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Col. Pete Martino, USMC, Ret: "There's ALWAYS Free Cheese in a Mousetrap!" Stern Gallows Humor Warning @ BearCat APC Hearing, NH

Police State Too Much? Send in a Marine!

http://youtu.be/Equc9A1pqQk
bikerbillnh
Adventures in the Free State Blog
Published on Aug 15, 2013

This is how the Free State rolls. This is just the kind of active support for limited government, liberty and personal responsibility that's increasingly part of daily life in NH. Thank you FSP. What took you so long to get here...?

http://freestateproject.org/

During testimony at the Concord City Council public hearing regarding the acquisition of a ManBearPig-- er, I mean BearCat, the "Homeland Security" grant-subsidized (so, your money, regardless) armored attack truck (the manufacturer's description, although the cops prefer "rescue vehicle," which isn't exactly prominent in the marketing materials for some reason) by local law enforcement's Special Operations Unit, in Concord, NH, 8/12/2013, there was this little gem from retired Marine Colonel Pete Martino.

Complete hearing at http://bikerbillnh.blogspot.com/2013/08/two-hundred-activist...

"Peter Martino is a citizen of the State of New Hampshire. Mr. Martino is a Colonel in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve who has been mobilized three times. During his military career, he commanded an infantry platoon, company, and battalion. He was also the senior U.S. adviser to an Iraqi Army brigade. Mr. Martino has had a successful civilian career providing training, consulting, and program management services to private companies and to state and federal agency contractors. Mr. Martino presently holds a top secret security clearance." - 2008 Bio


SaveOurLiberty
@YouTube Mirror:
Retired Marine Issues Dire Warning About US 'Building A Domestic Army'!

FULL 3hr Video: Concord, NH Activists Hold Off a Bearcat - Complete, Low Res

http://youtu.be/wgRVQmQdk_Q
bikerbillnh
Published on Aug 13, 2013

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Sheila Beck's The Blaze: ‘Is Everybody Blind?’: City Council Meeting Erupts in Applause After Retired Marine Issues Dire Warning About U.S. ‘Building a Domestic Army’ [Updated]

Aug. 15, 2013 10:25pm Mike Opelka

A former member of the United States Marine Corps on Monday night voiced his serious concerns about the U.S. “building a domestic Army” during a local city council meeting in Concord, N.H. In his impassioned testimony, the retired Marine said he believes that the recent push for local police forces to bulk up on military-grade equipment is disturbing and represents a very real threat to Americans.

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Previous DailyPaul Threads on the Concord, NH LenCo BearCat APC DHS/DoD-grant Acquisition:

Joe For Liberty, Sun, 07/28/2013: City Applies for Militarized Vehicle to Suppress PEACEFUL Political Opposition

Smaulgld.com, Fri, 08/02/2013: Concord NH Police Request Tank to Combat Free State Project "Terrorists" - FSP Responds

Joe For Liberty, Tues, 08/13/2013: "We're building a domestic military" -Retired Marine Corps Colonel speaks out against BearCat

Veritas Aequitas, Thu, 08/15/2013: "We're building a domestic army" -Marine Corps Colonel Speaks Out at NH City Council Meeting

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What is a LenCo BearCat? Check out the following post to find out more:

What a Lenco Bearcat looks & drives like, inside out, courtesy of Jay Leno

Jay Leno's Garage: Lenco BearCat

http://youtu.be/bBaWlF0ME-w
JayLenosGarage
Published on Aug 8, 2012

LAPD SWAT officer Mark Nee stops by the garage with the massive twin-turbo diesel, 6.7-liter armored Rescue 4. You'll go inside and out of the revolving turret, under the hood, and for a ride with Jay. And if see one in your neighborhood, well... run!

Check out the Official Jay Leno's Garage Site for more:
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com

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Do not be afraid, folks.

Tactically, these Lenco Bearcats are utterly useless, in 'urban' operations. Just think, LA, a city of about 2 million with 5~6million within its metro area, being 'protected' with just three.

If they were really, really, really 'necessary' you don't just have three. Nor would they cancel orders, under public pressure, if the 'officers' lives truly depended on them.'

All for Fear-PR, nothing more, nothing less.

They're nothing more than a corporatist boondoggle designed to force municipalities to go on tacti-fool envy (would you believe LenCo's official YT page de-listed that Team America, F*ck Yeah! music video under public uproar over glorifying militarization of the local popo? lol!)

http://youtu.be/gipHbhgJaX4
so they can charge the citizenry $200~300,000 per vehicle, or make the case for more DoD/DHS grants (aka corporatist subsidization) into buying these behemoths that are nothing more than a Fear-PR tool, sold under the guise of "protecting you."

http://www.lencoarmor.com/

Didn't ya know? EVERYTHING govt does, is done to "protect you!"

lol.

