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Brutal: Alan Grayson on NSA Surveillance Programs and Privacy

August 01, 2013 C-SPAN
Rep Alan Grayson minces no words... NO WONDER they shut down postponed his Congressional sub-committee hearing and teleconference with Greenwald.. it would have been 'on record'... non-stop tag teaming the hypocrisy.
Grayson comments on the 'sudden' preemption by Obama at 18:40 mark.


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He Proves My Point

Liberals with an understanding of economics become libertarian--too bad he can't get his goal of good wages by using force; if we could teach him that, he'd be a decent libertarian.

Same with Iran. Sanctions don't work--they cause blow-back; they are an act of war.

The only country that has proven it can't be trusted with nukes, is this one.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Stopped it at

the Iran BS. Said some nice things. Seemed staged. IMHO.
But whatever it takes. If he can be used to sway the drones then so be it. Not a big fan.

henry9's picture

I get... website not available

Was it just taken down or is it just my ISP?

Never mind. It is going again.

Alan Grayson on the GOP

Alan Grayson on the GOP Health Care Plan: "Don't Get Sick! And if You Do Get Sick, Die Quickly!"'


SteveMT's picture

For the 40th time, House votes to defund Obamacare.

With the vote nearly along party lines, Grayson voted with the minority of course. Two dems and repubs each crossed over with 21 not voting.



SteveMT's picture

Grayson is just a selective Constitutionalist, like the others.

Grayson defends the Benghazi attack as unstoppable, saying it was the Ambassador's fault, not the government's fault. Hog-wash! Look at the big picture, not just this one issue. Grayson will milk this issue for his own future political gain, like getting on the democrat ticket with Clinton, the former SoS witch who could have prevented the Benghazi attack, but did not.

Everyone is a selective

Everyone is a selective Constitutionalist. Even Ron Paul. After all, Ron Paul will go on and on about the 4th, 5th, and 10th amendments while completely ignoring the 14th and 16th amendments.

He's better than Grayson, IMO, but if you denounce every figure who isn't as good as Ron Paul, you are going to be left with just Ron Paul.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

What are you talking about,

What are you talking about, dude?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Ron Paul doesn't believe that

Ron Paul doesn't believe that the bill of rights applies to the States, per the 14th amendment. He doesn't believe in equal protection by that same amendment. He doesn't think that the feds can prevent the states from having segregation, or removing gun rights, etc.

Compare him to Judge Napolitano, who fully acknowledges the truth of the above things.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

SteveMT's picture

Ron Paul "completely ignores the 14th and 16th amendments?"

You are wrong about that. Don't think so.

Why not celebrate the

Why not celebrate the commonalities instead?

SteveMT's picture

Sorry about not having your enthusiasm about Grayson.

Blind faith and undeserved praise are why we are in our present situation. I understand that believing people are good on narrow issues has its merit, but that is all. Our historic problem has been that they actually stink when the microscope is removed. There is nothing to celebrate here without also applying consistency on others issues, IMO. Reality is where I'm at. Wishful thinking and hope will both be used until the end of time to further political ambitions. There is no greater disappointment then believing that the glass is half-full when in reality it is half-empty.

I'm certainly not an expert

on Grayson (this is the first time I've heard him speak out side of congress) but I'm pretty sure he's too conservative to be a Democrat these days. He's too smart and too independent.

I think he's a DINO!

Remember this one? I'll never forget it.
Who got the $500,000,000.00? Bernanke: I don't know.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

I'd take Grayson over the

I'd take Grayson over the witch Pelosi any day. I do wish he would walk back his support of Obamacare. Even a socialist single payer system would be more tolerable than this fascist mess.

Wow, some highlights: -Says

Wow, some highlights:
-Says now that 911 and bin Laden are in the past, the Gov should declassify ALL doc's it has on 911 immediately
-Talks about his amendment to demilitarize DHS
-Defends Manning, Snowden, and Wikileaks
-Credits Ron Paul for bringing a coalition together to Audit the Fed
-Calls out the bogus NSA claim that they have stopped ANY terror with these exposed programs
-Quotes Ben Franklin, Liberty for Security
-States that his oath is to defend the Constitution, not to protect Americans.

Yeah, that was awesome:

"Says now that 911 and bin Laden are in the past, the Gov should declassify ALL doc's it has on 911"

Re; Yeah, that was awesome

He almost implied that the 9/11 documents might disclose all sorts of inconvenient truths. I love the fact that he knows they belong to us, not the government. I'd support this guy over a typical conservative. He agrees in economic equality in a slightly different angle from your typical libertarian (he wants more laws and big government enforcement), but if you consider that the government has only selectively been defending the rule of law (ie - Holder deciding to NOT prosecute the banks), we can certainly work with him!



I don't agree with all his answers or feelings.

But he's mostly a great guy. I support Alan Grayson.

Put it this way, he'd be in

Put it this way, he'd be in my "dream team", might not be number 1, but hed be in it

In no particular order

Ron Paul
Justin Amash
Glenn Thomas Jacobs
Josh Tolley
Ben Swan
Pastor Dowell
Mark Dice
Adam Kokesh
Tom Woods

For the sake of getting all views accross and not just one particular flavour of liberty, that might limit the topics of discussion, im sure im missing a few and those not yet discovered......im sure my personal "best players" will change depending on the ongoing saga of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

You forgot the judge. A must

You forgot the judge. A must for that list.

ah crap, how could i forget

ah crap, how could i forget the judge,

the judge


similar to the way I feel about some (very few) others on the left like kucinich, and every once in a while Elizabeth warren. I wish they would have an epiphany about monetary policy and social programs but I guess you can't have it all.

To me, the moment that grayson really showed himself to be a genuine human being was this hearing on the bailouts.


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That was great.


Likewise agree :-)

Grayson speaks with sincerity, equally important to telling the truth and defending our rights.

"It's not left versus right, it's tyranny versus Liberty"

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

of course...

agreed. I cannot 'dismiss' the Benghazi attack as easily as he does at the 12:00 mark.
I do consider him an EFFECTIVE ally to the cause of liberty and dismantling of crony capitalism and the federal reserve.. see 22:37 mark.
Attacking the State Dept/CIA/MIplex surveillance programs and the de-militarization of DHS and domestic law enforcement is a BIG bonus to fellow house members like Amash et al.
A VERY important coalition has formed in Congress and is getting stronger.



I disagree...

with his economics but absolutely agree with him on defending our rights!!!

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul