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So MSNBC thinks "Detroit has become the most libertarian city..."

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Let me see if I get this straight...

No police response for at least an hour, not enough government employees to harass you for taxes and keeping your law in order, or being up to code. Sounds like freedom to me.

He's trying to recreate the flawed Greece narative here.

Irresponsibility sure is fun, but eventually it leads to future pain...that's pretty much the definition of "irresponsibility": enjoying the present at the expense of the future.

When the irresponsibility finally puts you in a position to change and be responsible again (as inevitably will happen), IT SUCKS! It is SUPPOSED to SUCK! That's the whole point.

But when it sucks, it's not the "change to responsibility" that is causing the suck, it's the years of irresponsibility.

For Detroit (and Greece): Slashing of government services isn't CAUSING the turmoil...The years of irresponsible behavior that now requires slashing of services caused the turmoil.

Stopping heroin isn't the CAUSE of withdrawal symptoms.

WWHHHHAAATTTT!!!

PURE PROPAGANDA for certain! someone give me some phones numbers, This is an OUTRAGE!

His name is Edward Snowden

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Either pure propaganda or

Either pure propaganda or just simply clueless. The last thing the corporate interests want is a libertarian president in the White House. Gotta' start early....convince people this is what libertarianism looks like. We just have to work that much harder to convince others what causes this. It's really pretty simple. Spend more than what is coming in.....voila! It's kind of like losing weight. Eat more calories than you expend, gain weight, highly likely health problems begin, and leads to early death. We still have jobs leaving the country because of too many regulations and the Fed is still devaluing the currency through inflation so it's going to be impossible for any failing municipality to fix their own problems. It's like the caloric example....if you are sickly overweight and still being offered high calorie food and no opportunity to exercise, you're still going to have problems. If the people ever figure out exactly what is causing the sickness and fix it, it would empower the people. They think they can outsmart the people by using their propaganda tools but the people are smarter than they think. And when you have millions educating others, they can't stop that. It's a war of ideas; more and more, our ideas are making more sense to those who previously didn't understand. I'm saying it openly because I am seeing a lot of people listening now; ones who were not on this bandwagon a few short years ago. And it's growing everyday.

lmao he completely messes up

lmao he completely messes up when he starts saying the government needs to start spending again on programs, buy property etc.

His first point was that Detroit was 18billion in debt. What money would you do your programs with buddy?

We did bailouts before..

so why not do them again? That is some pretty messed up logic. Just because some idiots did the wrong thing before, doesn't mean it is a good idea.

Naw man...

you got it all wrong! You just gotta loosen up and smoke some of dis fed reserve crack... it's hella good!!! Just try it, you'll like it!!! Trust me ;)

Wow! It's just unreal how

Wow! It's just unreal how misleading that telepromter regurgitation is. A libertarian city wouldn't have 18 billion dollars of debt to start with. I hope some of the people watching this can see how disingenuous MSNBC is.

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

how about you just let the anarchists

in Detroit fix the city without fed blow jobs.

goodness...

msnbc is trying to make it sound bad that the residents of the city are going to have to ball up and fix it themselves. Oh ferk'n NO!!! That be craziness!!! You always gotta get someone else to do it for you!!!

It would be awesome if they cut out the middleman (government). If the government also absolves the tax requirements then it will be a win!

But I'll bet you these people will still have to pay taxes and fix the mess.

That's the beauty and strength of the free-market

It automatically fills in the wholes. If there is a demand, the market will fill it, one way or another.

Government going totally bankrupt all across America, while the people retain most of their wealth, could be a good thing for this country in the mid-long run.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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Like many here, they get Liberal confused with Libertarian.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Detroit may yet actually become the most libertarian major city

...in the US.

Now that the city government went bankrupt, if the Feds can't afford it, it will left to the hands of the free-market, by default.

THAT would really open the door for opportunity. Maybe, if the government stays out or still can't afford to run Detroit, there will simply be little to no government there. That would be wonderful!

Citizens could open carry & form militias to protect themselves, local private businesses could pop up and grow to pick up the slack left by departed government paid public services, and the top-down corruption would evaporate.

