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UPDATED: Chemtrail Truth campaign continues on DP...

"By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white trailing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted with aluminum, barium, lead, arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium, and silver. All of which attribute to a host of health problems including: neurological effects, heart damage, eyesight issues, reproduction failures, immune system damage, gastrointestinal disorders, damaged kidney, damaged liver, hormonal problems, and more."

"We’ll now we have 100% undeniable evidence that chemtrails exist. The video below is of Rosalind Peterson, the president of Agriculture Defence Coalition. In it she address the United Nations on chemtrails, geoengineering, and weather modification (HAARP)."

http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/holy-crap-heres-...


August 25th 2013 Global March Against Chemtrails And Geoengineering
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Please add videos of your own, pics, links, whatever you see...thank you.

Here is some very strong evidence of chemtrails:

Top Geo-Engineering expert admits cloud-seeding (chemtrails), explains the spraying is NOT costly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxFXfDrSBO0&feature=player_de...

Mainstream media reporting on chemtrails:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiWo-gaCivA&feature=player_de...

Former USAF Environmental Specialist admits truth on chemtrails:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijlY6qgnv-s&feature=player_de...

California Environmental analyst proves chemtrails are harmful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7Hk_i_fwI&feature=player_de...
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What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length)


http://youtu.be/jf0khstYDLA

The Chemtrail/Geo-Engineering Coverup Revealed.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhUUY_SI7s

Pub on Aug 2, 2013 | This documentary explores the topics of GeoEngineering, SRM (Solar Radiation Management), Weather Modification and "chemtrails", and introduces the public to new ways to protest against dangerous GeoEngineering initiatives by using the all new mobile app SkyderALERT. Put an end to the insanity.
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Who do you believe, me or your eyes?

Great interview with Dr. Russell Blaylock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y0zDsYWWpw What Chemtrails Do to Your Brain.

Excellent website: http://chemtrailsplanet.net/ has all the documents.

Debbie

You state that your link has all the documents

Which documents are you referring to? What do they prove? Can you paraphrase?

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Geo-Engineering isn't "conspiracy theory", it is published fact.

The undeniable, undisputed, openly admitted and discussed truth on geo-engineering and 'chemtrails' is all provided in the videos provided in this thread.

Here... David Keith (Harvard Professor) - In less than 5 min., here is PROOF of aluminum-laced 'chemtrails' and geo-engineering being openly discussed, and admitted as being absolutely real, and cheaply implementable... with human consequences discussed and referred to as "Not really a moral hazard, more like free-riding on our grandkids".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nmG...

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For you Naysayers.....

sceptics, and deniers. Please do a thorough investigation. Do it for yourself & Loved Ones. If you can or just want to deny what you can see, there's really very little hope.

Here's a start:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=chemtrails&hl=en&qscrl=1&rlz=...

Similar Issue:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=haarp+clouds&rlz=1T4MXGB_enCA...

Good Initiative, Poor Judgement

You are completely wrong.

Contrailscience.com debunks all of the links you posted.

Redeem yourself and post something worthwhile.

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Nice post

I like when a common sense non crazy site link is posted.

I've seen pictures of the spraying rigs on planes (dedicated), I've seen the admissions from our government that they sprayed here or there, but 99%+ of all those trails in the sky are just contrails.

Thank you.

Blah.

Right on

Thanks Charles, I'm glad you found the link useful. I wish the OP would have a look at it, along with everyone who up voted this article.

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You are welcome.

I sent it off to some drugged out acquaintances that believe anything, but especially chem-trails.

Maybe they will have a moment of lack of paranoia and actually read something. Too bad it's not a 10 minute video with spooky music, they seem to like those.

Charles.

Blah.

You provide a link with no premise

Its obvious. if you are paying attention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az8v54cwWTg

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

Ah yes,

What does your link prove? That stupid uneducated people jump to conclusions to explain things they don't understand? Yes, that is very obvious.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

My "guess" is far from uneducated

I am a scientist and amateur stargazer. I've been paying attention to the sky for most of my life. Only recently - over the last few years - have there been planes consistently leaving extremely long and persistent trails behind them. They are not run-of-the mill vapor trails, and unlike typical vapor trails, they consistently result in cloud cover.

Did you read the article I posted above?

dwalters

You are a scientist? Is that right? What type? What type of scientific studies or evidence can you provide other than some article in rolling stone?

You are joking right? Somehow looking up at the sky for most of your life has made you an expert in atmospheric meteorology.

You are right about persistent contrails being more common these days.

Have you ever considered that as the number of flights increase, the number of contrails might also increase?

