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A Rebuke to Marco Rubio

In response to the July 31 Senate debate and vote concerning Rand Paul's Egyptian aid amendment (the three parts of Sen. Paul's floor speech can be viewed here, here, and here), I emailed my Republican Senator, Marco Rubio...

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Dear Senator Rubio,

As a constituent, and a local Republican Party official, I am disappointed in your July 31 vote to table Senator Rand Paul's attempt to cut off military aid to Egypt. I watched the floor debate with interest, and raise the following points:

1. Republicans must stand for the rule of law. If Federal law requires that military aid to Egypt be cut off in response to the recent coup, then that law must be obeyed now, not weeks, months, or years from now.

2. Republicans must stand for liberty. In light of Egypt's history over the past 35 years, the weaponry purchased by the funds given to the military junta will likely be used against those in Egypt who are bold enough to express their desire for freedom. It is inconsistent to espouse liberty at home while funding tyranny abroad.

3. Republicans must stand for fiscal restraint. Given our mounting national debt, and given the ongoing turmoil in Egypt, it makes little sense to borrow $1.5 billion from one potential adversary (China), only to send that money to another potential adversary (Egypt). It was always unwise and inappropriate to fund client-state dictatorships, and now it is unaffordable as well.

As I ponder the consecutive GOP losses in Presidential elections, I eagerly look forward to a return to conservative principles in 2016. I will remember votes on issues such as Egyptian military aid as I discuss with my fellow Republicans which Presidential candidate can best champion the principles of liberty, rule of law, and fiscal restraint.

Respectfully,

Andrew Samuel Jetton
Republican Precinct Committeeman
Precinct 216, DeLand, Volusia County

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In the aftermath of the vote, please call or write to your Senators (on the roll call, "Nay" is a pro-Paul vote); express thanks for a "Nay" and respectful disagreement toward a "Yea" (the goal is not to vent, but to influence the Senator's future behavior). Please post your letter or email here, so that others will be encouraged to contact their Senators. Rand Paul shrewdly forced a floor debate and vote on this issue, so let's not let this opportunity go to waste. Thank you, Liberty patriots.

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How can you give Feinstein

How can you give Feinstein any credibility since she has never voted pro liberty and lies all of the time?

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

Did you mean to ask a question of me, the author of the OP?

My post does not mention Senator Feinstein; it is addressed to (and expresses disappointment toward) Senator Rubio and discusses Senator Paul's Egypt amendment, and the principles that I think are in play.

I agree that Sen. Feinstein does not seem to be a pro-Liberty politician.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

Thanks for the heads up and sharing this well written letter

You have been missed here. I have written to Rubio before through Downsize DC, and all I have ever received is a 'canned' response. Often when I call, his voicemail is full. OTOH, I usually get a less canned 'tasting' response from my representative.

(Off- topic, but our car died, so we need both wisdom on what to do and a means to pay for what needs to be done... I didn't want to make this a post, but we need prayers.)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Good to hear from you, (((Libera_me)))!

I am sorry that I "dropped out" and left a discussion on another thread up in the air, but I have been preoccupied with personal problems, and just needed to take a break from DP for a time. Lord willing, I will start posting again on the Agape' Forum in the near future.

I see that our sister bear has not posted in about a month. I hope that she is ok.

I will keep you in my prayers. God bless, lady patriot.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

I understand, my hubby and I are

dealing with the car and work issues, so can identify with that. (I'm likely to be limiting time on DP as well, now that the school year is gearing back up) I hope bear is OK too, will check to see if I can contact somehow. Thank you for your prayers, we will be praying for problem situations to be resolved.

God's blessings to you, Gentleman Patriot!

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

My last letter to Rubio got me in a little hot water...



I am a constituent of Rubio also.
I shared the letter with my county GOP chairman.
He noted that using my GOP title was against the rules I agreed to.
I agreed to refrain and suffered no consequence as I think he agreed with the content.
In another county GOP I may have been given the boot!

Check the rules brother!
We can't risk losing any Liberty members!

Here is the letter: http://www.dailypaul.com/290802/todays-letter-to-sen-rubio

I am,
A Proud,
Ron/Rand RepubliCAN Committeeman!
"We Are Winning!"

Exercise Liberty!


America Rising.
The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

Thank you for alerting me, American Nomad!

Did your chairman cite the rule that was being violated? Is the rule statewide, or specific to your county? I ask because I had no inkling that it would be against party rules for me to identify myself as a party official when communicating with an elected officeholder (although I certainly see how a misrepresentation that I was speaking on behalf of my county party could be a rule violation).

Please expound on your understanding of the legalities, and thanks again for the warning.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

I have now received an "Interim Response" from Rubio's office...

... that has the feel of an auto-generated form letter. I will post any substantive reply on this thread.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

(((((((((((AJ)))))))))))

I have missed you! VERY HAPPY to see you on DP and greatly appreciate your taking the time to share the letter you wrote to Rubio. I agree with the poster Victoria about Rubio.

At the CA GOP Spring convention, it was pretty apparent Rove was thinking Runio was going to be the guy to fund, but he kinda fell flat here in CA.. and I think my challanging Rove, telling him that "The people were catching on and we like Rand, rather than Rubio".. He said he gave Rand $2.9 million, which was 1/10th of what ha had given Rubio.

