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Rand Paul on Israeli groups: "I visit with them daily"

Rand Paul on Israeli groups: "I visit with them daily"

By Martin Hill

LibertyFight.com
DontWakeMeUp.org

August 13, 2013

http://libertyfight.com/2013/rand_paul_visits_with_Israeli_g...

Senator Rand Paul gave a speech on July 31st promoting his Amendment to eliminate aid to Egypt.
(Amendment No. 1739 to S. 1243). The 4-page Amendment didn't mention Israel once, yet the transcript of Paul's speech mentioned Israel no less than 16 times.

There were a few revealing tidbits in Paul's speech, such as when Paul admits "There's probably 20 different groups in our country who support the nation of Israel and support them as our ally. I speak to them all the time. I visit with them daily and weekly in our office."

Paul also noted:
-"I've had both private and public discussions with the leaders of Israel"


-"It's about doing things that actually I think would be beneficial to Israel."


-"I'm precisely worried about them using them against Israel."


-"What happens when these weapons are used against Israel?"

Here are some more excerpts and a video of Paul's speech which he posted on his Senate website. Maybe Paul should visit with constitutents from Kentucky daily instead, and address their concerns instead of being constantly obsessed with Israel. Some additional Rand Paul archives are below.

Senate Votes on Paul Egypt Aid Amendment

http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=911

I fear one day that someone may arise in Egypt who says let's attack Israel with these planes. Let's attack Israel with these tanks.

People say "well, if we don't give them planes, if we don't pay them to buy our planes, they will think we don't like them and they will go to war with Israel.

I'm precisely worried about them using them against Israel.

What happens when these weapons are used against Israel?

I have spoken to many people who love, respect and have a great deal of admiration for Israel. I admire our relationship and our alliance and am very proud of the fact that we stand together on so many issues.

So to bring it up and say "oh, the people who are against this don't care about Israel is just a canard." I think that this precisely continuing to arm an unstable government in Egypt could well be to Israel's harm, and that's precisely why I bring this amendment forward.

This is an important debate. It's not about doing things to harm Israel. It's about doing things that actually I think would be beneficial to Israel.

So buying arms, American tanks and American tear gas to be used for crowd control isn't exactly what the Egyptian people have in mind as far as engagement. With regard to Israel, there is no unified statement from the nation of Israel saying that they're for this. I've had both private and public discussions with the leaders of Israel, and to tell you the truth, without naming individuals, I can tell you they're not too excited about sending more arms to Egypt.

So for someone to come to the floor and say they speak for the nation of Israel, they speak for all people who love Israel in our country, it's just false. There's probably 20 different groups in our country who support the nation of Israel and support them as our ally. I speak to them all the time. I visit with them daily and weekly in our office.

Sen. Rand Paul Introduces Amendment to Eliminate Aid to Egypt

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LINKS:

LibertyFight.com Zionism Archives

  • Rand Paul is no Ron Paul, and he'll go to Israel to prove it December 6th, 2012


  • Rand Paul: Building in J'lem none of US's business
    01/12/2013
  • Breitbart:
    In Israel, Rand Paul Tries to Shed Ron Paul's Poor Record

    Jan 10, 2013
    "It is unfair to judge Rand Paul by his father's record. He is doing his best to highlight distinctions. Still, he is not quite there."

  • Rand Paul's Israel trip funded by evangelical group that fosters hatred against gays
    moddoweiss.com 8/8/13
  • Economic Policy Journal: Rand Paul's Views After 7 Days in Israel January 13, 2013

    "On Saturday, Rand Paul conducted a briefing at Jerusalem's Mamila Hotel. Here's what I have been able to put together from a number of reports.... Another coded message from Rand. And some not so coded messages..."

    IN 2010:

  • The American Conservative:
    Rand's secret rendezvous
    Sep 30, 2010
  • In 2010, Rand came out and publicly opposed a mosque near ground zero, a position at odds with his father Ron which was mocked by the Weekly Standard:
    Is Rand Paul Just Another Neocon Stooge?
    Aug 23, 2010

    United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012:

    Multiple AIPAC Chairmen flanked Obama as he signed Israeli bill 8/1/12

    "Despite tough fiscal times, the President fought for and secured the largest amount of funding for Israel in U.S. history"

    White House taking comments on pending Israeli aid legislation prior to Obama's signature 7/26/12
    "Republican Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who introduced the bill along with Barbara Boxer on March 6 2012, stated"There should not be one scintilla of light between the positions of Republicans and Democrats on the issue of the security of Israel."

    New law allows Israeli Air Force easy opportunity for a false flag in United States 7/20/12
    [Featured on WhatReallyHappened.com.]

    House passes Israeli loyalty bill by voice vote, awaits Obama's sig 7/18/12
    [Featured on WhatReallyHappened.com.]

    RAND PAUL & ISRAEL:

    Israeli Air Force to Conduct Training Exercises in United States Under Fast-Tracked Aid Bill 7/15/12
    [Featured on WhatReallyHappened.com.]

    7/14/12: I spoke with Rand Paul's Senate office in D.C. to inquire about this matter:

    Rand Paul remains silent on $9 Billion dollar giveway to Israel 7/14/12 [Featured on Economic Policy Journal]


    The red-herring of Rand Paul's "proposed foreign aid cuts"
    7/14/12
    Yes, Paul proposed a very good bill to cut foreign aid in 2011, but the bill went nowhere. So that single attempt does not exonerate Paul from sticking to his purported position of no foreign aid in the future.

    "Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel on the backs of American taxpayers 7/9/12

    Romney Lapdog Joins Criminal Senate, Guarantees $9 Billion Dollars (plus interest) in Loans to Israel in six second voice vote
    [Featured on LewRockwell.com and Economic Policy Journal]

    Rand Paul Archives

    ALSO:

    Ron Paul officially promotes his Israeli-smitten son Randy for President 2016

    On Anniversary of 9/11 tragedy, Rand Paul peddles his new book September 13, 2012

    Rand Paul claims violence/death threats made against him by liberty advocates - Has anyone been charged? [Featured on FreedomsPhoenix.com.]

    Ron Paul says GOP is wrong for trying to cut food stamps one week after Rand tried to cut food stamps

    Libertarion icon criticizes Republicans for precisely what Rand spearheaded

    Rand Paul betrays Liberty Movement

    Ron Paul on 9/11 conspiracies (in chronological order)

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    I can't read this man's mind--

    and I don't believe there is or will be a human savior--

    I didn't think that about Ron Paul. Only time will tell.

    But the important thing is to live in such a way that *you* (we/I/everyone) don't hurt others.

    I could not play these political games. I couldn't handle Washington; I don't know how people do it--

    I know a lot cave to special interests.

    But, in the meantime, I study all I can and watch closely.

    And try to make the world a better place in my little corner of it.

    it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

    Is there any doubt...

    ...that Zionists literally control our country. Time for a PURGE!!!!

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
    - President John F. Kennedy

    It sure does appear that...

    ...Rand is suckin Satan's c#ck!!!!! Just sayin'...

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
    - President John F. Kennedy

    ChristianAnarchist's picture

    Rand is not perfect. Neither

    Rand is not perfect. Neither am I. I hope that if elected to the office of president of this fiction call the "United States of America". I would play the game and vote for him if Ron is not running on the chance that he has learned something of liberty from his father.

    If we keep on beating this old drum though, we may chase away a potential ally on the march toward liberty...

    Beware the cult of "government"...

    Just playing the game, right?

    wink wink

    puke retch

    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    Here's something

    to understand about Zionism, and why I have serious problems with Rand's positions on Israel. Even if you are not Christian, it is still esential to understand how this system of 'religous' Zionism was created, and how it's been used as control of Christians who should be supporters of Liberty. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/scofield.htm

    what in this ops post is

    what in this ops post is false? seems rand fluffers are upset over facts.

    are the negative votes suggesting this is a lie or false?

    Ron Paul 2016

    The only facts stated are that

    The only facts stated are that Rand said Egyptian arms could be used against Israel, he doesn't constantly talk down Israeli subsidy bills, and he lets pro-Isrel groups talk to him. So what?

