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A Disproportionate Threat : Terror from Islamic Radicals vs. Terror from Fascism at Home

Eisenhower: The original conspiracy theorist?

"No state ever benefited from prolonged warfare" - TsSun Tzu

"All warfare is based on deception." - Tzu

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I have many good friends who share my values that don't share my take on "the War on Terror." Fueled by a government-encouraged media-frenzy, they are so fearful of the threat of radical Islam that it is eclipsing other factors which they used to care about deeply when they made political choices. Or check that, they still care about those other things deeply, but have not resolved the conflict between those other things and the so-called "War on Terror."

Sun Tzu correctly noted that no state ever benefited from prolonged warfare. Unfortunately, modern technological states have a military-industrial complex which, like a parasite, does benefit from prolonged warfare- at the expense of the finances and the liberties of the actual nation. That is exactly what President General Eisenhower warned us about in 1961. Please listen to his chilling warning.

When this organism gains inordinate political influence, the tail can wag the dog. Instead of a nation's war machine existing to protect the people and their rights, it can become twisted so that the nation and its people exist only to keep the war machine growing. At that point, instead of protecting the rights and property of the people, the war machine becomes the biggest threat to them.

During the Cold War, it was obvious why we needed the War Machine, and world-wide bases, and a global spy network, and investigations here at home too. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the War Machine floundered for a bit, searching for a threat it could hype enough to justify its continued growth. 9/11 changed that.

Contrary to the sloganeering, 9/11 did not "change everything." It did not change the Constitution. It did not change the Rights with which all men have been "endowed by their Creator" despite the tyrannical demands of the state. And it did not change the military-industrial complex. If Eisenhower warned us that they needed watching before 9/11, lest they threaten our liberties, then they still needed to be watched afterwards. Unfortunately, like a skillful magician, the ruling elites kept the eyes of the people, especially conservatives, directed elsewhere whilst the real trickery occurred within their own government.

The elites understand how badly they have misruled us. They know how many deceptive stratagems they have employed to short circuit all citizen efforts at true reform. The political class is sucking the nation dry, and sooner or later they realize that the illusion will shatter and the common people will figure it out. The security state they are currently erecting with break-neck speed is not to protect us from Islamic terrorists- it's to protect them from the American people once it becomes clear how they have robbed us blind.

Consider the facts. How many Islamic terrorists have there been, both actual and would be, on American soil each year since 9/11? The average is a paltry 16 per year. That average includes 2009 where they caught 17 would-be's in a single incident. In the vast majority of these cases, government informants were not just providing information, they were essential to the execution of the act of terrorism. The government asset would, for example, be the source of the weapons to be used in the attack. In many of these cases it is very likely that no terrorist attack would have ever gone down without the involvement of the government asset. IOW, the police state is producing would-be terrorists to provide ongoing justification for it's increasingly intrusive war on terror.

This is not to say that there are no terrorists out there, or that some precautions are not in order. Of course they are out there, because our own government is funding them in places like Libya and Syria.  But let's be rational here. Let's be proportional. For 16 actual and wanna-be terrorists a year, most of whom could not have followed through without assistance from a government asset, it make no sense to re-shape a free society of 310 million people into a police state.

For 16 men a year, many mentally ill like one of the two captured in the recent Seattle scare, it makes no sense to allow the government to search without a warrant and without probable cause, all your credit card records, your bank records, your emails, and your phone records. It makes no sense to restrict your travel, set up road blocks, and grope your wives and daughters at airports (and now at other mass transit points). The Feds are watching all of us more closely while at the same time letting hordes of new Muslims into the country. None of that makes any sense. That is, it makes no sense if the real goal is to stop Islamic terrorism. If the real goal is to keep profits flowing to the war/security industry and subjagate the American people to a police state then these actions make perfect sense.

I call on my conservative friends to be wise and favor allocating resources to threats in a rational and proportional manner. To me, that means less focus on defeating "Islamic Terror" and more focus on rolling back the domestic police state. Washington D.C is a more immediate threat to our freedoms and prosperity than Mecca.

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The cost benefit analysis

The cost benefit analysis shows it saves trillions of tax payer dollars every year to just let shit happen once in a while. You still have a better chance of dieing from bee stings.

pop corn needed indeed

and coffee.

