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I Knew There Was Something Wrong When ...

I knew there was something wrong when five U.S. presidents supported NAFTA. Ford, Carter, Bush Sr., Reagan and Clinton stood side by side endorsing yet another compromise of our nation's sovereignty and another move to cripple our economy.

I knew then that most of their supposed ideological differences, and their denunciations of each other, were orchestrated and just scripted rhetoric and posturing. It became apparent to me that the labels of Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Liberal, etc., are meaningless. In fact, that incident and those five puppets came to mind when I read Ron Paul's book, The Revolution: A Manifesto, particularly in Chapter One when he wrote about the illusion of choice.

When did you know that something was wrong?

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Unfortunately, took a little longer for me

married military and raising busy family and work. Assumed military husband was taking care of everything. I was not a political person.

I first heard of RP on the Mercola site 2007. Started searching the net and found a group in my state and DP in early 2008. Went on to fight the fight with local GOP including being elected as Finance Chair. Spent lots of time for RP, sign waving, going door to door, travel to other cities to meet him, then traveled to St Paul by train (13 long hours) to support him and the cause.

About this same time (2007) ordered from $1 DVD. When I watched the DVD on 911, I cried for my country. Then I read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" John Perkins. Cried again for my belief in Reagan. He tried and almost died, was never in control again.

For Waking Up!

Right on!

I Have To Add

That I am a huge fan of Ross Perot!

Edgar Morgan

Ross Perot

Perot wasn't some chump on the block but Clinton sure was.The biggest mistake Americans ever made in the 90's was not listening to Mr.Perot who was a great businessman and he knew what the country needed to stay on top.After Clinton,it's been a roller coaster ride to hell.

On Wings of Eagles - great book about Ross Perot

and his company in Iran.

Tells a lot about the man and his moral compass.

And I remember people laughing about him saying he was threatened. Sounds about par for the course now.

Ross Perot Revisited

That dynamic and indefatigable man really challenged the powers that be. He, in fact, paved the way for other outstanding patriots like Ron Paul.

Edgar Morgan

About Ross Perot

Ross Perot was and is an exceptional man. I heard that he was threatened by the powers that be and that's why he withdrew from the presidential race. He was a self-made billionaire and extremely intelligent. President Perot would have been awesome. Than you for your comments.

Edgar Morgan

Nafta was only the beginning

I'll never forget when Ross Perot said it would be the biggest downfall of the country in the early 90's and guess what,that's when it all started to unravel and the economy went sour until the easy credit bankers came along and sucked the life out of the country after they knew it was OVER and the jobs were long gone and almost no one could stay afloat.

I'm a relative newcomer: TSA patdowns and bodyscanners

When the TSA started running people through X-ray machines and randomly groping people, I couldn't understand why it was allowed in this country, or why both political parties supported this. I couldn't allow my children to fly on a plane any longer. It was the TSA issue alone that made me look at Ron Paul for president in 2012.

Before that, I was really a sheep. I'm ashamed to say I voted for the warmonger John McCain in the prior election. After reading Liberty Defined, I started to look at the world a different way. I was fortunate enough to shake Ron Paul's hand and thank him personally.

When I was 5 and read the Alberto series published by Chick


Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Jack Chick

I also read Chick's tracts and illustrated books. I still read his new tracts. Patriot, are you familiar with Kent Hovind and his creationism series? If not, please check it out when you have the time. Hovind was a high school science teacher before he answered God's call to expose the fallacies of evolution. Let me know if you're interested in that at emoran001@msn.com, or google Kent Hovind and order the videos. Thank you, patriot.

Edgar Morgan

Oh yes, our family loves and prays for Kent Hovind. He's been

speaking the truth about the new world order for many years.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Kent Hovind

Kent Hovind has been waking people up in so many ways. He is a gifted teacher nd truly a man of God.

Edgar Morgan

Kent Hovind

Kent is truly a good man. He has taught me so much!

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Sometime in 2006 or 2007...

before I ever heard about Dr. Paul.

It was during the 6-7 years after 9/11 that I was addicted to faux news.

One night, o'bully made this pregnant lady cry on his show. She was right, of course, and was stating her case but the tall, shiite-for-shinola brains o'bully, for no good reason, belittled her and made her cry.

Why, I asked? I even wrote him an email saying how callous he was to do that. I never looked at him the same way after that and then shortly after that I came to know Dr. Paul and the 9/11 truth movement and I have NEVER looked back.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.


The world didn't spontaneously break out into peace and harmony after the collapse of "the evil empire" and Ross Perot lost the presidential election to that fat whore from Arkansas.

From as soon as I could think for myself.

Thanks to my deeply Christian parents who were both in allied countries in Europe during WW2.
We were taught to recognise that the "Victor" writes the outcome, truth is buried, only bankers profit, and that the vast majority of politicians are akin to prostitutes. We learned that "collateral damage" is the vilest term on the planet.
"Flipping the coin" was a favorite dinner time conversation.


Thanks Jill!

Edgar Morgan

For me it was...

