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In The Know : Are We Giving Robots Too Much Power?

Are we becoming an overly-mechanized society?


http://youtu.be/OGxdgNJ_lZM

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Do you think Watson and the Pizza Hut robot (see below)

are friends with this new ping pong playing robot?

Jeopardy! had Watson and chess had Deep Blue, so it was time for ping-pong to face a formidable opponent in technological form. The incredibly quick KUKA robot, normally used in manufacturing, squared off against a top ping-pong player—and performed really well.

Timo Boll is currently ranked eighth in the world for table tennis, but has held the No. 1 spot. For the opening of KUKA's new Shanghai robotics factory, he came on to endorse KUKA and play the robot in ping-pong. According to the (incredibly overproduced) video, it was a super-intense match. Boll had to play hard to beat the KUKA 11-9 in a match for the ages. Or at least it looks like it in the video—who knows how much of that was planned.

http://www.slate.com/blog...

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
Michael Nystrom's picture

I posted a link to this book in this thread yesterday

The New Machine Age

And it just so happens that the authors were on WBUR's OnPoint with Tom Ashbrook, which originates out of Boston (The BU stands for Boston University. In Seattle the NPR station was KUOW for U of Washington). The authors are also from MIT, which is in Cambridge, just across the river from Boston.

But enough geography!

It was a good show for those who are interested in these kinds of things:

WhatsApp And The Jobless Economy

Facebook pays $19 billion for WhatsApp, a company with 55 employees. Are we building a jobless economy?

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2014/02/24/whatsapp-labor-unemployme...

I am enjoying the book, too.

BTW Chris, I found one of those little libraries not a block from my house! I took a picture of it too.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Amazing, isn't it, what one can discover when the world thaws

enough to explore???

9-11 was a panda job.

as long as they don't have penises

they don't scare me

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

wow - prepare to be scared...


http://youtu.be/9lNPBtYDDKg

9-11 was a panda job.

nah, still not scary

It has no legs. I guess it's a legs and penis combination that I fear.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

ChristianAnarchist's picture

They don't need penises..

They don't need penises.. They have big steel rods !!

Beware the cult of "government"...

Michael Nystrom's picture

"I for one welcome our new computer overlords."

Not me, but I read that just today in The Second Machine Age

The quote comes from Ken Jennings who came in second to IBM's Watson in the all time Jeopardy championship.

He elaborated: "Quiz show contestant' may be the first job made redundant by Watson, but I'm sure it won't be the last."

Watch at Watson runs away with it:


http://youtu.be/o6oS64Bpx0g

Wow. I've never actually seen this until now - I've only read about it.

To prepare, Watson read Wikipedia. All of it.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

Look what Watson did at SXSW

Michael Nystrom's picture

Shut up!

Watson cooks now?

I wonder if he's friends with this Pizza Hut table?


http://youtu.be/xvT0MCugb58)

Personally, I'd just prefer a waiter. But man, we're not going to recognize the world in a few more years.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

"we're not going to recognize the world in a few more years"

That made me think of something. My Uncle worked for a while helping prisoners who have just been released get back into society with job placement and housing assistance and whatnot. A few years ago he was telling me that one of his recent clients had gone into prison in the late 80's and got out in the late 00's, I think this 08 or 09 or something. He said that guy was more shocked by all the technology he had missed.

Think of that though. Missing 20 years of technological advancements from the 80's-00's. When he went in, cell phones were a thing only government agencies and extremely wealthy people had and they were the size of bricks and operated more like walkie talkies. When he gets out everyone has a cell phone, they are used for more than communications, they are used for internet, listening to music, taking pictures....

And then the internet itself as the primary means of communication and social networking sites and so on and so forth.

And credit/ debit cards. While people had them when he went in, it was just as common if not more common to use cash or personal checks.

And then movie streaming, kindles, ipods.....

The world was probably completely unrecognizable to him.

gotta watch that later...

do you think Watson be programmed to tone it down a bit after a while when people are started to get annoyed at how much of a smartass 'he' is?

It's a lesson that's served me well...

9-11 was a panda job.

jrd3820's picture

I hope so

He is really starting to bother me. I think I will write a letter to his programers telling them he is no longer novel and cute (I never thought he was, but some people did) and that they should tell him to pretend he doesn't know everything once in a while. Maybe program him with an error code that allows for a certain amount of errors here and there.

Watson didn't laugh at the joke

I wonder how much advantage Watson had because of his lightning quick reflexes.

BTW, here is some cool info on the origins of that meme:
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-for-one-welcome-our-new-inse...

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

jrd3820's picture

He didn't laugh

Because he is a robot, not a person. Robots don't experience feelings or emotion so there is no need to laugh or cry or anything before, after, or in between.

oh, ok

thanks for explaining that to me :)

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

jrd3820's picture

You would be lost without me.

When are you going to admit it? :)

men don't admit,

they remit

Do you like that? I just made that up. Does it make sense? I think it might. Also, I just decided I don't like martinis. Tonic water is a better match for gin than vermouth. I am gonna pour this down the drain and make something else.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

all your martini base are belong to

us.

9-11 was a panda job.

proof that wikipedia is bunk?

I watched the first video you had up with the Jeopardy! round, and on question 3 'Watson" thought Serbia was in the EU! Another acronym - WTF? Even I knew it was Slovenia - where's my $1000?

9-11 was a panda job.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Yeah, I had to change that video because Watson lost !

In the end though, bunk Wikipedia or not, Watson obliterated the humans.

I know economists have that whole concept of comparative advantage and all, but what if humans have no comparative advantages left in 10 years?

Then what?

BTW, the $1000 is in the mail. :)

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
ChristianAnarchist's picture

short answer: yes!

short answer: yes!

Beware the cult of "government"...

I was weeping in my cell.

Yeah the President was just speaking to it's "destroy all humans" base.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

It's like watching actual

It's like watching actual cable news.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

"That was voted down by a

"That was voted down by a majority of robots in Congress."

lol...love the Onion.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Why would they turn against us? It doesn't make any sense.

We created them.....

9-11 was a panda job.

way to mechanized

I miss the hell outta my FlinstoneMobile. Give anything to have it back ! what a dumbazz I was for swappin it out for a rikshaw.
now my wife has developed a large hump on her back.

I call hump!

I'm the hump boy...
http://youtu.be/OgIhWzs9hZc

9-11 was a panda job.