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Holy Schnikees! Snowden's father and Bruce Fein just issued a vicious beat down

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Man, that was awesome.

Snowden's Dad did a really good job, he should be proud of his father.

A clear example

of the fruit and the tree.

Leges sine moribus vanae


Big Ups to the Snowdens, for making having an American Spine, 'fashionable' again.

Seriously, imagine...being honest, moral, just, and outspoken were the new 'trend'!!!

It's be so would be new!

so glad that both Lon and Ed are extremely informed, articulate, and driven individuals.

some r3VOL qualms with Bruce Fein in particular with his involvement with the neocon AEI/AIPAC Likudniks and being AGAINST Sibel Edmonds aside, regardless, as far as being one of the most important outspoken Constitutional legal scholars out there, he's NEVER let us down; he's very much a capable attorney and great to see him on the right side of history!

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

thx again Ancap

great video.


back at ya!

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

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Edward's dad appears to be a smart patriot, too!


Google is government.




found a douchebag response:

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

menedez "we have not, "thank

"we have not, "thank god", had an attack on american soil since 9/11"

why does that sound so onimous to me

The same Robert Menendez

who is under investigation for having sex with children in the Dominican Republic?

Bob Menendez Sex Scandal: Senator Allegedly Hired Underage Prostitutes

2 dipshits.

2 dipshits.

No TV...

is it on the net somewhere. I'd like to see it.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

I can't find it..

youtube or it didn't happen!!

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul


STEPHANOPOULOS: Now to the exclusive interview with Edward Snowden's father Lon Snowden, the family's lawyer, Bruce Fein. Thank you both for joining us this morning.

You just heard there some U.S. officials, according to Martha Raddatz, believe that a deal may be in the United States' interest. Do you think that's something your son is open to?

SNOWDEN: I can tell you that I'm not open it. And that's what I'll share with my son in terms of a plea deal at this point..

STEPHANOPOULOS: You're not open to it.

SNOWDEN: Not open to it. At this point, what I would like is for this to be vetted in open court for the American people to have all of the facts. What I have seen is much political theater. I was disappointed in the president's press conference. I believe that's driven by his clear understanding that the American people are absolutely unhappy with what they've learned and that more is going to be forthcoming.

So again, and I believe much of what he suggested is superficial. We can go over that point by point if you would like, but a deal -- the only deal will be true justice. You know, justice should be the goal of our government and is also the goal of a civil society.

FEIN: Those are the words of James Madison.

I could make these points, George. Number one, we now have a date for visiting Moscow.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You're going to Moscow?

FEIN: We have visas, we have a date, which we won't disclose right now because of the frenzy.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But it's imminent?

FEIN: Very soon. And we intend to visit with Edward and suggest criminal defense attorneys who have got experience in Espionage Act prosecutions. There have only been ten in over 100 years. We think, also, it's especially important to go back to what President Obama said about Edward not being a patriot. It was the voice of the American revolution, Thomas Payne who defined a patriot as someone who saves his country from his government.

And we also heard about the alleged disasters that would ensue to the United States because of what Edward has done. Let's go back to the Bradley Manning case, when it came to the damage phase, the United States conceded not one person has been injured and impaired because of what Bradley Manning disclosed.

STEPHANOPOULOS: What was your reaction when you heard the president say your son is not a patriot?

SNOWDEN: I would say -- again, I think he was put in a tough spot. There were many questions that should have been asked at that press conference that were not. I would have liked to see them ask about the DEA special operation division, many other things -- his treatment of whistle-blowers. But in terms of him characterizing my son as a patriot, or others like Peter King who characterized him as a traitor, what I would say is that my son has spoken the truth. He has sacrificed more than either the president of the United States or Peter King have ever in their political careers or their American lives. So how they choose to characterize him really isn't...

STEPHANOPOULOS: But (inaudible) you say you're not open to a deal, but you are -- it does sound like you're going to encourage your son to come here back and face trial?

FEIN: I think, George, I can add -- because I wrote a letter with Lon to the attorney general of the United States saying we would like to discuss conditions that would make it permissible.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Right. You said no pre-trial detention, no gag order, and he would choose the venue.

FEIN: No, no, no, a venue that was impartial, because of the history of the Eastern District of Virginia being a graveyard for defendants.

But, those, George, were not stated as ultimatums. They were subjects for discussion, with non-circumvention clauses in there. Just because we understand, we can't dictate what the Department of Justice does.

STEPHANOPOULOS: And as a father, you want your son to come home.

SNOWDEN: As a father, I want my son to come home if I believe that the justice system that we should be afforded as Americans is going to be applied correctly. At this point, when you consider many of the statements made by our leaders, leaders in congress, they are absolutely irresponsible and inconsistent with our system of justice. They have poisoned the well, so to speak, in terms of a potential jury pool.

Where my son chooses to live the rest of his life is going to be decision. What I would like at some point in time for him to be able to come back to the U.S. Whether he's going to live the rest of his life here, and face this, because I believe that the truth will shine through. It's clear that the American people, regardless of what laws have been passed by congress...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I was going to say, it does appear that he broke the law.


George, that's simply irresponsible to suggest before a trial someone has broken the law. It may well be that what he disclosed is protected by the first amendment. The president himself has already conceded there's something irregular about the way the NSA...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Although, the president pointed out that he had other avenues open to him...

FEIN: Yes. Let's go that. And what he said was, oh, Mr. Snowden should have gone to the congressional oversight committees. The congressional oversight committees have gone on record, Dianne Feinstein, he's guilty of treason. These were the committees that knew for seven years what was going on and refused to disclose it to the American people. The best was some cryptic statements.

If the American knew what was going on, they would be stunned.

And Edward Snowden is supposed to go to them? That seems rather implausible, because they were the ones who were responsible for the secrecy.

SNOWDEN: I want to add to this. I want to add is in terms of -- the president made the statement that Edward -- that the president had enacted whistle-blower laws that protected contractors like my son Edward, that is absolutely untrue. Either the president is being misled by his advisers or he is intentionally misleading the American people...

STEPHANOPOULOS: You don't think he would have been protected by the whistle blower status?

SNOWDEN: Absolutely not.

And maybe at some point, we should go through that. You know, just hypothetically, let's imagine that Edward Snowden said, wow, there's a problem -- let's say he got on an airline in Honolulu and he chose to fly to Washington, D.C., lands at Dulles and he actually gets an audience with, oh, let's say, Peter King or Dianne Feinstein, how do we think that he would have been received if he had a private audience with them? We have seen how they reacted, even when the truth comes out, they spin the truth, they try to hide it from the American people. He would have been buried under the capital. And we would have never known the truth.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Final question. I know you haven't been in direct contact with your son, but what do you know about his condition right now?

FEIN: I'll just say that having spoken with Anatoly Kucherena, who is his Russian attorney, Anatoly has said he's safe. He obviously is exhausted. But he's now needing a period of time where he can recoup his energy level and reflect on what he wishes to do going forward.

And that's from Mr. Kucherena. We hope to meet with him very soon with Edward in the next weeks.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Good luck with that. Thank you both for joining...

FEIN: Thank you.

SNOWDEN: Thank you, sir.

Astute politics

Godspeed the Snowdens and Fine's just cause!