    What if I were a Democrat senator who wanted to propose a bill to end corporate welfare. We all know that would be hard to pass, so I try to show my democrat colleagues in terms they will agree with why they should support it. I will tell them that corporate subsidies could be used by big corporations to hurt unions. Yes, all that taxpayer corporate funding just could be used to attack unions!
    Maybe I meet with union bosses every day - which doesn't prove I agree with them - and I try to show them how my plan to end crony handouts helps their plan to limit corporate power.

    Since they all think that Obama's corporate handouts are good (even though Bush's were bad) I don't directly say that Obama is wrong to do so, instead I say that it gives corporations an advantage that they wouldn't otherwise have. If I win them over, It accomplishes something useful even though it may be incomplete.

    There is one very major downside to the idea though:

    Even though nothing I said was actually wrong, I don't sound libertarian enough. Oh lord! What will we do!

    Andrew Napolitano for President 2016!
    http://andrewnapolitano.com/index

    "Patriotism should come from loving thy neighbor, not from worshiping Graven images." - ironman77

    "marijuana is dangerous" rand

    "marijuana is dangerous" rand paul waits for his reverse pandering coming soon to a Colorado voter and nationally very soon.

    Ron Paul 2016

    duh

    Rand is either a coward or a Christian Zionist.

    I'm curious

    does Rand visit with other countries groups on a daily basis too?

    .

    .

    "If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

    This post is rediculous!

    Rand Paul shows support for Israel, he must be an evil Zionist! More Neo nazi BS. I suppose the aqua budha stuff is next to be posted here.

    who needs aqua Buddha? rand

    who needs aqua Buddha? rand has clearly stated marijuana is dangerous. if he thinks he can win Colorado he will have to flip flop like an obamney in colorado and nationally, "marijuana is dangerous" rand paul great way to alienate the majority voter base in Colorado that already nullified the gop/dems and fed gov 2 times.

    who needs enemies when you have rand paul. former delegate for ron paul 2008/2012, rand has a lot of reverse pandering to do before I bother wasting my time on him.

    Ron Paul 2016

    no, just shows he is either a

    no, just shows he is either a coward or Christian Zionist. A Zionist can be well intentioned, and still be wrong. In other words, cut out the drama, one can be a Zionist and not be evil.

    Jesus Christ, if you want to

    Jesus Christ, if you want to be taken even remotely serious then learn to spell "ridiculous" correctly. Yes, spelling and grammar relate to logic and the ability to think so the moment I see such a basic error it means you have marginalized yourself before you have even left the gate.

    "In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

    ~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

    Wow

    Your response is to attack me? Grow up. My iphone auto corrected me, I can spell great. Maybe if you want to be taken seriously, you should not be judgmental. In case you can't comprehend what I'm trying to say, that means no one likes an a**hole, and you certainly know how to be one.

    SteveMT's picture

    When the message cannot be attacked, then attack the messenger.

    That seems to be the rule everywhere that one looks. You are experiencing an inkling of what Ron Paul had to endure for decades. Be strong. Be happy. You're o.k. in my book.

    :)

    I appreciate that. I didn't know I was mentioned in your book. lol kidding

    To easy on the spelling corrections

    They probably went to public schools, therefore never learns to spell.

    Actually

    I attended a private school my whole life.

    Blackmail, threats, and

    Blackmail, threats, and bribery = Control of our Gov. Until these 3 things are somehow addressed, we will never get this country back under the control of the people.

    When rand says Israel

    Just replace the word israel for america , that is what he means when it comes to weaponry being used to take down civilian airliners.

    now the real debate should be is he a zionist or not ?

    only time will tell.

    "He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
    the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

    I don't understand your point?

    Are you saying Rand is wrong to try to get the funding to Egypt stopped?

    I think Rand has been pretty clear that he's in favor of stopping all foreign aid Israel included. Obviously a bill like that would never get passed so he took a shot at stopping some to Egypt where he felt he had an actual chance of stopping some.

    I don't see what's wrong with that.

    Who do you think would be a better candidate who has a chance at getting elected?

    The two minute hate for 8/15 has begun!

    Now, with the intention of harming Rand Paul.

    FCUK IsisRaEl & AIPAC warwhores: be America 1sters, or FOAD

    related commentary; apropos of which: http://www.dailypaul.com/295920#comment-3169430

    so the AIPAC-warWHORE HARMan LIKES the fact that NSA spied on her and FBI used their logs against her, recently??

    LOL! Talk about a Stockholm Syndromer!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Harman#AIPAC_controversy

    In April 2009, CQ Politics, also quoting anonymous sources, said Harman had been captured on a National Security Agency wiretap prior to the 2006 elections, telling an "Israeli agent" that she would "waddle into" lobbying the Department of Justice on the AIPAC case. Harman ended the phone call, according to CQ, by saying, "This conversation doesn’t exist".[17][18] Harman denied the allegations, saying: "These claims are an outrageous and recycled canard, and have no basis in fact. I never engaged in any such activity. Those who are peddling these false accusations should be ashamed of themselves".[16]

    Yes Jane, Sure Jane:


    http://youtu.be/qdFLPn30dvQ

    Yes, rhetorical, needs not said among those who actually know how the REAL world operates, but still, one must wonder: Is this the US Govt, or the Knesset??

    In what insane country does its legislative body and the govt as a whole, express more concerns about another country's well-being, than their own???

    Bite me AIPAC-dildo suckers! You can shove it, bitches: until they actually answer for their USS Liberty warcrimes, among other things, they aren't anyone's "ally"!!!

    When future off-world historians write their summation on Earth's human inhabitants' history, they will look upon with awe and bewilderment, at the utter ridiculousness of HOW-TF Earth's moronic fascination with the most useless, geopolitically/geostrategically feckless, religiously inflated in its importance, no 'natural resources-rich' piece of scheisse strip on land in the Mediterranean has dictated this planet's affairs for so long, come to be. And, how gullible the entire world population could be, that they'd actually LET THEM get away with their mythical importance, for so long.

    Geesh, could 'we' quit this shiite already???

    Predictions in due Time...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

    "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

    P.S. as for Rand,

    personally, I'm still willing to see WHAT he actually does, once as POTUS, on the Isis-Ra-El matter.

    Right now, me thinks it's more political posturing and rhetorical foreplay, than anything.

    Sure, we've heard it many times that "Rand is NOT Ron" when it comes to blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah, blah: that said, I'm still willing to gauge how he actually acts on the issue; while his Iran econ-sanctions & 'support Israel', ie: 'war on them is war on America, blah blah'-meme is a bit disappointing, but still: me thinks it's more political posturing and rhetorical than actual dyed-in-the-wool-'belief'.

    Besides, neither of those votes had any real financial bite, plus Rand stipulated (for what that's legally worth, when those amendments usually fail) in each one that it doesn't mean authorization of force or financial support.

    Well... at least in Rand's personal position; wholly different matter as to HOW or WHAT they're gonna act on a, b, c, or fund x, y, z, regardless of what a bill or a binding or even a non-binding 'resolution' and 'sense of the Senate'-blah blah says or does not say what it's meant to do: govt terrorists will do whatever the frak they want, regardless of even what they themselves stated on the record about the recent 'law'/bill/resolution that they just passed, says they can or cannot do! LOL...er.. .o(

    Predictions in due Time...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

    "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

    You're being spied on right now

    could be from Germany or England, or maybe Snowden's new job spying from Russia.. that OK? Better for it to be global UN Agenda?

    really Granger,

    you really can't take a hint, eh?

    well, in case you don't remember:

    http://www.dailypaul.com/295052#comment-3160854

    This? Actually means what it says: Adieu, seriously, like forever.

    I RARELY, if ever, do this, especially with anyone from DP, but really Granger, don't bother engaging with me, I'll ignore you either way; I'm not interested in speaking to mirror speakers who are solely interested in talking to themselves. plus, can't stand irrational AIPAC-dildo fcukers.

    your first & last reminder.

    be gone. really, really: adieu, like forever, forever.

    Predictions in due Time...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

    "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

    GO RAND GO ISRAEL!!

    (((((((RAND)))))))))) (((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))))
    (((((((((((People's of Palestine)))))))))))))))

    LOVE IS THE ANSWER

    Haters unite in the UN Agenda for AUTHORITY over self determination, bash Rand (and Ron Paul) and Israel

    (((((((((((rEVOLution)))))))))))

    Liberty Movement is a SHAM of body snatchers who stole Ron Paul's message for their own profit and agenda.