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Why Zimmerman Story Actually Matters... UPDATE: Because Trayvon is a Racial False Flag


A comment I wrote in another post:

"It's more than about dividing us, or distracting us. The whole trial is a false flag. It's meant as a message to blacks: you're under attack by whites. Trayvon is the Lusitania for racial strife and the black community."

This is what it's all about I've decided. This is what the case actually is, and it's why it matters. Sure, some at DP are pretty upset about this, and it has created an uncommonly wide rift (wait, maybe I'm forgetting the Gary Johnson days). I disagree with the notion that we should just ignore it for the good of the community here, that it's 'only' about distraction or division.

No, this is a full blown cultural media false flag. We need to call it out and stay on top of it.


I have stayed away from this topic for a few weeks now. Though I haven't commented, I've been keeping up with the threads and have been consistently bothered by the attitudes of the anti-Zimmerman crowd. This story is going to continue to matter, because it's a pivot point being used to reshape society's view of race and prepare for the coming chaos. No, we shouldn't be distracted or divided by this. Yes, we must pay attention and discuss it to get to the right place on this issue.

I'm going to actually start backwards from my title. There are some facts, yes I said facts, that the anti-Zimmerman people just keep getting wrong. So, I'm going to lay out those facts, again I said facts, to get this discussion sorted out but also to give context for my later argument about why this story matters.

Here are facts about what happened in real life between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin:

#1 It wasn't about race
The DOJ has been trying hard to work this angle to get federal jurisdiction on this case. Their internal memo showed that they can't. Zimmerman has black ancestors, is half hispanic, has black friends, has worked politically with the black community in favor of democrats, has had his neighborhood patrol instincts affected by his desire to help a black family that were victims of burglary. His community has a significant percentage of blacks.

Zimmerman followed Trayvon because of very reasonable pressures and stresses having to do with a pattern of crime in the community. Whether it was paranoid or 'statist' of Zimmerman to assume that a suspicious teenager was a criminal is another story. The point is that there's no evidence it was because of racism.

Other cases, oh like that Roderick fellow, show that when the races are reversed, the outcome is the same. But NBC News edited that tape in the most despicable of ways to make Zimmerman appear racist. Al Sharpton, the DOJ, and others are desperately organizing the black community, circling their wagons in a frenzied way - calling in black celebrities, the 'BET' circuit - to try and freak out about race. And yet, it has nothing to do with race. How is it that a situation that had nothing to do with race leads to all this grandstanding about race relations in America. If it feels like the Twilight Zone it should - because malevolent forces are trying to take over the world of truth from behind their veil of evil. They are expending money, fear, celebrity to try and push some false agenda meant to impose something artificial on our minds when we know the truth. Keep that in mind.

#2 Zimmerman was allowed to follow Trayvon
He didn't run him down waving a gun in the air. Trayvon had no way of knowing Zimmerman had a gun, and would probably have never fought him if he did. Zimmerman's account of the fight - I'm not saying it's true - but it's consistent with grass stains and so forth - indicates that it's very likely that Trayvon didn't know about the gun until they were fighting.

Zimmerman probably went a little far in his 'statist wannabe cop' paranoia in following Trayvon. If you treat law and politics like a basketball game - sure that's a three pointer for Trayvon's side. But it's not a game! Legally, Zimmerman had every right to keep eyes on Trayvon for the time that he did. Ethically, given the crime in the neighborhood and the fact that Zimmerman had been burned by guys getting out of his sight, it's understandable why Zimmerman did what he did. Even so, sure, rack up a couple 'points' for your 'team' on this one.

But it wasn't illegal, or wrong, and none of this hysteria - he was a rapist, he chased him down with a gun, he was ginnin for a fight - it's all lies. Zimmerman was following someone suspicious period.

#3 There was no order to 'not follow' from 911
I shouldn't have to go over these details. Look them up. Point is, legally there was no order. Ethically, the order didn't even mean anything. It's not as if the dispatcher said, "Don't follow him, there could be trouble, and you might be legally liable or get hurt if there is." He just said the standard, "911 is not requiring you to take action, so don't sue us if you do and it turns out bad".

#4 Trayvon attacked Zimmerman
I'll talk about 'proof' in point number 5, but this is pretty well established. Zimmerman was on the phone the whole time, so there's some indication of what happened. There's text message evidence Trayvon made it to his house before returning back to confront Zimmerman. Zimmerman was out of shape, by all accounts, all the witnesses saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman, on top of him. Zimmerman had injuries, Trayvon had bruised knuckles (and pot in his system, and liver damage from DX). Why no Zimmerman DNA on Trayvon?