Sounds like a good model for the whole country.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Yeah, right.

I wouldn't be so naive to think TBTB would let that happen.

Yeah, I know...

They would never let it happen, but eventually they may not have a choice.

I agree though, not likely.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

WHAT!

How are the people of Detroit NOT responsible?

They either VOTED for the idiots or they FAILED to vote them out.

Is this idiot really advocating that state and local government just run up any kind of debt because the feds will always bail them out?

WOW...

Yep your right!

This is what happened when people vote for Nazi Republicans and Commi Democrats! This is what going to happen to All of of America if we keep voting for the 2 parties tyrants! This is coming to your town and mine next.

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Ari Melber is his name.

Ari Melber. Just pointing that out. Let's see how long this political denial lasts.

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this link

shows he was with Kerry for president

http://www.linkedin.com/in/arimelber

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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Your point being?

He's a Jew? Oh, well, guess we should round them all up then.

Collectivist prejudice, how libertarian of you.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Huh?

Such a far fetched assumption from my point. In fact, I have no idea where you got that from, but hey, if you want to run with it, all the more power to you.

Oh, and the point is that the clip did not reveal his full name. Some of us like to keep an eye on individual bias. Yes, key word, INDIVIDUAL bias.

If you realize the err and want to show remorse(I know, it wouldn't be very keyboard warrior-like to do so, but still), and I forget to check replies to this topic, then apology accepted.

So i guess the coward(s) who downvoted without reply

is all for prejudicial collectivism, and would rather scapegoat Jews and incite division rather than discuss the topic at hand.

Are my fellow dailypaulers going to realize these haters are not helping our movement? They are bad PR and their views are inconsistent with our ideals.

Really, you think it's by accident they promote 'Jews' to these spots?
Yet how often are real liberty fighting Jews like Aaron Russo, the JPFO, von Mises, Aaron Swarz, and individuals such as myself, promoted by the MSM & TPTB? NEVER!

Because TPTB employ Task-Master Jews, like Pharoah did, like Hitler did. Karl Marx (claimed he was a Jew) was a Task-Master traitor 'Jew', working for the atheist / Satanist Commie New World Order. He held no faith in G-d. He literally claimed that all Jews, the religion itself, must be wiped out, because Judaism is the root of most monotheist religions (Christianity, Islam), and therefore they represent the existence of G-D, which is a Power greater than the power of the State! The Commies can't have that.

That's why you see so many traitor 'Jews' in the lower rungs of power. They are Judas goats. But they are being used.

How many dumb sheeple of all races, creeds, nationalities and religions get played by the NWO / PTB? Like, most of them! Should we hate and blame all people?

The NWO wants you to blame the Jews. That is exactly what the Bible says will happen, too.

"For the sake of the remnant shall I Bless Israel."

Don't throw out the Baby with the bathwater!

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

He's advocating nothing but fixing Failed policy

with MORE OF THE SAME. Only BIGGER.

LMAO!

I have never seen nor heard of that connection before.

Ever.

Thanks for the laugh, MSNBC. Now do us all a favor and bomb your own buildings.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

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I prefer dignifying the prerogative of individual choice concerning public domain, while establishing a municipal Registry where governmental, civil and public sectors properly function as volitional vehicles of conscientious endowment

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So many points could be made against this dumbass.

For one, justifying bailing out Detroit by referencing all the other bailouts is one of the stupidest rationalizations I've heard in a while. It's probably more idiotic that the reasons they gave for the other bailouts. They need to remove morality and accountability from the dictionary because they obviously have no meaning anymore. Yes, you are responsible for damages done to your property by a hurricane when you make the decision to live near the coast. Yes, the people of Detroit are responsible for the actions of their local legislature for allowing such poor money management to take place and not verbally and politically stoning the idiot officials.

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.

Was that cable programing,

Or subliminal programming.

Séamusín

lol

Aside from his 'government can save us' rhetoric, it was amusing that he cannot pronounce 'libertarian' correctly.