I checked out your link, now check out mine.

http://contrailscience.com/30-years-of-airline-travel/

Go back to the laboratory and let me know what you find.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Your ignorance will fail you

"Persistent contrails" have already been investigated by NASA and thoroughly documented.

The geoengineers are on record stating explicitly that they are actively spraying and describe the programs in detail. People who worked inside Bectel on the chemtrail programs have already come out and leaked pictures of the planes spraying mechanisms. Soil changes have been logged, documented and correlated. GE's internal legal documents have already been exposed that reveal their decision that due to liability concerns for chemtrailing, the chemtrailing must be done by the US military.

Much much more has already been exposed but the ignorance combined with arrogance will never allow you to find truth.

Be arrogant if you want and defend this nightmare. In the meantime those of us aware will tack chemtrails on the list of war crimes being committed by the tyrannical psychopaths. We will not be waiting for the fools to get their head out of ass. That is not a requirement for competent men.

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

I'm a physical chemist

The question is not the number of contrails. The question is the nature of the "contrails."

If a person is observant, they will see aircraft flying through the air frequently throughout the day. This is normal. However, not all of them seem to have destination points different from that of their departure - unlike planes transporting goods or people from one place to another. It is those planes that tend to be leaving the extremely persistent trails - often in regular patterns - while contrails from other aircraft dissipate at quick rates. Throughout the day, those trails - now dubbed chemtrails - develop into cloud cover.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make these observations and form a reasonable hypothesis. With 99% certainty, someone is intentionally generating cloud cover. Speculation can begin after that, but the writing on the wall says that it's an attempt to mitigate global warming.

My primary concern is the soil. If they are dumping alumina, for instance, the soil will tend to become more basic over time. This would have a direct impact on flora.

Personally, I garden, enjoy hiking, golfing, and being outside in general. It's not in the best interest of Man to inflict negligent damage upon the environment in the name of trying to save it. It's akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I don't defer the formulation of my opinion to others - especially on issues like this. You likely won't find articles on this topic in academic journals for the simple fact that today's scientists largely depend on funding from the government. They write grants. They spend hours and hours of their time writing grants. It wouldn't be in their economic interests to pursue research that may bite the hand that feeds them. They would never get funded.

On the issue of chemtrails, all one has to do is pay attention to the sky to know that something is going on.

They lost me when they said that alumina was not hygroscopic

If one dehydroxylates aluminum hydroxide, the resulting alumina is very hygroscopic. It's used as a desiccant and is sold by the name, activated alumina.

That was one particular commentor

He was corrected and recognized his mistake.

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If you are a physical chemist then you won't have any trouble

Understanding this study.

THE EFFECTS OF AMBIENT TEMPERATURE AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY ON PARTICLE FORMATION IN THE JET REGIME OF COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFTS:A MODELLING STUDY

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=qO7jUsyz...

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I guess you never made it to the Conclusions section of the

article:

A comparison of the particle diameters at the end of the jet regime (z = 1500m) shows that these diameters decrease with increasing ambient temperature for any of the H2O vapour pressures chosen. Moreover, cut-off temperatures may be defined beyond which freezing of the H2O/H2SO4 surface coverage does not occur and hence the particles remain small. The diameters of the homogenously nucleated H2O/H2SO4 droplets are throughout below 3.5 nm and no dramatic impact of the ambient H2O partial pressure on their diameters could be found. These small diameters are an immediate consequence of the assumption [that initial SO3 concentrations were assumed to be zero] at the nozzle exit and, via the relatively low H2SO4 level in the entire jet regime, of the low nucleation and growth rates of sulphate aerosols. For these reasons, these aerosols cannot act as cloud condensation nuclei.

[emphasis added]

Besides, what this article basically leads to is that if one increases the fuel sulfur content and artificially reduces the engine combustion efficiency - thereby creating more soot - that one may be able to generate clouds - hardly an argument against my previous statements.

I'm beginning to doubt you are a chemist

"A comparison of the particle diameters at the end of the jet regime (z = 1500m) shows that these diameters decrease with increasing ambient temperature for any of the H2O vapour pressures chosen."

Yes. Exactly. Temperature plays a factor in the development of contrails.

And guess what else, sulphates are the most commonly used aerosols in geoengineering. Your study states "these aerosols cannot act as cloud condensation nuclei."

Let me break it down for you, this means that the Sulphur used for geoengineering does not cause contrails.

Other than that, the rest is immaterial because they were using Sulphur versus aluminum and barium which you claim are being used.

