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The Snowden Case - What You're Not Being Told

When the mainstream media shows you something with their right hand, watch what the left hand is doing.

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June 25,2013 5:26 minutes

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Remember the 2 most important

Remember the 2 most important priorities. Sound monetary system and non interventionist FP. Everything else falls in line after 1 and 2.

Notice how NONE of the

Notice how NONE of the previous US NATSEC whistleblowers have disputed or complained of the duplicity of Snowden's releases. They have all commended him and support the continued dissemination of these documents to date.

While the existence of such programs is to be assumed by anyone who has followed the progression and feasibility of expanding surveillance state operatus, nobody with a shred of credibility can hand wave away what has already been exposed via Snowden, not to speak of what additional releases are coming in the weeks and months to come.

Again, everyone saying that

Again, everyone saying that what he has exposed has been long "known" has only been long assumed, without any factual documentation or admittance by the USGov. The FISA ruling alone that Snowden leaked puts this horrible narrative of "nothing new" that you and others continue to spread into complete shambles. Add the fact that his documentation also proves beyond a doubt that NATSEC, specifically Clapper, has recently lied under oath to Congress and the American People.

I didn't want to believe that many DP users are either completely and willfully uninformed or just acting as damage control, but there's just too many threads and posts that clearly indicate one of these two scenarios must be in play that it's really depressing.

Personally

I am yet to see any hard proof that Snowdin' is legitimate. Everything he's revealed had been public knowledge for a long time.
While it's good to have the issues he's raised gather attention,
They are still in control of the narrative.
Greenwald, while ”good”, is still a Marxist.
Cloward-Piven.
Managed collapse.
WAHOR, right?

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Please explain how

Please explain how Greenwald's political affiliations pertain to or have effected his reporting on the Snowden documents to date.

AH....the Youtube stories

Never trust anything you see in a pieced together Youtube video. Especially don't trust it if it comes via an anonymous source with no track record for positive prognostication, nor one of telling the truth without embellishment.

Snowden is the MSM smokescreen. His leaks are the real story.

End of story.

Do you reckon??

Personally I think Snowden did what he thought was the right thing, but he and the "leaks" are controlled by the wrong people...people who have an Agenda of their own within you government.

Could you

elaborate. Who benefits from Snowden's disclosures and what agenda could it serve?

There seems to be

a media struggle going on at the moment. Whoever controls the news, controls the propaganda. Amelia Chilcott Fawcett, CEO of the Guardian was big in Stanly Morgans European division. The Gaurdian and salon.com are driving the Snowden news, and because of his "hero" status, picking up young viewers and readers.
Snowden, bless his cotton socks, hasn't revealed anything new, and nothing that many, many people didn't already know. What we don't know is who is "vetting" the leaks.
Is it Bruce Fien?...neocon and war monger, whore for Turkey and the UN. or is it CIA controlled Wikileaks?
This is the Agenda that it will serve.http://www.middletownca.com/UNDERSTANDING-AGENDA21.pdf
A One World Government controlled by the unknown, unseen, unelected war mongers of the UN.

He just wanted us to really know about it.

What if Edward Snowden just wanted the American people to know, the Federal Government built a massive secret spying apparatus in the shadows pointed at and used on us? What if that's the proven motivation? Could you accept it?

Is Snowden a distraction from

Is Snowden a distraction from what's going on in Syria?

I do not think he is. If anything he's helping Russia, Syria, and Iran shine a huge spotlight on what's going on in their own backyards.

After watching this video, I can't help but think to myself...

Is Snowden trying to prevent World War 3? Was that his real intention?

If you think about it, Ed Snowden gave Russia and China (Hong Kong) a serious PR makeover almost overnight. A lot of Americans have more respect for Russia and Putin than they do for Washington, D.C. and Obama.

Russia really likes Ed Snowden, and it shows. He's been there how long now? They have very good reasons to treat him well because of the information he holds. That information COULD prevent what the video above was talking about.

Did Snowden know about what was going on in Syria? Did he see or hear the plans for World War 3?

Did he deliberately give himself over to, "the enemy," to prevent war?

Ed Snowden has put Russia back on the political map. He has given Putin a voice that western media actually pays attention to, unlike before.

I think Putin now wants to use Snowden's information as a tool to prevent an attack on Syria or Iran.

Speculation, yes. True? I hope so.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

The media has been covering

The media has been covering the Snowden-the-fugitive story rather than the actual leaks themselves. That's your left hand, right hand game right there.

Stuffaduff...I am glad

...you pointed that out. Sure it becomes a sensational "fluff" story over-reported and covering up some of the atrocities that are happening. However, people are waking up and finding out the substance of the leaks.

Wish more would read:
"My understanding is that espionage means giving secret information to the enemy. Since Snowden shared information with the American people, his indictment for espionage could reveal (or confirm) that the government views you and me as the enemy. " Ron Paul.

Rand used much the same wording in saying "Snowden was simply coming forward and
telling the truth in saying your goverment was lying."

Of course most of the leaks were not news to leaders in other countries and is doing little damage in the elite camp ; however it is getting traction with the masses which is where it there needs to be outrage. Ron Paul would call it education.

