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Forget lavabit .. here comes startmail...

already there is startpage and ixquick for those that care about privacy search and soon come startmail https://beta.startmail.com/. Hope at the end of the tunnel.

No reason to ever use google and soon no reason to use things like yahoo or google mail.


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If startmail is based in the

If startmail is based in the USA, they won't last long.

I signed up...

They say company and servers are in the Netherlands.
Their search engine also allows you to search 9166006 (google) anonymously, with no cookies or IP record (as a proxy). Get 9166006 without the goo.

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But ... I'm not doing anything wrong!

I am a longtime subscriber here and donated to Ron's '08 and '12 campaigns.

Other than those minor terroristic insinuations, I'm really very patriotic ... really, I swear!

You Used a Bad Word. The NSA will come for you now.

That was funny.

You know, of all the words you used I bet the word "patriotic" is probably the one that the NSA hates the most.

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"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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Thank you for the pointers.

Dropped FB a year ago I think. I'll be out of gmail for good soon, as well.

No biggie. I have like, what? 20 30 or so contacts only to update individually.

That might send a clue to my 250+ handle-sized Linkedin network, though.


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

No Stems No Seeds...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need....

10 points to anyone that can complete this phrase.

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What about GMX?

they don't seem to have a record of giving records over and ask for very little information to start an account.

I prefer doing business

with people who have an established record of non-compliance to tyranny.

No PRISM. No Surveillance. No Government Back Doors.

"No PRISM. No Surveillance. No Government Back Doors. You Have our Word on it."

The Washington Post and The Guardian have revealed a US government mass Internet surveillance program code-named "PRISM". They report that the NSA and the FBI have been tapping directly into the servers of nine US service providers, including Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Yahoo, YouTube, AOL and Skype, and began this surveillance program at least seven years ago. (clarifying slides)

These revelations are shaking up an international debate.

StartPage has always been very outspoken when it comes to protecting people's Privacy and civil liberties. So it won't surprise you that we are a strong opponent of overreaching, unaccountable spy programs like PRISM. In the past, even government surveillance programs that were begun with good intentions have become tools for abuse, for example tracking civil rights and anti-war protesters.

Programs like PRISM undermine our Privacy, disrupt faith in governments, and are a danger to the free Internet.

StartPage and its sister search engine Ixquick have in their 14-year history never provided a single byte of user data to the US government, or any other government or agency. Not under PRISM, nor under any other program in the US, nor under any program anywhere in the world.


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Could you list those

plz...I need that list..

securenym.net countermail.com


there are others. those are the best ones i know of.


what country securum is hosted but
conntermail is from my country Sweden, I would not say that is any better than USA, since we are just a puppet state of you.
Usa say jump, Sweden jumps.. so no better really..

Shouldn't consider any company

that is based in the US, or has overwhelming financial interests in the US, to protect your privacy.

What kind of news/TV can you get there?

My computer was being watched in ECU

I bet the same could be said for anything in Europe

or australia, nz etc. However Albrech makes a good case and it sure must be better than google, microsoft. Nothing could be worse than that.

If you have any alternatives free from corruption in Asia or Africa or South America, let me know.

I've been waiting so long for

I've been waiting so long for this to come out, especially after hearing Dr. Katherine Albrecht going over it way back when on Alex Jones show, and she was just on again recently explaining the delay was due to the recent NSA revelations. She was saying how even if they were able to catch the stream of data, it would take a supercomputer about 2 years to decode it. Go startmail!


she is obviously an expert about what secret spy supercomputers can and can not do.