Think about it, it's indisputable that Zimmerman and Trayvon fought. At one point some people thought that Zimmerman walked up to him and just shot him for being black. Please. No, they fought. We argue (stupidly) about who started it who was on top, etc. Look, if Zimmerman had the upper hand at any point, wouldn't struggling Trayvon have scratched him, or been scratched by him? No, no Zimmerman DNA on Trayvon. This indicates that Trayvon had the upperhand the whole time. I'm not putting that forward as proof, I'm just saying that 'if we're going to go there...'

Either way, there was a fight, and ALL the evidence we have shows Trayvon started it and dominated it.

#5 The Meaning of Evidence
So, most of the anti-Zimmerman posters argue that "well, but the bleeding on Zimmerman wasn't enough" or "it was the testimony of like two people" or "well, only 4 people thought Zimmerman's voice was the one screaming and I personally think it might have been Trayvon probably". There's this sort of equivocation of evidence.

If Zimmerman had ended up dead, oh say for example, if his story is accurate and Trayvon said, "You're going to die tonight motherfucker." and he succeeded in grabbing the gun and shooting Zimmerman - THEN we talk about whether these little doubts about the evidence show that there's a reasonable chance that just maybe Trayvon didn't do it.

*Let me pause and remark on that. Imagine if Trayvon had just grabbed the gun first. Zimmerman would be dead and I promise you we wouldn't know about this story. Imagine. Weird huh, just a couple seconds different on a situation that 98% the same but we'd be having a totally different discussion if at all*

There is a MORE than reasonable chance that Zimmerman was innocent. So what is the point of constantly going at those little points?

What this effort to say, "Well, Zimmerman didn't know the street so for all we know he killed, raped, then fought Trayvon." ??

It's a disease of the mind.

Let me explain. So, this case had nothing to do with stand your ground. NOTHING THE HELL AT ALL!!! But the media, public officials, celebrities keep talking about it. Twilight Zone folks! The only thing this case had to do with stand your ground is that the liberal media didn't like the law, a case occurred which, the media not having all the facts (when does that ever happen), was judged to have to do with stand your ground, and was used as a football to push criticism of stand your ground.

Think about that. Forget the victim, forget the people, the case, the evidence. Here is something that has nothing to do with stand your ground, and we're talking about stand your ground. Shouldn't that be a clue to our anti-Zimmerman folks?

This is my point. Right here. The powers that be picked up on a spiritual energy, an anger and emotion of chaos, arising from this narrative so they've ran with it.

The truth has nothing to do with it. Chaos, evil, division, tyranny, falsehood - all of it rising because the powers that be are pushing it. The truth is powerless.

And so it's a problem, a big problem, that people on DP (it's diverse and open, I know, I'm not suggesting any policies or changes, just making a point) buy into this negative spiritual energy.

I don't think Zimmerman is a hero, but I think he is a tremendous victim. More so than Trayvon. Trayvon didn't deserve death for his actions, but he valued the sort of things - drugs, thug life, etc. - that lead in that direction. Zimmerman to, in a Karmic way, got what's coming by being a big democrat and police lover. But, his motive was sincere - protect others in his community and put them before himself. Look at what he did with that SUV, coming out of hiding like that. He's not a hero, nor a perfect person, but the negative attention - the death threats - is a grave injustice. Trayvon's death was a tragedy, but Zimmerman's situation is an injustice.

And the family he helped on the road is now afraid for their lives. Wow, look how the anti-Zimmerman energy causes a good deed to redound into fear and hatred. Is THAT enough evidence for you of what's really going one.

Anyway, here is why this case matters.

The ability for the powers that be to turn ignorance and spiritual impotence into a lust for chaos is their most significant 'power', if you will. It is really the keystone of this whole war if that makes sense.

If we can be taught to hate lowly Zimmerman...
Then we can be made to believe that Syria deserves to burn.

If we can be taught to hate lowly Zimmerman...
Then we can be convinced that our problems are caused by others, that we go up by bringing others down.

That the market is a failure.
That prosperity is sin.
That responsibility is oppression.

If we can be taught to hate lowly Zimmerman...
We can believe that Al Qaeda hates us for our freedom. Why not? We don't need a reasonable explanation or proof. They're different, they wear towels on their heads. Once one of them said something, that sort of supports the point - and besides what evidence do you have that America overthrowing leaders across the middle east was really that bad?

If we can be taught to hate lowly Zimmerman...
Because Jay-Z says so, well, then, Al Gore says we should stop driving our cars and ride government buses to our government job. He's famous!

If we can be taught to hate lowly Zimmerman...
We'll hate anybody, anywhere, for any reason. Because the masters of our minds said so. Because we don't go to church, we don't know what we believe, we don't know what's coming after life let alone what's next in life, we don't understand how the world works, or why we have what we have, or what we have to do to get it. We do know that if we had less than what we have, no tv, no pro sports, no two-party system, no 'establishment', no university to give tenure, no corporate job to give promotion, no government union to agitate for a coveted pension - well, then we'd have absolutely nothing. So we go with the flow, and follow our masters' orders, and we fear independence, and reason, and we fear ourselves and more so each other. The universe is a void, because our souls have been made void.

We survive by ignoring the void, then worshiping the void, then pushing others into the void ahead of us. And so when the masters of the void rally us, enlist us, we'll push the whole universe into the void ahead of us.

There are two reasons why the Zimmerman story is important:

1) To some extent, it is a distraction, meant to divide. Realizing this is important. It's a learning opportunity, and proves that this isn't about a poor dead boy (how many die because of crime or drone strikes for that matter?). It's about an agenda.

2) But, the story also has a truth. There's this idea that being ecumenical concerning truth is the right way to go. That's true when your goal is peace in society - limit things to the non-aggression principle. It's also true in a political coalition.

Still, on this Zimmerman issue, I hate to say it, but there's a truth. Which is: Zimmerman is by all accounts innocent. The evidence to the contrary is spurious. There are bad people expending great resource to spread obvious lies to convince people there was an injustice here. Surrounding those efforts is a dark energy that is symptomatic of all our big problems.

So, the hard truth here is that, really, the anti-Zimmerman people are wrong. And as awkward and hard as it is for the community here, those of us who see the truth here have to continue to stick up for it and for George Zimmerman.

It's not about us being divided, it's not about buying into the division. It's about standing against the evil and the chaos.


And I'm not a troll. I've stated before that I think liberty is an actual value - not merely a procedural 'compromise'. Believing in liberty means believing in certain individual rights. Not everyone believes in those rights. Some people worship the collective. So, even though liberty is great in part because it's conducive to 'can't we all just get along', in fact if some of us believe in anti-liberty evil we really 'can't just all get along'.

To me, we can disagree on a lot of issues.


If you think it's okay to:
*Just force someone to do something because you 'like' your way better
*Resort to violence because dealing with an issue otherwise is too 'hard' or you're 'angry' or
*Completely disregard obvious evidence

Then in my opinion you and liberty have a problem. In. My. Opinion.

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who sided with loser Zimmerman?

Well the usual suspects Orielly, Hannity Limbaugh, if I'm wrong and those guys are right well, I guess I never want to be right.

Oh BTW good luck with trying to get a black man to ever vote for in the Republican Party again.

If this is your argument on black people

Then you're giving racist white people a great justification to be racist.

You're saying: black people will buy into hysterical mis-truths and if you're not okay with just being cool with that then black people have nothing to do with you.

There are plenty of black people that have taken my stance concerning Zimmerman, Sowell, Elder, and more.

Loser Zimmerman? Wtf? Did you read my post? You're proving the latter half of my post right, and you wouldn't think about it the way you do if you had read the first half.

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The implacable logic of innocent reason

Just IMO, but I think a little girl definitely closed the argument... on the relevance of only continuing to argue on... oh, wait, a closed case, precisely :



In one simple, straight, matter-of-fact question of hers, striking at the root of evil and absurdity, and ignoring the distracting branches...

Not bad, indeed. Is it?

I know!

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

The implacable logic

of a white child growing up in a white community. This is not the experience of a black child growing up in a black community. Black children are taught to be suspicious of the police and the criminal justice system. This is cultural and not without supporting evidence.

Nine is a little young, but as she grows, show her this website and teach her why, typically, black people are less trusting of the police and the criminal justice system and are less likely, as a first response, to call the police:

"About 70 percent of those exonerated by DNA testing are people of color."


This is the experience of people of color who have been in prison, some for over a decade, convicted of crimes they didn't commit. There are two sad facts that can be drawn from this information. Innocent people have been imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit, and, barring a miracle, the victims or victims' families will never receive justice.

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There ought to be only one justice, for all.

And law ought to be justice, not social management.

I maintain she struck at the root, while some are still obsessed with color of skin and group think.

Finding excuses to people's actions never helps.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Zimmerman had to follow him

There had been several break ins and a home invasion by young men, well young black men, but you could not tell Trayvon was black at first.

If Zimmerman had been my neighborhod watch, I would have expected him to get out of his vehicle to keep an eye on a person who did not live there, and let's face it, I saw the store video, Trayvon was dressed like a thug. I know that is how the young blacks like to dress, but than if you want to dress like a thug, than do not freak out when someone thinks you are a thug.

I would have expected my neighborhood watch to keep an eye on him until the police took over.

reverse the race: trial outcome?

For those interested in what the outcome might have been if the shooter were black and the victim white, check out the Roderick Scott case from 2009:

If the races were reversed?

If the races were reversed? What trial? There never would have been a trial. In my opinion.

P.S. I also don't think there would have been a trial if G.Z. was black. In either scenario, it would not have even made the national news. No one would even know their names, because, apparently, when black people kill other black people, it is apparently considered unimportant enough to even be reported. At least on the national level. And at the local level, it is just reported as another killing; and the races of the shooter and the victim aren't even mentioned. The same goes for when a black person or persons beat or kill a white person. The color of the perpetrator isn't mentioned. I'd like to ask a news reporter why that is.

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Blown prosecution - should've been charged w/ manslaughter, and they could've probably gotten a conviction. Also, the reaction to the media-hyped racial aspect to the story is what makes it important, not the killing itself. It's a social study in race-relations waiting for funding.

LOL If Ariel Castro had shot

LOL If Ariel Castro had shot a black kid for wandering onto his property you'd all be enthusiastically defending him too and calling him a hero.

That's all I have a problem with.

What is this "if"?

Castro kidnapped young women. What are you even talking about with this "if"? I dislike "ifs" because "ifs" are things that NEVER HAPPENED.

Castro kidnapped and raped young women. I do not get your "if".

Thug is the new

Thug is the new terrorist.

But Trayvon was going to make lean with that tea and skittles!

Says the libertarian who wants to legalize cocaine. lol.

Wrong wrong wrong.

First off, I have tried to refrain from commenting on this case also,but I have to say your post has irritated me to the point where I have to comment. First flaw in your so called facts." Zimmerman was allowed to follow Travon". Wrong! any neighborhood watch in any part of the country will tell you that you are never allowed to follow someone, to stop someone or try to prevent a crime you are a neighborhood watch and all you are allowed to do is Watch. Zimmerman knew this and the 911 operator reminded him of it but instead of listening to instructions from an officer , Zimmerman wanted to play Junior G-man.

Secondly,"it's pretty much established that Travon attacked Zimmerman".How do you know this I thought it was pretty much established that there were no witnesses to the crime except one man who said he saw two men wrestling on the ground with one man wearing black but he really couldn't tell because it was too dark. Where does that establish the fact that Travon attacked Zimmerman? and by the way doesn't the 17-year-old black kid have a right to stand his ground also, I mean he's walking in a neighborhood minding his own business and he's being followed by a guy is no credidntials, no uniform but a deadly loaded weapon.I think if I was being followed by a guy with a loaded gun I'd try to kick his ass before he pulled the gun on me.

I thought this was a libertarian site? Is this the kind of country we want where every wannabe cop with a loaded weapon has a right to stop us and ask us "what are you doing here" "where is your ID?"it's bad enough that a real cop gets to do this.And another fact that you forgot to mention was that Zimmerman approached this kid with his gun OFF safety. Anybody who is ever taken a law course knows that the only time you ever take your gun OFF safety is when you intend to use it. Either Zimmerman is a complete idiot or he approached this guy intending to use the weapon.

Another flawed fact to your theory and this one is really insulting you claim that Travon was a THUG, though he never had a criminal record and there is no evidence that he was ever in a gang .You only assume that he is a thug because he is a 17-year-old black kid. You're just proving the point that race had everything to do with this case.

Other facts you fail to mention Zimmerman was never properly equipped, he didn't have a flashlight he didn't have a tazer and he was never properly trained. He was only carrying a loaded weapon and looking for trouble.

Maybe Zimmerman had all good intentions, maybe Zimmerman never intended to kill anybody but Zimmerman made a lot of poor decisions and because of that a 17-year-old kid is dead.and when you kill someone because of your mistakes you should have to pay for the price.
This case reminds me of the cop in San Francisco who was trying to subdue another kid so he went for his tazer, but instead he grabbed his gun and shot the kid dead. He had no intentions of killing someone and to me he is far less guilty than Zimmerman and yet he is now serving 10 years in prison because of that one mistake. When you make as many poor decisions as Zimmerman did that night and someone is dead because of it , you should have to pay for your mistakes.