BearCats, in reality, are just lightly 'up-armored' Brinks Trucks, with a turret (for fear factor: but by the time you see 'normal' police trucks mounted with M2 "Ma Deuce" .50BMG machineguns 'patrolling' the streets for pre-crimes, clearly SHTF and even the dumbest sheeple are gonna accept that by then, we're under martial law) and fancier blinking lights; they're just APC's (Armored Personnel Carriers) that are merely designed to look imposing.

Chances are, its armor plating is AR500, the industry standard, also used as metal targets at the range. Depending on its thickness its protective capabilities vary, but for most SWAT trucks, they're probably spec-ed out at its nominally 'base' level: rated to withstand most .30 caliber rifle rounds, ie 7.62 NATO/.308 and AK rounds like 7.62x39mm/7.62x54R.


http://youtu.be/vJdz8iVUtiw

Thicker ones are impervious to .50BMG, but for armored vehicle use, they become un-maneuverable/overly heavy, and cost prohibitive; by then, may as well roll around in a real armored tank.

Only if the People knew just how absolutely useless these things are in real life, they'd be up in arms over the fact that they're nothing more than just another govt waste, at best. At worst, a tool that's used, as seen many times in what's become more common in the trigger-happy/zero-recon world of eager SWAT teams: utterly ILLEGAL, erroneous-address-house-raids that usually result in murders committed by the raiding SWAT against (an) innocent American(s), or their favorite 4-legged canine companions, or both.

Then again, if the People 'knew better,' Dr. Paul would have been the POTUS in 1988, let alone in 2008.

Purely for reference, for more private armoring options, check out Ben Swann, in his earlier days in Texas, reporting on a local armored vehicle company, Texas Armoring Corporation:

Ben Swann, KTSM9: Clear and Present Danger - Armored Cars, Trucks, and SUVs for Mexico

http://youtu.be/9fGN-4x1czs
armoredvehicles
Uploaded on Mar 20, 2009

Clear and Present Danger

Ben Swann / KTSM9

It was January of this year when a manager for the Lear plant in Juarez was rescued by Mexican soldiers. The man, who's name was never released had been kidnapped while driving to work 5 days before. Kidnappers had asked for 2 Million dollars in ransom.

Around the same time, also in January, another executive working for a plant in Juarez comes under attack. This time, a woman working for the American company Delphi. Armed men reportedly attempted to carjack her.

Delphi executives were tight-lipped about the incident, only saying that the woman, who was also not identified, managed to speed off and make it to the plant safely.

"Right now, you don't know who's who up there and you don't know who's next." says Private Investigator Jay J. Armes.

Armes has made a living out of rescuing kidnap victims. In all his years, however, he's never seen a time like this. Especially for American executives who have to work in Juarez.

In fact, Armes says he recently warned a high ranking maquila executive. Armes says after the kidnapping of one of their executives, Lear made the decision to have all their executives work from El Paso.
Other maquilas still have their executives traveling back and forth to Juarez. That's where Armes comes in.

"We have to have a special escort for the executives to see that they get to their post or plant safely and about the time that they have to go back to the U.S., they call us and we have them escorted back to the U.S." says Armes

"A lot of these businessmen that I talk to are concerned about protecting their wives and their children." says Jason Forston, an Executive Vice President with Texas Armoring Corporation.

That concern has meant a booming business for Texas Armoring Corporation. The company in which is based in San Antonio, specializes in creating armored vehicles.

But, we're not just talking about bullet proof glass and armored doors.

"We have a road tack dispensing system so that if someone is chasing you, you flip a switch in your center console and the tacks drop out and you puncture their tires." says Forston.

Not to mention, smokescreens, electric doorhandles, and fortified crash bumpers. The company has had a 100% increase in business from Mexico.

In fact, one of the clients who drives his vehicle in Juarez, we're told, escaped an attempted carjacking just days ago.

"They came up and they tried to shoot the glass, they tried to smash it and he just stepped on the gas, got away and he was completely safe." says Forston.

For more information on Texas Armoring Corporation, visit http://www.texasarmoring.com or call us at 210.333.0211.



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Here's another distressing angle to this militarization of LE's

Cost of maintenance. Military vehicles are the proverbial "white elephant". With poor gas mileage and custom spec parts, think how much more in tax dollars they will devour for upkeep. Reminds me the of the guard dogs in book Animal Farm that were always hungry and got the best of everything.