...partially on 9/11 and partially when we had the housing crash in around 2007/2008.

As an 8 year-old

I got kicked out of Sunday school...(how dare I ask questions that they couldn't answer...how dare I question the word of Authority!). Since then, I grew up very cynical and never trusted the TV, church or anyone that wasn't face-to-face with me. But, I never paid any attention to politics in any form...local or federal...it just didn't pertain to me and my little world.
I was working in an engineering office in the early 2000s and the anniversary of 9-11 came along, and I guess I had a long face that day, when one of the Partners laughed at me when I mentioned something about the terrorists and the towers!! He said, "You don't actually believe that load of crap, do you?!?" Now, this guy graduated at the top of his class at Carneigie-Mellon Engineering school, so he ain't stupid...I started looking into the 9-11 thing and quickly decided I had been duped...and that, once again, all politicians and TV folks were not to be trusted. After-all, the politicians are ALL lawyers, right? How do you know when a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving!
Then, in 2007, after complaining about having NO choices to vote for, a guy I barely knew urged me to Google "Ron Paul". I did...and for the first time in my life, I heard a politician MAKE SENSE!!! And, not surprisingly, he's NOT a lawyer!!! He's a common-sense physician.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Kicked out of Sunday school!!

Too cool :)


Actually...I was invited to leave and wasn't invited back. We were being told this far-fetched story about Bible stuff...and I simply asked how any of this could possibly be true...it all seemed preposterous (walking on water, water to wine, rising from the dead, etc.). I wanted an explanation! "BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO, THAT'S WHY!". Sorry...that ain't cuttin' it for me.
Anyway, since then I had never associated myself with anything religious again, until I started dating in college...my first love was Catholic and I went to mass just to appease. I wanted to stand and scream at all the brainwashed people!!! It drove me freakin' insane to listen to them brainlessly repeating all these pre-recorded verses without actually giving them any thought...over and over...for their entire lives. So, once again, I retracted from anything religious. Curing my college years I did meet a local preacher at the tennis courts who seemed really cool...like someone I could talk to without being "sold" something...and I wondered, perhaps there is more to life than what we're living...between the time I made an appointment with him and my actual appointment, he was arrested for stealing and adultery. OK...more church hypocracy.
It wasn't until 2007 that I saw the original version of "Zeitgeist' online that the whole "religion" thing clicked for me! I finally understood it for what it truly is: a control mechanism. NOW it all made sense to me...the memories all came flooding back and the puzzle pieces all came together to form the bigger picture. Since them, my view of the world has changed dramatically...the move "Matrix" has taken-on a new meaning for me.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

To bcfast

That was quite a journey of discovery! Thanks, I enjoyed reading your comment.

Edgar Morgan

I really can't tell you when I first knew something was wrong.

I stood up and called my teacher a liar in the first grade. (I happened to have been wrong that particular time)

By the 3rd grade I'd learned about the idea of college and decided it was bunk since the library offered education for free.

I read 'None Dare Call It Conspiracy' when I was 12 or so. When I tried to talk about the book with my family they attacked me. Was that the 'something's wrong?' moment?

Regardless of when 'it' started, it was a one-way street. There was absolutely no turning back.

Tweeting occasionally as himself @cudnoski on the twitter.

None Dare Call It Conspiracy

Gary Allen's monumental book, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, has awakened, and continues to awaken people everywhere. I hope that your comment will convince others of the significance of that book. Thanks.

Edgar Morgan

In Reagan's

1st term, I didn't see any of his promises come to fruition. Talking about ending abortion, never doing anything about it. Raising taxes after he ran against. Something wasn't right. Sensed it. Didn't vote for him the second time. Voted for David Bergland Libertarian. Really didn't know anything about Bergland at the time. But, didn't trust Reagan and couldn't stomach Mondale. But, still at the time I voted Republican across the rest of the board.
Woke up to that mistake when as someone previously mentioned NAFTA was a hot button issue and all the calls and pleading to congress not to vote for it went on deaf ears. Perot spoke logic, the others nixed everything to get it passed.
Never voted (R) again in a general election.

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

In all fairness to Regan, I think his intentions were good....

he just changed his tune after being shot. (Look at who was going to be president if he died) The only way NAFTA could pass was with Clinton as president and a Republican Congress. There was no way in hell the working class would have stood for a Republican President signing this piece of crap. There would have been riots. But, Bill Clinton bit his lower lip, promised "retraining" and the illusion of better paying, higher skilled jobs, and they ate it up like a possum eating sh...t. NAFTA is still the 3,000 pound gorilla which the MSM refuses to discuss.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Hey Ron

Many people don't realize that the Reagan Revolution never happened. Maybe it's possible that the attempt on his life shortly after coming into office stopped it before it started. Maybe, but the reality is that Reagan turned out to be no different than the rest. Thanks, Ron, for your comments.

Edgar Morgan

Ed! Great Post!

This is one of the most informative posts/threads I have ever read on the DP. Thank you so much for this one, Sir!

To 40to65

You're very welcome and thank you.

Edgar Morgan