruz. In all likelihood he is a changeling, just like Obama, planted by the Neocons to sucker the gullible into perpetuating the system while they think they are reforming it.



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YES! Only Amash, Massie,

YES! Only Amash, Massie, and likely Rand Paul can be trusted.

You are either lying or just

You are either lying or just seriously misinformed. Rand did everything he possibly could to block the Patriot Act and definitely voted against it.

That was meant as a reply to

That was meant as a reply to roark183 below, who made the ridiculous claim that Rand actually voted for the Patriot Act.

Neo-con or not...

His endorsement for president in 2016 is of value to Rand Paul.

Cruz is setting up the democrat

talking points for 2014:

Sen. Cruz: Defund Obamacare before Americans become ‘addicted’ to subsidies

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/27/sen-cruz-def...

The democrats will pounce on this decrying the republicans as not caring about the poor. Why adopt this position when the constitutional argument is far more persuasive? I don't trust this guy.

Further more, when he says he can run for president, he's wrong. He was born in Canada. He may be a naturalized citizen, but he's never going to be a natural born citizen.

Verifying

I believe Cruz' parents were American, which under current law qualifies you no matter where you are born. At this point, with Obama, McCain having held office or run, precedent been set by the Neocons and we are already headed down the slippery slope to having a foreign puppet, but at this point it is clear we gave been ruled by foreign bankers for quite some time now so it is hardly a great difference.

no

http://www.thenewamerican.com/freedomindex/

he's not a libertarian, but he has a 90% score from the JBS freedom index. only Rand has a better score in the senate. there will be about 2 or 3 issues you won't agree with him.

https://twitter.com/#!/Agonzo1

I think we all...

have experienced people like him in high school.

ie. all ego and little substance imo.

donvino

Neo-con, parading as a liberty lover : strike One

Not a 'Natural born Citizen- Strike Two at least as far as the presidency is concerned

Likes Gitmo- Steerike-

Yer Out!

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Yep - He's a Neo-Con.

I used to like him but I'm seeing the light.

Cruz is no good.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

This sure starts the wheels

This sure starts the wheels turning! Ron Paul supported Cruz.

Are any of the people allowed into office not on the Reserves payroll?

If we can't trust the folks Ron Paul endorses who can we trust?

It appears our answers will never come from a vote as the whole system has been taken over.

Reverse order...

1. You're absolutely correct concerning the prospects for accomplishing anything through a vote.

2. It would have been a mistake to ever trust anyone Ron Paul endorsed, and he said as much. ("My supporters think for themselves, etc. ...and they don't listen to me.") Such endorsements were, apparently, the price in integrity that was required of Ron Paul to be a player in the game at all. That price was clearly not high enough to make a difference (from within the system). Those were endorsements to which he was counting on us not to listen.

Thus, we see Ron's son Rand attempting to pay a higher price. I'm very willing to accept in both of them these small (at least what might be viewed as) breaches of integrity, and still applaud their efforts to a certain extent. My guess is that Rand has reached the point of diminishing returns. The real gain of Ron Paul, in fact, was to make us, the remnant, aware of each other. He accomplished nothing in the system.

I view it as very unlikely that Rand will accomplish anything in the system, and he will contribute nothing to the remnant either, which is probably the only reasonable hope. It's very unfortunate, but in all likelihood, that's what we've got.

3. My guess is that neither Ron nor Rand is in the pocket of the Federal Reserve in regard to renumeration. The possibility, on the other hand, that the Federal Reserve cannot control or confound their efforts within the system is remote, except to the extent that their rhetoric may sway hearts and minds---probably a relatively small number of hearts and minds, but a valuable contribution nevertheless.

4. Keep those wheels turning, but don't place any value on an endorsement. That's the price of being responsible for yourself: Such evaluations are entirely your responsibility for the moment. Some of us hope we can create a market based advisory network that can be trusted, but endorsements from *any* politician can play no role in that.

