Is there room for occasional RP doubters (even though they believe in RP's issues) on this site?

The troll issue was blown out of proportion because of the debates over blimp fund raising and disappointment over the early primary results. I suspect that a number of people thought that Dr. Paul was going to do much better in Iowa and NH. When he didn't a few people started saying that the sky is falling, and that they were leaving the campaign etc. This seemed to cause a bunch of people (including myself once) to start becoming defensive to keep things positive on the sites so the campaign didn't collapse.

I think now we are much more realistic. Most of us now understand that its unlikely that the good doctor is going to get the nomination without some big swings (possible), so I expect that troll accusations will drop over time.

I have little doubt that there really are trolls around the Ron Paul boards (and the other candidates boards) but I think we are learning how to deal with this issue. This is something we need to figure out.

You get a real person on TV in a circus like that and that's what they look like. You have to be full of crap and worry about nothing about but how you are perceived, to look good in that environment. Look at the morons who succeed in Hollywood and Washington. Did you see the "I feel Pretty" you tube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q That's what I'm talking about. I for one am sick of those type of people being taken seriously. I want substance, and Dr Paul has it in spades.

its the message he wants to get across. If anything he want people to be aware of whats going on in america, and for us to stop it. That is Ron Paul's main goal, even if he doesnt win. Win or Not its the message of freedom he wants to get across. So even though things dont look like it going great, even though things don't seem well. Keep going, and never give up, never give up the message!!!!

Indeed, two weeks ago I became VERY despondent about not only the campaign, but any possible Paul presidency as well.

An executive has a "trustee" relationship that he accepts on behalf of ALL of the stakeholders in an organization.Thus, he cannot allow personal loyalties to cloud his judgment in regard to decisions about selecting appropriate managers working underneath him (note that this ALSO includes the opposite... not simply rejecting a good candidate simply because you have a good working relationship with them, like them personally, or have some external loyalty to or with them -- but even at that it is better to err on the side of caution).

BUT.... and it is a BIG but... this would be a reason to choose a candidate with Ron Paul's platform AND more extensive management experience. Absent that other person (and there is none in sight, not even on the horizon) -- it is NOT a reason to reject Ron Paul's candidacy.

The reason why is that our executive branch has "gone native" and taken over the reins of ALL THREE branches, and additionally, assumed and taken control away from the various States, as well as extensively usurped and destroyed nearly ALL of the rights of the people. The BEST way to reverse this trend is to put someone like Ron Paul in place -- someone with the intestinal fortitude to forgo the temptations of power and to reverse the nearly 100 year trend towards fascism. I can think of only one or two such men to ever inhabit the American Presidency, and while there may have been problems in their administrations (which, sadly is what history books focus on... a bit like our current news, always loving scandals), but it also does NOT lessen the substantial achievements they made in reversing very damaging trends.

Such men are RARE indeed.

That they are not PERFECT in every regard is to pick over nits.

Overall, Ron has done an excellent job as an "executive" in running his own medical practice, as well as choosing people to run his Congressional office (what other congressman, EVER, ran his office UNDERbudget?). That there were a few employees who caused problems (Rockwell) or left in a snit (Dondero) over the coarse of a 20+ year career is truly a remarkable accomplishment.

And while the evidence we have seen SO FAR in this campaign does NOT engender a lot of confidence in the campaign staff (how's THAT for an understatement?) -- we have not seen the whole campaign run its course, and there may yet be "tricks" and "trumps" hidden up the campaign sleeves ("Make fun, buddy...[hint... hint... While you can! Because there's a freight train coming and it's got your name printed on the cow-catcher!]"). It may have been necessary to have US think they are incompetent in order to more fully hoodwink, blindside and rout the other campaigns when time comes (one has to have some hope, no?)

In short... one can choose to have faith, and hope... and get down to work (go get some CommonSense my friend) -- OR one can become totally despondent, and go hide in a cave awaiting the end of all things.

I've been in that cave... and there is nothing there.

We've got a great set of organized supporters that execute better than any of the other candidates'. After doggedly focusing on execution for weeks, it can be frustrating for the group to see a post that doesn't directly affect getting RP elected.

We have to fight hard for each and every supporter. Campaigning can be very trying, and it takes a toll. Individuals are human and will become disenfranchised at times. We don't want disenfranchised supporters turn away from the effort. Because we have to fight so hard for each supporter, I believe that we would be wise to lend an ear to the disenfranchised from time to time.

Join the party.
The revolution is here!

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There is life at the end of the tunnel my friends!

If you have concerns, phrase them in the form of a question and submit them to the community.

WARNING: You will get a WIDE variety of answers, some of them may come off as a bit crazy at first. But there are plenty of "sane" people around who would be happy to answer any honest questions you may have.

Have confidence that the man will pick a good VP and surround himself with good people.

I don't think he would try this if he didn't think he had the resources to get the job done. The man doesn't like doing things you don't have the resources for.

But if you have honest questions that you think need some sort of sane public discourse, that is not negative.

Having questions is not negative.

negativity spreads.. you can think it but keep your pie hole shut soldier.

This is a war, there is no honor in the man / woman who backs down.

Who shows fear to the enemy.

Yes there is room for the ocasonal Ron Paul Doubter. But, don't spread your doubt.

Prov 7 list as one of the 7 worst sins. "he who spreads discontent among the brothers." It is a sin that "G-d" hates it is worse than adultery.

It is a vile evil. Spreading it makes it grow in you and plants it in another. It's like spreading aids intentionally.

Buck Up Soldier.

At the moment, I am suspicious of anything called "bank," but you were certainly gentle enough with your question.

I think the campaign headquarters is run by someone that is trusted that he turned it over to and is loyal to and I figure he thinks if that person cannot accomplish it, then no one can. Or that anyone else could be making worse mistakes. Then there is the certain truth that we are privileged to no information about what is really going on. Certainly the candidate does not have time to be actually running his campaign. He has a job and is handling it to the best of his ability. There are so many problems bigger than how the campaign is run that his head is probably totally swimming by now.

God bless him, he has his work cut out for him in so very many ways. The best thing we could do for him is do our job and let others do their job. Certainly the job I am doing is not without fault by any means. How about yours?

I seem to be stuttering here!!

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Ron Paul is not perfect but he is simply the best one running.

Allot of people worship RP as a god or somthing, and will flame you for beign honest. Just do what you think is right and be open to learning new things. I agree with RP on just about every thing, I can not say that about allot of his supporters.

No you are a real troll; but thank you for asking.

You cannot on this site dare to question the NHQ. If you do; you will a called a troll -- but now days -- they flag you pretty quick so your post goes away; usually within about five minutes.

I rank these flaggers as the real trolls -- on par with CFR folks.

You should go to another forum if you need to vent about the lack of leadership from NHQ, or offer constructive thoughts and ideas. This site is however a good place to see what is happening.

This site has been a real boost to volunteers -- if only their suggestions were followed.

After Feb 5th; the debate changes -- between staying in the race - which we cannot win for the Rep Nom -- or mount a fourth party effort -- it will be exciting again.