This militarization will implode our economy just like it did to the USSR during the Cold war.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

yup, and yes to ALL your salient points!

"guard dogs in book Animal Farm that were always hungry and got the best of everything."

that, pretty much sums it all up.

geopolitics and realities of wars aside, seriously, whyTF does the ye 'ol town of Concord, NH 'deserve' a $300,000 LenCo BearCat ('combat-proven'...that's rarely EVER used in actual combat), when the troops overseas had to have political pressure exerted over the feckless Stateside commissars by the citizenry and the servicemen/women's families, to finally provide them with somewhat smallarms fire-resistant, actually 'armored' Humvees that has LESS chance of survival than a BearCat? It was only recently that they started getting V-hulls, and those are asininely unmaneuverable in urban settings, and as you clearly echoed, horrible mileage and upkeep.

so, everyone who knows ANYTHING knows that this is nothing more than a corporatist contract for LenCo as a payola by whomever the douchebag a-hole Congressmen or Senator(s) they have on their payroll. 'cause you know, after all, it's a 'jobs'/stimulus program, didn't ya know? LOL...er.. .o(

pure PsyOps visual tool of oppression, nothing more.

No matter how tyrannical a society devolves & degenerates, you'd think that at least even the low to mid-level commissars would retain some semblance of self-preservation instincts, but alas, it's literally as if it never entered their minds that when they undermine OUR, their employers' freedoms and liberties, they're in fact, in actuality, shackling themselves and their grandkids as well??

lawd have mercy.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

weekend

update.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Another excellent post, AnCap

Packed with info everyone, the world over, should be made aware of.

In that first link there's a comment from Rob from Infowars to contact him to which Biker Bill replied so can bet this will soon make it on Alex' show.

HUZZA! HUZZA! HUZZA!

Just change a few words to fit today's scenario and we can resurrect one of our Revolutionary Songs

http://www.contemplator.com/america/freeamer.html

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

thanks

and thanks for the heads up and the link.

yup. would love to see him on the show; looking forward to it!

PS. They haven't put it up online, yet, but you maybe interested in the September 2013 Esquire Mag's John H. Richardson (whose dad actually worked for the CIA, who did an EXCELLENT profile of the Good Doc for RP2012) and his very 'fair'-ish profile on Alex (one of the few such profiles that's actually half-way decent and/or fair to AJ which is far & few in between; recent Rolling Stone piece and another one from some TX or Austin-only local periodical are the only ones that come to mind, that even come remotely close to being okay-ish).

Actually, the profile was quite interesting; nothing that I didn't know or haven't been able to find out or verify publicly already, but still good to see that side him being explored by others, whom mostly, only childishly, moronically, a-priori dismissively mis-characterize him as the 'fuming, ranting "conspiracy theorist."'

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Well said sir!

"Homeland Security is pre-positioning equipment.... Is everyone blind?"

Gotta get him on Alex Jones.

yup;

would LOVE to see him interviewed on Infowars Nightly News, or AJ's daily radio show!

Alex has guests with the most interesting, important, diverse, and disparate backgrounds of ANY TV and/or RadioShows, other than C2C, in the world!!!

to wit:

Betrayal & Cover-Up: The Murder Of Seal Team 6

http://youtu.be/wJ8RdITypao
http://www.dailypaul.com/295439/charles-the-father-of-slain-...

Sgt. Joe Biggs Witnessed Troops Being Drugged

http://youtu.be/sj0qAbJV0yU
http://www.dailypaul.com/295904/michael-hastings-friend-ssgt...

Ben Swann's Truth in Media Launches Exclusive NSA Expose

http://youtu.be/toorSPu0JbA
http://www.dailypaul.com/295834#comment-3169310

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

That's the bottom line. Free cheese.

What about Pied Piper that infected the town with his trained rats then charged a fee for removal.

These stories are warnings from the past where folks were fooled. Dare we ignore them because our team is so good?

Bump for later, thanks anCap!

Free includes debt-free!

quite welcome!

personally, considering how I'm often inclined to beihg on the slightly longwinded/verbose side, I always feel silly, whenever I hear someone so poignantly summarize a whole geopolitical mess, with a simple, succinct, 'momma's lesson/warning to her kids'-adage, just like how Col. Martino was able to:

There's always 'free' cheese in a mousetrap!

like duh, eh?

LOL

so true, so true. sadly so, apropos of the police state that's ALREADY here.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul