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It would be impossible

to smoke less.

Your diversionary tactics are amusing.


So he needs to smoke less "reef" and you're just a natural moron... Got it.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

You should be more clear

You should be more clear about your position. If you are trying to tell people pot is bad, but would never consider consider using government force to prevent someone from it's use, they you should say so. You might even get upvotes.

As is I'm sure you are getting downvoted because of the implication that you are a statist, not because you think pot is bad per se.

So simply:

Do you think pot is bad but the state has no business in the matter?

Or do you think you have the moral right to take a gun, go to your pot smoking neighbor, cage them at gunpoint, and if they resist, shoot them?

Good response...

however, you are thinking to much into the post. The post DOES NOT support what the crooked cop did and...The post DOES reply to a post that says it's just a plant. Marijuana is a drug in every sense of the word. That is my point.

Drug- A drug is a substance which may have medicinal, intoxicating, performance enhancing or other effects when taken or put into a human body .

My post is simple, pot is more than a miracle plant for a lot of people. For a lot of people it is trouble. That is all, good day sir.

Thank you, but it's still not

Thank you, but it's still not clear where you stand.

Again it's fine, even laudable, to educate people about the dangers of pot smoking. I don't use it and have no clue myself so it's good information for me if not personally relevant. If you want to help me tell me all about how beer is bad;p Though of course I already know.

The question is do you believe you have the moral authority to delegate to men with guns and badges the power to forcibly prevent or punish people who do this thing of which you disapprove, and ultimately shoot them if they resist?

Hopefully you just forgot to answer. If the answer is no you should say so, it would certainly make your cautionary message about pot better received.

Honestly, if the answer is yes you're wasting your time, no one here will give anyone with such wicked ideas any credence.

Don't disappear just yet

For which people does pot cause trouble?

Oh, your right...

Marijuana is the miracle drug that has never caused pain or problems to anyone. That's what your trying to say? That it is perfect, that no side effects exist?

Come on, get to the point.


I understand why you will not answer a simple question.

What is your point?

Marijuana does not make you

Marijuana does not make you hallucinate. It's a myth spread by health teachers without a clue and by TV and movies.

Paranoia...yes, but not to the point where a person will ever act on it and have a psychotic episode. Not everyone gets paranoid, and not every strain makes a person paranoid.

Increased appetite...so what? It's not like it creates a craving to go shoot up some heroin. It's fucking food. Another thing that isn't an absolute universal effect. Not all people get hungry, and not every strain makes you hungry.

Restlessness and excitement? Nope, the opposite.

Impaired coordination and motor ability? That will happen any time you starve your brain of oxygen.

Mood swings? Nope. That's just morons who think they need to act a stereotypical way that the pot culture acts. A person does not need to smoke. It's a mental addiction, not physical.

Loss of brain cells, lung issues, bronchitis, blood vessel blockage...no one is telling a person they have to smoke it. It can be vaporized, or even eaten.

The other crap is just that...crap. People with problems can use anything as a crutch. The drugs don't create problems, people with problems seek ways to self-destruct. People can be involved with drugs without being destroyed by them. Don't paint everyone with one brush. It's not a gateway drug, it's just at the bottom of drugs. People are the gateway to their own problems. Most people never move past weed.

I never claimed it wasn't a drug.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Love how your definition of symptoms....

becomes a universal truth. Many people have attested to hearing AUDIO hallucinations from smoking pot before. The others aren't crap, as just because YOU haven't had them happen DOES NOT mean they haven't happened to someone else. Perhaps, pot takes away your ability to use logic?

Then it was laced with

Then it was laced with something. Marijuana does not cause you to hallucinate. Not one bit. Not auditory, nor visually. I will also argue that people kind of have a voice in their head anyway. I will have conversations with myself in my head, especially while working on mechanical tasks.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Yes, yes, you are the voice for all humans...

so, what YOU say, is truth for all. How very un-libertarian that is.

Marijuana does not cause

Marijuana does not cause hallucinations. If a person hallucinates from it, it's laced with something. How hard is this for you to grasp? Drugs are a chemical with a set of parameters called side-effects. Claiming that marijuana causes hallucinations is right up there with the old '60s propaganda videos saying that male reefer heads go around jacking off on females.

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And some folks

have these problems with chocolate.

That's because Chocolate is a drug as well.

Chocolate contains caffeine which is more than just a plant as well. Just ask the 200 million Americans addicted to it.

So people can consume some

So people can consume some drugs (caffeine, alcohol, OTC stuff), but as soon as it crosses some arbitrary line made by societal opinion propped up by fantasy and lies, they need to be stopped with force?

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Caffeine, alcohol are all drugs. It will mess up your body. I haven't had caffeine in 20 years because of the addictive personality of it.

More than a plant is what I'm saying. Never did I mention the legality of it, I'm saying it's a drug.

No more straw-mans, guy.

What's your definition of a

What's your definition of a drug? Water is more of a drug than weed. Your body is addicted to it, and if you drink too much you can overdose. Neither of those things can be said for weed. It's non-addictive, and no one has never ODed on it, nor will anyone ever.

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"drugs" as straw man

"I haven't had caffeine in 20 years because of the addictive personality of it."

Twenty years clean from caffeine, and you still believe that it's not you but caffeine that suffers from an addictive personality.

That goes to show that drug use is perhaps actually overestimated as a source of confusion in the minds of humans.

Thank you

for enforcing my point.

Hey, you!

Cheech or is it Chong?

The only belief I am reinforcing is that it is more than a plant. Put down the bong sir, and reread.


Nothing that you have offered shows it to be more than a plant.



Great we both agree....

Pot is more than a plant it's a drug.

Good doing business with ya,

Linear thinking

The obvious went over your head.

So what if it can be abused

So what if it can be abused as a drug. That still doesn't mean it's more than a plant. A piece of stone is just a piece of stone, but as soon as someone throws it at someone, it could be called a weapon. Are all stones from that point forward a weapon? Could you make concrete out of hemp and then call your house some drug house?

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Half of those are lies

Where did you get that list? From your local DEA or doctor?

If half are lies then the other half....

are true. That's 50% more proof that pot is just a plant.

Ok, you got me

99% of them are lies. Who or where ever you got that info from, is full of lies. I've know many people who smoke marijuana, and they never feel any of those affects, short or long term. I know plenty of people who drink alcohol and feel some of those things, even sober people like yourself, but not pot smokers.


Nothing listed points to it being any more than a plant.