The fact you said you received a auto generated reply is disheartening. I am NO fan of Feinstein, but I will say this about her to her credit, she does not give auto replues and for that alone, she is highly respected, even within the GOP, who auto reply means, "poor staff".

At our most recent committee meeting, where we have a frequent guest from another county, nice man, I consider him "the watcher" because we have a liberty committee and my open willingness to debate bothers him. We brought up the past election, and I said the GOP ran a terrible candiate, to which he defended, "She(Emken) was a great candidate!" And I replied, "No she wasn't. Her entire message was, "I'm not Diane Feinstein". So he says, "Well she's right! She's not Feinstein, Thank God, and she had a great platform." So I said, she didn't say much about her platform, she repeated in many ways that she is NOT Feinstein and it didn't inspire anyone to look up her platform. She was $7 million behind Feinstein in funding and to be honest, I think she's lucky Feinstein didn't debate her." Well he got mad at me. Wouldn't talk to me after that.

But what you are saying istrue.. we are not grooming candidates, we appear to be ready to merge with the Democratic Party, despite outcries. It's maddening. We are so heavily controlled by the Democrats and who can't get us into a global government UN Agenda fast enough. Seems the GOP is all about protecting that.

Anyways.. GOOD TO SEE YOU!! Hope to see more of you as it's nice to see someone who is actually doing something besides swooning over Greenwald and cheering Snowden.

Peace be with you and may God's mercy keep you strong and sound!

(((Granger))), the content of my OP...

... led me to exchange emails with another local party official, and we ended up discussing the purpose for which we became involved in the local GOP. I thought you might find what I said to be interesting. (Note: "REC" stands for "Republican Executive Committee," which is what a local county GOP organization is called in Florida.)

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Thank you for your feedback, Walt. Alan likewise did not think that I had broken any rule, and it is good to hear that you concur in that opinion.

On the matter of why we, as Precinct Committeemen, are elected, I see it somewhat more broadly. While we certainly are elected to get Republicans elected, suppose that there was a contested REC race that actually went to the ballot, and that (for simplicity) it was two men running for one spot. If one candidate was a Neoconservative, and the other a Liberty Conservative, and each promised that, if elected, he would seek to influence the local Party toward his particular position, wouldn't we expect that the winner would do what he promised? Would it be inappropriate for him to do so?

While I went door-to-door and did poll greeting last year to help get local Republicans elected (and I intend to do so again next year), I do not see myself as being in an "ideology free" position; rather, the primary reason I joined the REC was so that I could do my small part in moving our GOP toward Liberty.

I freely admit that I am far more interested in national, rather than local, issues, for the national issues are the ones that pose the basic questions that our party is currently struggling over: War, or peace? Security, or liberty? Secrecy, or transparency? Corporatism, or free enterprise? Fiat currency, or sound money? Unrestrained government, or Constitutional federalism?

I author REC resolutions for the same reason that I contact our Republican public officeholders: to influence people toward a more Liberty perspective (and, if I can tie the two together by letting our GOP Congressmen and Senator know that our REC passed a resolution promoting a position that we want them to support, so much the better).

To me, this is a very exciting time to be a Republican. In 2016, we will have a plausible opportunity to nominate, and elect, the most conservative, pro-Constitution President since the 1920's! In addition to all the good policy changes that could result, we will, by 2021 or 2022, if a President Paul is re-elected, see the Liberty Movement being the dominant faction in the national, state, and local GOP throughout the country.

Walt, I don't think that it is too much to ask to have one of our two major parties unapologetically standing for the principles enshrined in our founding documents. The American people deserve a real choice, and I want to do what I reasonably can to give them that choice.

God bless, and thanks again for your response.

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Do you have any thoughts on what I wrote, dear sister? God bless.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

I know committees have signing parties

T signing parties everyone shows up to the party and has each other sign their petition. But I really think going door to door is important, to introduce yourself, and get a feel for your district, who you represent. And, while this could be a good opportunity to fundraise for you committee, it's not a bad idea to get funds for yourself to get into the leadership circle.

In the leadership circle, I met many movers and shakers.. at one point I happened into a man who was a political consultant.. he had two aids there.. he was telling them what to do to control the floor. The floor had NO IDEA these guys were taking orders and giving the floor "ideas", what to do, where to go, how to do things..

And I was made offers, jet rides, all kinds of perks.. I refused.

So.. you think the floor is where it's at, GOOD LUCK!!!

(((((((((((((AJ))))))))))))))

Good luck with that - after the "interim" response you just

might be lucky, like me, and get a "thank you for your interest in animal rights" letter from Rubio.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

I cannot tell whether Senator Rubio is...

1. A young politician still trying to figure out where he stands on the issues (and therefore a potential Liberty Movement convert),

2. A cynical politician who is merely seeking his own self-interest (who therefore might shift to our side once we win the intra-party ideological debate), or

3. An ideological neoconservative in the mold of John McCain (who must be opposed and defeated in 2016).

The optimist in me wants to believe in the first possibility, but I don't know... What do you think?

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

I think he is an opportunist.

I think he is an opportunist. When he was voted in it was the same time as Rand Paul. I was talking to my Dad ( a long time Libertarian) about my excitement about Rand Paul...my Dad droned on about Rubio. I wondered what I was missing about Rubio because I never saw anything promising that was eminating from him but I decided to keep an open mind. Now that time has passed I have seen Rand make strides in his defense of principles and I like his voting record. I can't say the same for Rubio.