The US Government is an

The US Government is an empire in it's own mind.

They make a mountain out of a

They make a mountain out of a mole hill concerning terrorism when honey bees kill more Americans than terrorists. You can never win a war on terror because it's a tactic. Al-Qaeda doesn't even own Fighter Jets or Battle Ships. They're virtually no threat whatsoever to national security technically. On top of all that, 9/11 was an inside job and Building 7 proves it.

A More Humorous look at the same subject from same blog

The Military Industrial Complex has made a lot of money in the war in Iraq. It has cost about eight million dollars per Iraqi killed (many of whom were non-combatants). If the goal of the war was to kill terrorists, it has been a costly failure. But maybe that was not the real purpose of the war. From the MI Complex's view, the point of the war is not to kill people, its to make the Military Industrial Complex money. The point is to transfer wealth from the taxpayers into the pockets of the MI Complex.

By that standard the Iraq "war" is an overwhelming success. Killing a few hundred thousand Iraqis and a few thousand Americans was simply an unfortunate by-product of all the motions they had to go through to get one trillion dollars from your pockets to theirs. That's why I and others call it a "zombie war". So what if the lifetime earnings of 50 Americans was consumed for each "enemy" casualty inflicted? Low numbers of enemy killed per dollar spent was not a problem, because the killings were the excuse, not the point.

All this time we never really got a clear idea of what the goal of the war in Iraq was. It now looks like the goal of the war was to make the MI Complex money. Gee. Why didn't they just say so?

But looking forward, the MI Complex is bumping up against an export growth problem. We are already everywhere. The United States has sent so many armed forces to so many parts of the world that the MI Complex does not have good long term growth prospects. I mean sure, they are trying to engineer a war with Syria and Iran, but that is very near term. What is their business plan for how they are going to continue to grow their sales five and ten years down the road? When you are that big, you have to take the long view.

I believe they have hit on a solution that they are in the initial stages of right now: grow the domestic market of the MI Complex by transforming the United States into a militarized police state. They have invaded the world, now they will invade us. All that spending here can be used to make us "safer", and poorer, by transferring additional trillions of dollars from our pockets to theirs. It has the added advantage of having body guards in place for the ruling class, who by now realize that they have crashed the economy.

The MI Complexes' new job won't be to fight them over there so we won't have to fight them over here. Instead, they will be over here, in our streets, protecting the master criminals in the ruling class from the peasants rioting once they realize how badly they and their children have been looted. No longer will we have a chicken in every pot, our chickens and perhaps even our pots, will have to be sold to pay for the check points at every corner. But it is a sacrifice we will have to make, or face arrest.

This explains why the senate was so anxious to pass a defense authorization bill which contains provisions which will make the 4th amendment null and void. They are laying the legal (but not constitutional) groundwork to do for the "Homeland" what they have done abroad. If they are very efficient in the process of transforming American into a permanent militarized police state they can have their perfect "zombie war." They will make trillions of dollars outfitting troops to run this way and that, search here and there, break down a few million doors, stash "traitors" in "detention camps". All that activity and maybe very few will get killed. Like I said, the perfect zombie war. I think you are gonna love it, or face arrest.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

I don't see it like that

I see it that when the US joined the League of Nations, we lost our way and became the "Arms" for globalization which occupation was symption not the goal, as troops are moved.. no one settles only the MIC sustains, not the individuals.

When the LoN morphed into the UN, the UN retained the USA are the occupying arms.

ALL nations have been losing their sovreinty, culture, rights and lands with those who refuse to give up these anchors to individualism and ownership, become the targets of the collective global power, which the MIC and that includes media, enforce.

Enforcing the homongenationzation of mankind will not end until mankind is washed of the concept, "I think, therefore I am."

History Check

The United States of America NEVER joined the League of Nations.

The LoN did not "morph" into the UN. The UN is a totally and completely different organization. The UN exists to provide a cloak of legitimacy to the actions of the Executive Branch of the US Government, which itself is pwned by the MilIndPlex

The USA established the LN

While the First World War was still underway, a number of governments and groups had already started developing plans to change the way international relations were carried out to try to prevent another such conflict.[16] United States President Woodrow Wilson and his adviser Colonel Edward M. House enthusiastically promoted the idea of the League as a means of avoiding any repetition of the bloodshed of the First World War, and the creation of the League was a centrepiece of Wilson's Fourteen Points for Peace.[19] Specifically the final point stated: "A general association of nations must be formed under specific covenants for the purpose of affording mutual guarantees of political independence and territorial integrity to great and small states alike."[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations

You have no idea what the UN is and I suggest you begin studying it SOON!

Yep

Wilson proposed 14 points after WW1 and the allies went with the Versailles Treaty instead. US executive branch was key in the formation of the League of Nations, but the legislative branch never confirmed US entry and therefore the US was never a member. Back in those days, obviously, congress mattered more than it does today while the US mattered less.

From same Wikipedia article you linked (but obviously didn't read):

"The onset of the Second World War demonstrated that the League had failed in its primary purpose, the prevention of another world war. There were a variety of reasons for this failure, many connected to general weaknesses within the organization. Additionally, the power of the League was limited by the United States' refusal to join.[162]"

You are correct on several levels

First, I want to admit, that I notice that terms and history is being re-written, for example, while I voted Nader 92, 96, Y2K, 04 and 08, which one might think as a complete opposite to Neocon, I recently found out that I am a Neocon because, I joined the GOP in 2011 to help Ron Paul win the GOP nomination and support Israel.

Second, this type of twist, appears to be happening on several levels, such as the LN, which now appears that the US did not participate, but, as I recall, states did. So in the past, while the US didn't as a whoke, state that did, for certain campaigns which became corporate, it was US, now it is not US and the corporate issues are standing apart.

Here's two I recall:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimson_Doctrine
wirds within: "It was not the first time that the U.S. had used non-recognition as a political tool or symbolic statement."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations_mandate
Words within: "The US government subsequently entered into individual treaties to secure legal rights for its citizens, to protect property rights and businesses interests in the mandates, and to preclude the mandatory administration from altering the terms of the mandates without prior US approval.[10]

(There were many parties from the USA involved in the LN, Grange was one on women's rights, and since the Grange is national, I saw the US participation as protecting those US organizations who were involved. Now I see that the US is it's own "business of government", and definitions, terms have taken a new meaning, at least to me).

I thank you for waking me up to my changing world, recognize that you are correct and hope you might understand,

I'm wearing an

Amerikan flag on my lapel. I'm here to help.

Help?

If you hate America, why not move to a place that makes you genuinly happy?

It's not fear, don't fool yourself or others

One of the first books my father, a super-duper professional warmonger for decades, gave me was, Sun Zue's, Art of War.

Art is a science, for one must master science to create the art within.

It's is not Muslims, or the factions, or Islam and it's Art History, it's not the customs or the food, or the dress, or the laws, all of that is accepted, and consumed with pleasure, amazement and amusement, no threat, no fear, WELCOME TO AMERICA; LIVE LONG AND PROSPER HERE in AMERICA.

It's the leadership that emerges from Islam when it meets the secular world, because Islam is a duopoly within itself. The good will do good, and the evil will murder, rape, beat, set up and destory their own, unlike any group known to mankind anywhere.

Is it not True that Mohhammad mudered Jews? Did he not three times wipe them off the face of the Mid East? Thus, if a Muslim is TRUELY aspirering to obtain honor, will they aspire to be like Mohammad?

Isn't this the real reason that there is not peace with Israel?

Yes.

This is the root.

But God, or you want, Allah.. ok, there is some uncanny unreasonable sense of justice that God owns and levels on humans.

For example, Iran has a new president, Hassan Rouhani, who has a son. Do you know of his son? This is what his son had to say:
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/06/18/i-hate-your-...

And the past Palestinian leader of Hammas.. do you know of his son and what he had to say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHbCGC6amdk

Is this the Art of War?

No.

The real Art of War does not speak of hate, it is more subtle. It is more like a UN Agenda. Without Islamic nations binding together in an effort to be THE GLOBAL RELIGION, there would not be a UN AGENDA. They have their part, and the Communist have theirs. Together, they rule the UN. They have two problems, the USA and Israel.

They tolerate the USA because the USA provides support in many ways, but they loathe Israel. It is this campaign against the only two nations that have freedom, that the two young men I showed you.. they came to know the USA and Israel, and they both came to WANT the USA and Israel because they tasted FREEDOM and it was what they wanted.

So they die. suicides.. they say.

