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DP Poll: Who Was Our Best President?

My choices to consider:

George Washington: "Observe good faith and justice towards all Nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. "

Thomas Jefferson: "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

James Madison: "Of all the enemies of true liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.......No nation can preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

Calvin Coolidge: "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration has been minding my own business."

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'farmers' is a bit of a misnomer. These were landed gentry.

Only people who owned property could vote at that time in most states if not all. And at that, only the Electors really voted for President, and those were people who were movers and shakers, well connected, landed, each having sway and power back home - after all, they were effectively appointed as Electors by their legislatures.

Adams stood down because he knew the people with the real power didn't want him there anymore. Additionally, the Army had finally been sent home for the most part and the few that remained weren't getting paid hardly because the country had little money. If he wanted to remain in power, after participating in setting up the election system in the first place, he would have needed a loyal army to back him - and he didn't have that. He was quite reviled during his tenure in office in general.

Adams was our first tyrant President who had no comprehension that heavy handed government would produce only another revolution.

The Alien and Sedition acts were pushed through on his insistence because he felt he didn't have the backing of the People or those who were truly in power and he wanted to "solve" his problem of having political enemies.

Adams was our second worst president in that respect, in my opinion, only Lincoln being worse.

Stephen Grover Cleveland

My favorite is Jefferson, but I think for the time he was in, and how he handled the job, I'm going with the Veto Master, Mr. Grover Cleveland. Here is some reading material for those of you who may not be familiar with his exploits. http://news.investors.com/management-leaders-in-success/0831...

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).


He is also Dr. Paul's favorite President.


Jefferson & Jackson

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

There were many....

The thing is, they were all ignored by the media (directed by the powers that be) and so they never had a chance to become president. I couldn't imagine how bad @$$ it would be to live in the United States if this was not the case.

UNDISPUTED: Andrew Jackson 1829-1837

Only President to take on the Central Bank
Only President to pay off the Federal Debt

Once a man point-blank fired 2 pistols at President Jackson, both misfired, President Andrew Jackson proceeded to beat the living $hit out of the would be assassin.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

I love Andrew Jackson

I would rank him in the Top 5 Presidents of all time.

Your points are exactly right. He killed the Central Bank; and kept us free from it for 100 years.

However... he DID kill a ton of Indians.


I find it so ironic that liberty lovers seem to love Andrew Jackson.

1. As leader in New Orleans during and after the war of 1812, he had NO QUALMS about declaring essentially martial law.

2. From my reading of his letters and biographies of Jackson, the only reason he really wanted to get rid of the bank was that HE did not have control of it.

3. Sorry, but the Cherokee affair and the killing of the indians you mentioned was not only racist, but utter cronyism and complete disrespect of private property (of the Indians).

But, with so little to be proud of, I guess it should come as no surprise he is liked here.

Not to mention he threatened

Not to mention he threatened to invade South Carolina for daring to nullify his tariffs, some great lover of liberty.

It was great that Jackson killed the bank, but as you correctly point out: it was nothing more than a pissing contest between him and Biddle and our side just happened to be on the winning tyrant's side. Jackson went through 3 different Secretary of the Treasury's to end the bank, because two resigned because it was unconstitutional for them to pull the Federal Government's money out of the bank without consulting Congress.

Even though Jackson was on our side on the bank, he helped set the precedent that Presidents can do whatever they want, the Constitution be damned.


Jefferson, during his first term only.

Edgar Morgan


George Washington

When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden – it is yellow- Tom Anderson writer patriot. 1910-2001

"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

By all standards...

MY choice is Ron Paul.
Even though he never officially held the office because he was prevented from doing so through mainstream media mass mind manipulation as well as party corruption and criminal activity.
Ron Paul has done more to restore our once great republic and return our country to it's original constitutional restrictions of government against some rather significant odds than anyone who has held the office through honest election...or not.
Ron Paul will always be MY president.


I concur.

All the others since 1892 have presided or an ever increasing debt.

Starting at $18.09 Silver Dollars per capita to four people together owed a penny in 1835. By 1892 $18 Silver Dollars per person was the Congressional Debt.

Today each owes an estimated 39 OzAu or 3365 Silver Dollars (Fiat$51,700). For 178 years Congress has proved that they are good for nothing but spending beyond their means.

Free includes debt-free!

Also, according to the

Also, according to the Professors at LibertyClassroom.com, the most libertarian President this country ever had was Martin Van Buren.

And I don't think it's wise to choose your favorite president based on their quotes, but on their actions. Jackson threatened to invade South Carolina during the Nullification crisis, which overwhelmingly cancels out his defeat of Biddle and the Bank in my opinion, not to mention his disastrous pet banks plan. Let us remember the Constitution defines treason as "levying war against the States", the sovereign States.

