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Freemasons, I'm joining. Well, thinking about it. Your thoughts?

As simple as the title, I've been skeptical, and I've studied intensely for over a week on the matter. I think I want to be a part of the group that started the Boston Tea Party, had a large number of generals including George Washington during the Revolutionary War be Masons, as well as helping Gallieao against the church in spreading truth. That's a good track record. Plus, 9 signers of the Declaration of Independence, several signers of the Constitution and 14, I think, presidents of the U.S.

Why not be a member when their history lines up so well with what I believe in, based on things like I mentioned above.

There are obviously the occult symbols, so on, so forth, that I think are misunderstood, like much of libertarianism.

Your thoughts oh powerful Daily Paul?

Sincerely,

PL

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Freemasonry

is a cult..

As far as I know, you have to

As far as I know, you have to be invited to join by someone who is already a member. Have you?

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I have been

and of course i turned it down. Ever read about curious george?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
- Ron Paul

Well apparently not than. My

Well apparently not than. My brother and his friend went to a masonry temple though and asked how you join and they were told you had to know someone.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

You have to be recommended

It's not hard to GET to know someone either. I didn't. I didn't know a single soul in my lodge the first day I walked in. I was going through some pretty rough times then and needed someone to talk to. I walked in and introduced myself to a group of old veterans sitting around drinking coffee. One thing led to the next..

Wrong. You just have to ask,

Wrong. You just have to ask, be of 21 years of age and believe in a supreme being. That is it..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Opposite.

You have to ask to join.

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There is no degree above 3rd

Freemasonry has only three degrees. Anything above that comes from within appendant bodies whose membership is only for masons but who are not directly connected to Freemasonry.

These other organizations are really just creations of the 19th century. Their rituals are additional, and while I hear they contain wisdoms they are not really masonry.

Any claims about 3x degree have nothing to do with Freemasonry. The Scottish Rite has its own prerogatives I'm sure.

As for real Freemasonry, I can say that the organization has been nothing but positive for me as I attempt to improve my character and habits.

If you will do what you can, you can do what you will.

I'm not sure about that

Some of those degrees were conferred by regular lodges prior to 1813. When the Ancients and the Moderns came together to form the United Grand Lodge of England the ritual was standardized. If I recall correctly it only included the initiation and the master mason degrees. The 2nd degree was a later innovation.

That sounds like ancient, 'operative' Masonry... ...?

Are you a York Rite Mason?

From the research I have done, and I know several Masons, there are 10 Degrees in one Rite, and 33 in another... I also hear there are even more degrees, or lessons one can learn, and there are titles given to those who accomplish these...

I understand that in ancient operative Masonry there were really only 3 degrees / passwords. But there are clearly more than that today, according to other Masons. Is that all bs?

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interesting view

you are right that freemasonry has only 3 degrees, but to say that the scottish rite has nothing to do with freemasonry? In germany we say that the additional degrees in the scottish rite or elsewhere can give you depper inside of the first three degrees. but to become a real mastermason, scottish rite, york rite or anything else is not necessary. three is all it takes ;)

I'm not a Freemason...

...but I've known many and know well what they are about. I know where they came from, and why they keep secrets. They are not a cult, but they are certainly part of a larger organization that doesn't officially exist. They are much older than they offically claim. Most of the goofy hand and signal secrets are a test, to make sure that you can keep real secrets. Yes, they have real secrets worth keeping. The modern version of the Freemasons are mostly a good-old-boy club, but the organization that founded the Republic is still in there. They will never answer a question in the affirmative, but they can tell you when you are way off base. This is how I came to know what they are, using negative affirmation to narrow down my theories. I will not give out their secrets either; but I will say that they are good secrets that should be kept, and that they will come out at the right time.

Recommended reading... The Book of Enoch, The Wisdom of Solomon, Bel and the Dragon. First two only survive due to the Ethiopean Church, last is part of Catholic bible but not present in King James Version or derivitives.

Once your done reading, consider their choice of name. "Free Masons". Do whatever you feel you are called to do.

EDIT: I will say this, Catholics have their own branch of this organization, it's called 'Opus Dei' (daily work). These are not the only two branches. Look at this group also.

With all due respect to the "good" masons

who are not quite in the know yet about what they have joined... child molesters are "free and accepted" as well, until people find out their true intentions. The name means nothing. Such as Fox news being "fair and balanced". Come on now.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
- Ron Paul

DO NOT!

