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A 95-year-old resident of a nursing home died early Saturday, hours after being shocked with a Taser

Police are waiting for an autopsy to determine the cause of death of a 95-year-old Park Forest nursing home resident who died several hours after a confrontation with officers, reports WBBM’s Mike Krauser.
Park Forest Police say in a statement they were called to a Victory Center nursing home at 101 Main Street to assist a private ambulance company with what they say was a combative 95-year-old male resident who was being involuntarily committed for medical treatment.
According to the statement, arriving officers were confronted by the man identified as John Warna who was threatening paramedics and staff with a metal cane and a two-foot long metal shoehorn. Police say he would not drop the items and instead produced a foot-long butcher knife.
Again police say he refused to comply with verbal commands to drop it and they used a Taser which was ineffective. Officers then used non-lethal beanbag rounds and the man dropped the weapon and was taken into custody. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/27/elderly-man-dead-afte...

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Just another Adolph Eichmann,

Just another Adolph Eichmann, "doing my job."

Malo Periculosam Libertatem Quam Quietum Servitium
On y soit qui mal y pense

What cowards.

They are so afraid of taking injury that they would taze a 95 year old man.

More filth. The "peace officers" need to weed out these "law enforcement" douche bags. This is really giving them a bad name.

We truly are living in the

We truly are living in the land of the dead. What's next, tasering a baby? Oh, that's right, they're doing that too. Beam me up Scotty, I am on the planet of the poptards.

ecorob's picture

This answers the question...

Are all police really THAT stupid, callous, uncaring?

Welcome to Nazi Germany.

Born in 1918, this man lived to see it all...and then die for it.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

how about this, if a person

how about this, if a person doesnt want to be forceavably forced to a location they did not choose, to a point of expressing their desire to defend themselves against the FORCERS.....how about those forces just go ahead and proceed to.....fuck off

Surely the cop didn't feel

Surely the cop didn't feel threatened against a 95 year old man???? What was his point in using such lethal force to break this man into submission? He's on hourly rate? or it's coffee break time already.

Missing the Point

The 95 year old man "was being involuntarily committed for medical treatment." His death is attributable to a system that forces an old man to submit to medical treatment he doesn't want. The cops are simply armed enforcers for a system that is seriously dysfunctional. Apparently not a single officer had the intelligence or respect for individual rights to tell the medical staff to respect the man's wishes. Therein lies the tragedy.

And dead men tell no tales.

Obey or die! So says the dictatorial tyrant.

Free includes debt-free!

Beanbag round... Duh.

A Taser uses your own muscles against you, the stronger you are the more effective it is. Someone with weak muscles, very low muscle mass or if they get shot in an area without many muscles isn't going to be effected by the Taser. If both probes don't attach there is no shock being delivered to the body.

OTOH the less muscle you have the more likely the beanbag projectile is going to damage your internal organs. Even CBS got it right. "Elderly Man Dies Hours After Being Shot By Police With Beanbag Rounds".

That's a big thumbs down for you because you shouldn't twist a story to make a better point.

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The beanbag killed him.

This is murder, in my book.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

So the cop was a dope.

He didn't shoot the taser at thigh area or somewhere where the probes would stick.
The moron probably tried to shoot him in the head.

I figured cops would be trained to use these properly.

May the flees off 1 hundred camels infest your armpits,,

Did they shot him or not Dip sh#t.

Yeah...

He didn't die from the Taser. That was your whole point and it was bogus. If you want to talk about unreasonable force then talk about it, don't blame the tool for something it didn't do.

So your argument is

That you are a medical examiner or you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Was the Man shot with a taser or not and did he die hours later? I am stating FACT , You are assuming things.

You can't twist your way out of this one

The man was not shot *only* with a Taser. He was also shot with a beanbag projectile. He almost certainly died from blunt force trauma. Everyone seems to understand this, except you...

If the Taser was going to effect him, it would of effected him when they shot him with it. Electricity does not linger in the human body.

bottomline

The title is factually correct.

There is more to the story, of course, and it is found in the article.

Ha ha ha ha,,

Your a putz and everyone knows it. With our own agenda, never posting anything of value and only playing the role of know it all. Nothing here changes the facts as they were reported. I am Factually correct. You are the spin doctor We can keep this up all day but really you are not worth the attention By Homer!

Taser ineffective?

Being tased sucks. I can't believe someone is immune to this, unless the cop who fired it missed.

Some pepper sprays suck more though, the pain lasts much longer.

Tasers

Should be banned imo.

donvino

They should be banned

They are available to civilians, require no government background checks , no government issued licence to carry and are effective through most light body armor that will stop a handgun bullet.

Not.

What about that guy...

who was tasered while standing in a puddle of water???

donvino

i think i know another

i think i know another entitity too who would love to be the only ones with weapons with longer range higher capacity and bigger variety

Some states require background checks.

Some states have banned them, RI for one.

I think jurisdiction on Tasers should remain in the states.
I don't support banning them. They are not really good offensive weapons at all.

A Mom Could Have Handled This Better

There are so many situations where authoritarianism does not work. Almost any experienced parent knows when it's better to ignore someone until they calm down and are ready to talk.

If his weapons were self-defensive, where was the emergency?

Authoritarians run-amok are what cases Waco situations, where the whole purpose is to get immediate obedience from someone who doesn't respect the "authority."

Even The Dog Whisperer would say they should go for a walk, first.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Lets see

Taser ineffective on 95 year old man, but highly effective on anyone else. Holding a cane with one hand A 2 ft shoe horn with the other. Would not drop either. But with his 3rd hand produces from thin air a 1 ft butcher knife!