To me that is the leak of the leaks to the masses. There are those in high places who probably have nightmares about the masses waking up....it will be ugly, but it will mean game's up.

Snowden was a Ron Paul follower. How many of us would have loved to do something really important? He was in a place to do just that and he did.

fonta

"My understanding is that espionage means

giving secret information to the enemy. Since Snowden shared information with the American people, his indictment for espionage could reveal (or confirm) that the government views you and me as the enemy. "

Ron Paul

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Thank God,

people are starting to see behind the Snowden Story smokescreen.

May I have your phone number and social security please?

Fun Song. Maybe I posted on wrong post though...

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listening now

I love Jill Scott. Great song. America knows the wolf is at the door.

Im sorry, i dont want to keep

Im sorry, i dont want to keep going off topic in talking about snowden, as i think its absolutely right that we should be aware of other things going on.....but

the way i see it, we dont have a whistleblower with proof on the corruption of this global war, not since manning, and that was not enough to have serious talks in finally stopping the wars.....i want it, but unless someone comes along with undeniable proof of the lies and corruption, i dont think the general public will care.......but......in my eyes, what we have now, with the nsa, we have two fine gentlemen with a set on their shoulder able to keep up with the best of them.......i dont see this as the final step to end nsa surveilance......i see this as the first step to changing EVERYTHING that is wrong, to prove that corruption IS possible in government, as the gateway to demolishing the, "well, they mean well" mentality from the masses, while in the same vain, granting their permission, because, if you dont speak out, thats what they'll take it as, permission.....thats why they are nervous of public opinion becoming louder then they'd like

.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between Snowden and Binney/Cline were that Binney/Cline just blew the whistle.. therefore there weren't any hard documents and without those documents, no cases could be filed in court because of a lack of "standing."

All goes back to state-secrets. How do you know if they're spying on YOU? Just because someone said so doesn't do anything in court.

Snowden had DOCUMENTED proof which he turned over. Which is why lawsuits were filed almost immediately. And that is what made him different.

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Let's forget these "Phoney Scandals",

and concentrate on what is really important, as Obama says. IMHO we can spotlight numerous topics at the same time We are being attacked from ALL sides. Those on The Daily Paul have a strategic view of all the issues and never miss a thing.

The Snowden/NSA issue is a clear, nonpartisan, choose a side, issue. We are ALL being spied upon, and NOBODY likes that.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

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This is the real deal.

Keep this fresh.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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9/11 Truth.

good info

But Snowden is still a hero.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

LittleWing's picture

Aspen Security Forum-Endless War on Terror / Surveillance

Shocking ‘Extermination’ Fantasies by the People Running America’s Empire on Full Display at Aspen Summit
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/shocking-exterminatio...

2013 Aspen Security Forum this July. A project of the Aspen Institute, the Security Forum brought together the key figures behind America’s vast national security state, from military chieftains like Mattis to embattled National Security Agency Chief General Keith Alexander to top FBI and CIA officials, along with the bookish functionaries attempting to establish legal groundwork for expanding the war on terror.

Partisan lines and ideological disagreements faded away inside the darkened conference hall, as a parade of American securitocrats from administrations both past and present appeared on stage to defend endless global warfare and total information awareness while uniting in a single voice of condemnation against a single whistleblower bunkered inside the waiting room of Moscow International Airport: Edward Snowden.

CNN sponsored the forum through a special new website called CNN Security Clearance, promoting the event through Twitter and specially commissioned op-eds from participating national security figures like former CIA director John McLaughlin.

Another forum sponsor was Academi, the private mercenary corporation formerly known as Blackwater. The Aspen Institute did not respond to my questions about whether accepting sponsorship from such an unsavory entity fit within its ethical guidelines.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/shocking-exterminatio...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

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Interesting name changes

"Another forum sponsor was Academi, the private mercenary corporation formerly known as Blackwater."

Blackwater --> Xe --> Academi

These criminals can keep trying to change their face, but their past actions betray them.

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Ed Snowden Hero

Why he is a hero with no quibbling
He stood up into the cross hairs of the Obama Assinination team.
He confirmed what portion of the evil was known to the world.
He revealed new crimes and the criminals.
He confirmed in THEIR OWN documents what crimes they are commiting.

The quibbling as in the video is the deception that the evil doers want you to fix upon.

The quibbling is a way to divert attention from the proved crimes by saying look we were doing these crimes and you (peons) already knew about it and did nothing.

As if we could do anything, voting doesn't help, the only thing we can do is withdraw our consent from the whole evil edifice.

Storm Cloud Gathering

is Anti-American pro-globalist fearmongering propeganda.

WHO is SCG??? Who are they Annomymos revised?

Fear mongering?

Truth is not fear mongering! Sorry to burst you bubble, but not everything is rainbows and lolli pops. When Ron Paul was predicting the recession back before it happened, did you call him a fear monger? If you are scared, just admit it, don't try and make yourself feel better by dismissing it as fear mongering.

The pot calling the kettle black

?

Boo!

Scared yet?

What?

Cut back on that medication and you might actually have a clear thought.