Freemasonry is a cult. It's a front organization that only the highest level initiates understand fully. Research Albert Pike and Freemasonry. Look into his writings. I've had family involved and read their doctrine. What they tell people they are and what they really are is very different. If you are going to join then at least go in with your eyes open. Keep in mind that once you are in you are in for life. You don't leave the Masons...ever. You might also want to know that Freemasonry will bind your family as well. It won't be only you it affects. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/32nd_degree_r...

you are not in

for life. a brother in my lodge just quit because he had no time for the lodge. nobody gets shot if they want to leave. most stuff about albert pike on the internet is pure fantasy. if you want to know what he wrote i'd suggest to read his original old books, not what other said about him. you are right, the families are somehow affected, we invite them to christmas parties etc...

I have read up on him.

As I said I had family that was involved...heavily. I've read their books. Sure you CAN leave but you are never out. If you do not renounce your involvement they consider you one of them. I've seen the havoc and the curses that have played out in the lives of their families. Secret societies always have a dark side.

Do whatever you want, as long

Do whatever you want, as long as you don't harm others.

As long as you keep believing in liberty. What does it matter?

Do the organization honor by your presence.

Masonry opens doors

If I was a mason, I'd sit at the back and not get in anyone's way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bHBthJN9w

Nothing more than a carrot on a string.

Masonry is great for building sturdy edifices, but Carpentry takes real skill. You'd be better off joining the army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UVD-UyZ6qw
grant

I have heard these words before.

"... men who believe in self-improvement and charity to their fellow creatures." I have heard these words before by other men who claimed the same thing.

All organizations have some corruption in them. We see it in the church, the government, and other organizations. It might not have corruption from the beginning, but at time goes on and other people come into the picture; it happens.

The real question is what will do if you see this corruption, will let it go or will you risk yourself to do something about it? Even if they are corrupt, we always need good people to hold back the tide just a bit longer. That is my opinion on things.

Huey Lewis

Said, 'its hip to be square'

donvino

Be positive, make a difference, get involved!

Be positive, make a difference, get involved!

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First of all

you just cant "Join". It's a club you must be invited and accepted. My grand father wanted to join and they wouldn't let him so he got drunk one night and went and shot at their building with a 12gague back in the 70s. ahahahahah

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

Yeah! If they learn you post on the DP, you'll be blackballed

That's right! And if they learn you post on the Daily Paul, your fanny will be blackballed in like 8 seconds!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

quit thinking about it

and the answer will come to you

Question for (a) FreeMason(s)...

I asked this question below to another self described FreeMason, after a few comments he had made.... (See/scroll below on this thread to reference)

"Since your fraternity is so good, and all they want to do is spread light, truth, and good... Why not teach people? Go public.

Why not let all the world's people know the truth about their own history?
Is it because knowledge is so powerful, it must be kept from the wrong hands?
That is BS!

Pharoah and Caesar and every Monarch and dictator ever, KEPT knowledge FROM the people specifically because it was POWER over them!
If the people had the knowledge they wouldn't need Pharoah, and his Priest class!

Secrets are kept because of witch trials?
Are Masons witches?
Yes, indeed, The Craft, is essentially Magick.
Thanks for your honesty. (sarcasm)

Church persecution?
Yes, that's true, BUT... Masonry is much, much older than the Roman Catholic Church... And the Secrecy goes back to (before) Hiram Abiff... Jubilee, Jubilah, Jubilum... Those darn Ju's.

Are the rest of us just not worthy???
Who are you people to decide that?!?
You aren't the discoverers of this knowledge, just the caretakers.
Revelation is here, now.

If Masons are so good why not tell the true history of the world as they have known it, and have kept secret?

Anyway... Knowledge, and Wisdom, are two different things. Some knowledge is not worth having, and some things cannot be undone."

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Matthew 7:7-8 King James

Matthew 7:7-8
King James Version
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Yes, thank you...

Agreed. One does not need to join Masonry to receive the light, and the answers one is seeking. Yeshua is the light.

But this quote from the bible doesn't answer my question about Masonry.

I'm not joining, either.

I feel I know the answers, I'm just looking to get some real honesty from Masons. I've delved into the spirit world and all that Psychic Circle stuff and understand the forces at work.

I'm sorry I just don't trust the Masons. My faith is G-d, Yeshua, i.e. LOVE. Not men.

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