Oh and BTW, this case has everything to do with race because if Travon had been a 17-year-old white kid wearing a Ron Paul T-shirt and passing out campaign for liberty leaflets you guys would be screaming for Zimmerman to get the death penalty. Tell me I'm wrong.

Your Arguments Are All Made Up

"Zimmerman approached this kid with his gun OFF safety. Anybody who is ever taken a law course knows that the only time you ever take your gun OFF safety is when you intend to use it"

You say their were no witnesses so the OP doesn't know that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman then you later state as fact that Zimmerman approached Trayvon which their were no witnesses too either.

You say that Zimmerman was not allowed to follow Trayvon. This is not correct. Their is no rule or law about following a suspicious person. Its not stalking since he was reporting trayvon's location to 911. 911 said we don't need you to follow Trayvon. You are not obligated to follow 911 operators suggestions. They have no legal authority to tell u what u can and can not do. The location of the altercation did not happen where Zimmerman said trayvon was headed. It occurred near his truck suggesting Zimmerman turned around was heading back towards his truck not continuing to follow trayvon.

"Zimmerman approached this kid with his gun OFF safety. Anybody who is ever taken a law course knows that the only time you ever take your gun OFF safety is when you intend to use it"

You completely made this up since the gun zimmerman used was a Kel-Tec PF-9 which does NOT have a SAFETY. Their is ZERO evidence Zimmerman approached Trayvon and that he had his gun drawn.

Trayvon had no criminal past and was not a thug.

Being a thug is a matter of opinion but trayvon had a criminal history.
he was suspended from school twice, once for having a burglary tool and stolen jewelery and a second time for drug possession. (both illegal)

He had text messages about fighting a guy and wanting a rematch because "he didn't bleed enough"

A picture of himself holding a gun which.
adding up the facts in my opinion equals THUG

Zimmerman was not properly equipped.

Your opinion. Should Zimmerman have been carrying a tazer, OC spray, a baton, Bean Bag Shotgun, Nun chucks, a knife, a bull horn, a whistle, a reflexive vest, handcuffs, an AED, life preserver and flashlight and an attack dog. Obviously duh

The FBI (who also investigated the case) told Eric Holdder's Their is a ponderousness amount of evidenced suggesting Zimmerman was not racist and non suggesting he was.

Watch this Video and turn off MSNBC and the MSM. And try to think for yourself rather then buying into the MSM narritive.


To say that a neighborhood watch is allowed to pursue a suspect

HuH, that's a pretty ignorant asinine statement have you ever been to a neighborhood watch meeting?you are trained to avoid any kind of situation that could escalate into a into a crime such as this one. It might of not actually been illegal but it was certainly ill-advised and from the outcome, it was pretty stupid.

Okay, so maybe you're right about the gun not having a safety. And this is what I had heard from the MSM and I can only go by what I heard I was not there. So let's say you're right, the gun had no safety latch on it. Then why wasn't Zimmerman wearing a holster to prevent someone else from grabbing the gun.it's because Zimmerman put the gun in his pants. Now how stupid do you have to be to put a gun with no safety latch in your pants.

And as far as the actual fight goes nobody knows what happened. Zimmerman could've easily approached Travon pointing a loaded weapon at him and at that point according to Stand your ground, Travon had every right to kick is ass.

And as far as travon being a thug, well he might've been arrested a couple of times but from what I have heard from the MSM he was never prosecuted and how many 17-year-olds do you know that smoke pot does that make them a thug?

Perhaps you like living in a police state. Perhaps you like the idea of some flunky overweight wannabe cop running around in your neighborhood carrying a deadly weapon and asking people for their ID. Well I sure don't.

The fact of the matter is if Zimmerman would've minded his own business like he should have this tragedy never would've happened.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out

and remove all doubt."

"that's a pretty ignorant asinine statement have you ever been to a neighborhood watch meeting?"

No but I know you have a right to follow a suspicious person and phone in the location to 911.

"Okay, so maybe you're right about the gun not having a safety. And this is what I had heard from the MSM"

Repeating MSM non sense is your problem. Try thinking for yourself and you wont come off half as stupid.

Smoking pot didn't make Trayvon a thug. Stealing jewelry, fighting people and bragging about it, possessing burglary tools, taking pictures flipping off the camera and holding a gun, getting suspended from school, getting kicked out of your mothers house and having to go live with your dad because of "behavior problems" makes him a thug.