"Breaches in Integrity"

great observation on both Ron and Rand.

I agree rand will probably not accomplish anything. He spends so much time pandering and talking like a neocon that the remnant is turned off and gains little (ron fed the remnant with invaluable knowledge), and its unlikely he will pull off any systemic changes, given what he is up against.

Ted Cruz

Has slime all over him.

Never had any doubt he wasn't

Never had any doubt he wasn't a fraud. He's got it written all over his slimy character.

Rand Paul is the man! The sooner we all agree, the better. Stop wasting precious time....

Huh?

And Rand Paul doesn't pander to the Neocons?????

Very funny.

YES HE IS !

YES HE IS !

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Sigh.

Sigh.

Makes me almost regret writing him that letter. Maybe I just wasted my time.

I'd suggest senator Cruz to get more clues from his father :

http://www.dailypaul.com/291638

Again, that'd be: better late than never.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Wifey works for Goldman Sachs. No wonder I still have....

reservations from the get-go for Ted (the Fed).

Wow, I certainly didn't know

Wow, I certainly didn't know that. I have been wondering all along if this guy is what he is pretending to be. I forget what it was exactly, but I heard something recently about his long time connection with/to George W. Bush. Dammit, I had hoped that he might actually be different. All right, next.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

Very good points

!

Is Pinocchio's

pecker pine?

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

LOL. That's one I haven't

LOL. That's one I haven't heard before.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

Who Do We Support?

Who do we support in the US Senate? Cruz would keep Guantanamo open and his wife works for Goldman Sachs. Rand Paul gave his support to Mitt Romney, voted for the Patriot Act and now has thrown his support to Mitch McConnell in his 2014 campaign. Neither is perfect.

Among all those mentioned as Presidential contenders in 2016, who should we support? Amash is not on the Presidential radar. Marco Rubio is a Tea Party turncoat among turncoats. Who should we support for President in 2016? We are still in the two-party system. Gary Johnson burned his bridges with the Republican Party. We don't have a Ron Paul around to run this time around, unless he comes out of retirement.

There are very few liberty minded Senators. Rand Paul & Ted Cruz are the two most prominent and if we don't support them, then who do we support? They are not perfect, but they deserve our support, lest we end up with someone like Congressman Peter King (R-NY) for President. Should we just settle for Hillary vs Peter King in 2016? No, I don't think so. Neither Cruz, Paul nor Mike Lee are perfect, but anyone of them is monumentally better than any other choices on the horizon.

Judge Napolitano

But really no one is coming to save us...at this point all we can do is wait and prepare for the inevitable collapse and try to rebuild on the ashes of what's left.

Cruz is not Presidental material as he doesn't qualify

he's not a natural born citizen. I'm sorry hes just not.

Not That It Matters....

Not that it matters, because whoever counts the votes will elect the next President, but I would hope for a better candidate from a third party to support....

Dennis Michael Lynch

for President! (look him up on Facebook)

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I agree 100%

Rand Paul's filibuster was going nowhere until Ted Cruz stood up.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Ted Cruz Uh- HELLO; I've said it for over a year now.

When it comes to that guy, what he is (neocon) and who he is (neocon) was OBVIOUS to anyone who really paid attention (not neocons). The guy is a HUGE NEOCON. He may as well be the lost-Bush-brother. He's the "smart-Dubya".
And, if everyone keeps supporting him, unwittingly, he may end up being another Bush-presidency.

Honestly; LOOK at what Rand and Cruz have in common, and do yourselves a favor; do not support either guy in the future. If we want some real change in this nation's government, down, we're going to have to make it happen.

First, I think we all make sure we and everyone we know is registered to vote, then, we BOYCOTT the entire process.
And then we get the poll-tapes from each precinct, and see which of us "did vote".

(They will have a tougher time fixing votes when the votes are not there to start with.)

We had SOME proof, but RNC does not care about Rules n Laws- they just break and then change 'em to suit whomever (not PAUL).