Yes, although the "Pet Bank" seems to me to be Biddle Propoganda

The Biidle's solvency was based on the Federal Bank Charter. They paid well to vilify everything Jackson did banking wise. Their ox was gored.

Libertyclassroom.com picks Martin van Buren. Time to google Marty.

Free includes debt-free!

Brion McClanahan refers to

Brion McClanahan refers to the pet banks plan as "disastrous" in his Constitutional History lecture on the Nullification Crisis.

What I know is none of the "Pet Banks" were Biddle owned.

And Biddle promised to crash the economy if Jackson ended the bank charter.

Hamilton, Calhoun, Morris and Biddle all favored the large national debt of the American System. Jackson paid down the debt in 1835 so each person owed $0.002, down from $18 Silver dollars per person in 1791.

I am bewildered. The Nullification Crisis was over by 1832, but the Pet Banks were put to use starting 1833.

Free includes debt-free!

Please excuse me, I misspoke.

Please excuse me, I misspoke. It was in the lecture on the Jackson Administration.

McClanahan says that the independent treasury worked well for years. The pet banks had too many political favors attached to the plan I think.

Yes, I read also read about the political favors.

However, the Specie Circular ordered that after August 15, 1836 the government refused to take anything but gold and silver specie in exchange for public lands.


"most of its consequences occurred during and were attributed to the Presidency of Martin van Buren. The devaluation of paper currency only increased with Jackson's proclamation."

Jackson forced a revaluation of un-backed paper currency. Van Buren enforced the use of Constitutional money. Bankrupting bankrupt banks is a good thing.

Free includes debt-free!

I still think Jackson, even

I still think Jackson, even though it was the right thing to do, set a dangerous precedent in the BUS crisis where Presidents can do whatever they want if they think it's the right thing to do, rather than consulting Congress.

Even Ron Paul says if he were President he wouldn't shut down the Fed tomorrow because it would do more harm than good, but rather he would just legalize competition in currencies, and the free market would take out the Fed.

Did Jackson suspect a parasite?

In February 1836, the Bank became a private corporation under Pennsylvania commonwealth law. It suspended payment in 1839 and was liquidated in 1841.

Without government support the Second Bank of the US failed in eleven years.

Free includes debt-free!

I think either William Henry

I think either William Henry Harrison or John Tyler. Harrison became sick almost directly after his inaugural address and died 100 days later, and didn't do anything. How nice it would be if more of our Presidents' term went like that.

Tyler then took the reigns, and didn't bow down to Harrison's cabinet, but he was a principled constitutionalist, vetoed the big government Whig legislation, and was banished from the Whig party because he followed his principles.

how about next we figure

our favorite back zits, or hangnails, or Nickelback songs?

Human Beings are easily seduced with that much authority. Even Jefferson, who was probably the most pro-liberty president rhetorically, turned out to be kind of knobbish in office.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

James Madison Is My Favorite President

James Madison

"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home."

"The stock-jobbers will become the pretorian band of the Government, at once its tool & its tyrant; bribed by its largesses, & overawing it by clamours & combinations."

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations; but, on a candid examination of history, we shall find that turbulence, violence, and abuse of power, by the majority trampling on the rights of the minority, have produced factions and commotions, which, in republics, have, more frequently than any other cause, produced despotism. If we go over the whole history of ancient and modern republics, we shall find their destruction to have generally resulted from those causes."

"Wherever the real power in a Government lies, there is the danger of oppression."

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Andrew Jackson

Because he survived is assignation attempt like a boss.
And he beat the bankers

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

I like Andrew Jackson too...

though he comes with a lot of baggage regarding native Americans.

He totally crushed the bankers!

He was the only president to pay down the deficit to zero!

Prior to being president, he decimated the red coats at New Orleans with his militia, a band of pirates, slaves, and native Americans!

He also attacked the British settlement in FL which was helping Native Americans attack the United States. As a result, he brought FL into the Union!

He's got a long list of serious accomplishments that never get discussed. The bankers hate him and use the Native American issue to totally demonize him.


The banksters hate(d) him.

Jefferson Davis

The question for you to decide is, “will you be slaves or will you be independent?” Will you transmit to your children the freedom and equality which your fathers transmitted to you or will you bow down in adoration before an idol baser than ever was worshipped by Eastern idolators? Nothing more is necessary than the mere statement of this issue. Whatever may be the personal sacrifices involved, I am sure that you will not shrink from them whenever the question comes before you.

"The Yankee is compelled to toil to make the world go around."
-Admiral Raphael Semmes, CSN

James Buchanan

For he rightly recognized that a war between the States was illegal and refused to start a war to attack the States that secceded.

Millard Fillmore!

Didn't hardly do a damn thing

May God save the country, for it is evident that the people will not.

Millard Fillmore