"And as far as the actual fight goes nobody knows what happened"

The only intelligent thing you said. Unfortunately you went on to suggest Zimmerman approached Trayvon with his gun drawn. Testimony suggests Zimmerman was on the ground getting his head smashed repeatedly into the cement before he drew his gun. Zimmerman had a holster and the gun was holstered until he drew it laying on his back. the forensics proved zimmerman shot trayvon while he was on top of him on the ground.

Brilliant analysis that I

Brilliant analysis that I agree with. Aside from the anti fire arms and anti stand your ground aspects, I suspect that the Obombya admin and other evil cohorts want to foment racial tension so that the black community does not coalesce with the independents, libertarians or conservatives. I just have this feeling that we were reaching toward a tipping point where blacks might see the raw deal they are getting with democrat politics and policies...that the people that say they are looking out for blacks are actually screwing them over...maybe blacks might start looking for new allies. Can't let that happen so they must play the race card, keep people pitted against one another, keep blacks in the victim role. Better for the feds for blacks to riot about race rather than riot about government corruption. After all, if things are so bad and you have not much to lose you can do a lot of damage and cause out of control chaos for those in power. Rather to have controlled chaos is what it looks like to me.



Trayvon & Zimmerman FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trayvon & Zimmerman FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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People who think this case was a distraction don't follow gun politics or don't care about them. This was a major case for self defense, ccw, and stand your ground. I don't think anyone I know who is involved in gun politics would deny that.

Trying to make this about race IS the distraction.

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Did you read the latest news headlines about Zimmerman?

"Juror said Zimmerman got away with murder"

If you read the complete article carefully, what the juror said was that she felt that Zimmerman should be guilty, but the evidence and the law doesn't support her feeling. So she had to go by the law and the evidence but she felt sorry for Martin's parents.

She also said that according to the law Zimmerman shouldn't have been charged at all and the trial was for show!

So how does that make you feel as compare to the headline "Zimmerman got away with murder!"

I am thinking that the media is trying to stir up more hate and more violence! I pray that it will not come to past!

I think it's about Twitter

So, the powers that be have lots of tools and data analysis processes. But, they aren't gods, they have to decide what to do about it.

I bet they look at aggregate twitter metadata (an easy tool), and are like, "Crap, this is really motivating people... Let's exploit it!!"

And they will.


I'm done with this trial. It's 10 min are up in my eyes.

Breath of Fresh Air

Unfortunately most of the comments below indicate that people haven't read your post. It's worth a real read, even if it is long.

What does racism have to do with it?

Can a racist not defend him/herself against a different race attacker? Is self defense while racist a crime? Of course not. The idea wreaks of thought control.

I don't care if Zimmerman considered himself a honorary member of the KKK. If we take it as fact that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, and was trying to either kill Zimmerman or cause him grievous bodily injury, Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon.

I am

quite tired of hearing about this bs story. WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS TO DO WITH. Sorry man. But I had to break it to you. If some one asks me about this. I tell them I don't care.

I agree

Except that now the 'minority juror' has come out and thinks he 'got away with murder'.

This story isn't over.

You think it would be, but it has so much traction and it will continue to affect things. So, we need to stop arguing and call it out hard.

This whole damned story is

This whole damned story is completely media driven and totally over saturated. I'm quite sick of it. The only reason why the story has any legs is because the state run media has an agenda to grind and elements within our government have been trying to plant the seeds of a race war for a long time. They want to divide us...that is their sole intention.

The only standards the old state run media have are double standards.

Facts don't matter anymore. Their divide and conquer agenda does.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

The only reason "Trayvon

The only reason "Trayvon supporters" made an example of this case was to say, 'If this kid was a wealthy white kid, the police, legal system, media, and public would see this differently'.

And that the difference works out more often than not to the detriment of people with darker skin.

George Zimmerman would not have been let go as quickly that night by police. Fox News would find it hard to believe the kid randomly attacked Zimmerman, and MSNBC wouldnt give a got damn. And the daily paul wouldn't be posting irreverent remarks about a dead 17 year old as if confirming the rumors that Ron and Rand Paul supporters are all white tea party racists somehow is going to sell people on the second amendment.

I'm not defending anyone who says they know for a fact whos right and wrong. I am just trying to defend people who are simply stating feelings and concerns they have socially about this case, and are being attacked as if they are dumbasses for simply having a unique perspective of the world they live in, and expressing that.