So let's have a look at barium:

Here is the chemical equation for barium oxide reacting with water:
BaO (s) + 2 HOH (l) ---> Ba(OH)2

So, one mole of barium oxide will react with one mole of water to produce one mole of barium hydroxide.

The molecular weight of water is 18 grams/ mole.
The molecular weight of barium oxide is 153 grams/mole.

Water weighs 3780 grams/gallon, so 43,450,000 gallons of water weighs
43,450,000 x 3780 gm/gal. = 164,241,000,000 grams

164,241,000,000 grams / 18 gm./mole = 912,450,000 moless

So, 912,450,000 moles of water will react with 912,450,000 moles of barium oxide.

How much does 912,450,000 moles of barium oxide weigh?

912,450,000 moles of barium oxide x 1/153 grams/mole = 5,9637,254 grams

Converting grams to pounds:
5,9637,254 grams/ 3780 = 131,649 pounds

So, reacting 2 & 1/2 inches of rain over one square mile requires 131,649 pounds of barium oxide.

As for Aluminum:

Molar mass of Al2O3 102grams (slight rounding of figures: Al 26.98 to 27)
Molar mass of H2O 16grams
102 grams of Al2O3 needed for 48 grams of water.

So they still need 102 tons of Al2O3 per 48 tons of water for just 150 tons of aluminium hydroxide

So, yeah they can release aerosols and it can have an impact on the weather but it is very minimal at the least.

Google "geoengineering causes drought."

Did you look at the links I provided?

Can you refute any of my points?

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The study concluded that based upon a model

which included fuel composition and atmospheric conditions, particulates formed from the adsorption of hygroscopic sulfuric acid molecules to the surface of soot particles which, then, adsorb water molecules (since the soot itself is hydrophobic to begin with) and finally form droplets, do not grow to sufficient diameters to result in cloud nucleation.

Certainly, sulphates are of interest to those studying geo-engineering. However, sulphates are salts, and the cation can have significant impacts on how the aerosol affects the environment.

I'm certainly a chemist. Here's some work where I performed some of the single molecule spectroscopy involved in the study early in my time at graduate school:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nn203272p

What about Hydrocarbons?

I have questions about those.
rumor has it, that they are prevalent throughout the cosmos..
if that is true.. why are they special here?
specifically titan. (a moon of Saturn) it has more "organic" compounds on it's surface.. than we have here.
if that is true.

very nice to have a chemist aboard the ark.

uh... gfys... how's that for "worthwhile"?

Why don't you post something worthwhile to you and ignore my thread if you don't like it?

Contrailscience contradicts NOTHING in the videos...

You shills are disgusting.

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You should look up

Owning the Weather in 2025. It is an Air Force Publication that explains various ways to manipulate the weather.

You are conflating ideas.

Contrails are real.
Geo Engineering is real.

Is the exhaust from aircraft technically a chemical trail? Yes.

Is our government intentionally spraying chemicals as a form of population control? No!

If you really believe the government is spraying you with chemicals why haven't you shot down any aircraft?

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Nice spin job. Thanks for brining up "Owning the Weather 2025"

Because that 'splains it all.

Yes, contrails exist. Contrails are contrails. Thanks for the kindie-garden class.

Chemtrails are not contrails. Contrails are water vapor, and usually disperse within seconds.
Chemtrails are usually aluminum or other metallic particulates, spread into the air by being dumped or sprayed out of the plane.
Chemtrails will usually linger around for hours and will quickly spread out wider and wider. They eventually come together to cover the sky in a dirty haze, in the 'chemtrail' operations. These operations can be seen, and the effects documented in real-time by the naked-eye all across America. Some days are particularly worse than others.

Weather manipulation, anti-radar, reversal or reduction of 'global-warming' or solar radiation, poisoning of air/water/soil/food as part of de-population, or to control the food supply, etc., etc...

I don't know why exactly they are doing it. Probably all of the above. Any of them would be more than reason enough for any military in history to want to get it's hands all over it, and test it, and test it some more. Then some one wants to implement it, and some one else agrees. That's how it works. That's how we get "Owning the Weather by 2025".

I rest my case.

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You rest your case?

Good! I bet folks are tired of hearing your nonsense. If you ever care to talk about the science behind contrails I will be here to educate and enlighten you. Hopefully one day you will realize how ridiculous you sound.

Best!

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Owning Weather 2025 is evidence supporting my points, not yours

So who sounds ridiculous?

Nice try pal, but the cat is long since out-of-the-bag.

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You claim that it supports your points

What is Your Point? Can you show me how or where this document supports it?

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