As long as Islam ABETS and ENFORCES, SELLS OUT and WORKS TO CRUSH what freedom Americans have, in it's quest for ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, those who are in here in peace will sustain, just like any American despite the subtle threat alive and thriving in the UN.

The Art of War is a science, on how not to sleep. Too many Americans are already asleep, and they do not have an eye on Islam, they blame Israel, and you perpetuate that. Many do not want to see what those in the DP community see.. NO DIFFERENT than any Muslim who denys that Mohammad murdered Jews, and Muslims aspire to be like Mohammad, as Christians strive to be like Jesus.

Western and Eastern Art histories are full of war.. and they are beautiful works of art.. Masterpeices.

http://vimeo.com/38248902

On your conspiracy theory...

I find it interesting that you think Islam is the NWO. I wonder what other theories are out there. But anyways, isn't it interesting that Israel armed Hamas, the very group you cited as proof Islam was the reason people hate Israel, to divide the Palestinians? Then, when these pests and thugs actually gained real power through their polemic ideology of hate, which was, by that point, the only real opposition to Israel for many Palestinians since the PLO had been perceived as having stopped actively trying to achieve anything in substance, then suddenly they were terrorists, but before then, they were Israeli freedom fighters!

Furthermore, when Israel has been actively trying to dismantle Iran since the Ayatollah, and there are widespread sanctions, is it any wonder that the leaders there can just say that their troubles are the result of America and Israel? The sad fact is that it's true, but tyrants like Ahmedinajad can manipulate this to turn it to outright antisemitism. That isn't Islam's fault then, but a corrupted foreign policy.

And no, Muhammad didn't wipe Jews off the face of the Middle East three times.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

It is not THE NWO

I believe the UN lost it's way in 1961 when Communist and Islamic nations joined becoming the majority. Sovreity and indivialism are the losers, why America is losing it's constitution, why hundreds of resolutions are written against Israel.. the corporate secular modle and Islam religious model are both pluristic and both seek global dominance, and they have no problem working together to achieve this goal.. so communist rule the secular side and Islam rules the spiritual, it's a win win..

Yes he Muhammad did http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/islamtim...

How could a communist

How could a communist organization, bent on a one world government lose their way? they never were on the right track. It was not set up for any other goal except one world government.

OK

I see and agree. THANK YOU!

Here's my response to your source:

Firstly, they claim Muhammad murdered Jews for not converting to Islam in a timeline. Not specific at all or scholarly. At best, that claim is just that, a claim, rather than fact. Next, it talks about him murdering 600 Jews from the tribe "Banu Kurara." After doing some research, I couldn't find any tribe with that name, but the closest historical occurrence that is what they are likely referencing is what I already mentioned, the incident with the Banu Qurayza. Then, they mention the "Jewish tribe Kaibar." Khaybar, as it's properly spelled, is a city, and all tribes of the region have Banu in front of it, as that is tribe in Arabic. There was no "Banu Khaybar." However, there was a battle there, and I would like you to see what the Western scholar William Montgomery Watt had to say about it: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar

I presume these were the "three times Muhammad wiped the Jews from the Middle East," right? Simple reading would indicate that this source was completely wrong and wasn't even scholarly as a proper resource. It couldn't even spell or enunciate the words correctly, let alone cite sources or know cities from tribes. I hope this clears things up.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

My source is incorrect

And I can dig up far more, on top of that, I can show you plenty of vids where secular leaders of Islamic nations call for the elimination of Israel and show hostile agressive behavior.

Why did The Grand Mufti collaborate with Hitler?
Why was Persia renamed Iran/ Aryan?

As an American, I really don't care what religion you CHOSE, until you tell me that your religion is so great it TOLERATES others.

Where's the respect? Answer that.

By the way,

I intentionally divided all of my refutations of your post so that you couldn't twist my words or make a new contention rather than refute what I have to say. Also it's just much more convenient for me since I'm doing this on my accursed Samsung Galaxy S which crashes all the time. So when you refute what I have to say, respond to the specific claim I make rather than making one big, jumbled, confused and redundant argument.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

You are the twister of words

and you DIVIDE to win, not to explain, to wax as if you are supreme, which you are NOT. The fact you even try is pathetic display of how you work to entrap, and FORCE your will, in the name of Islam.

It's one thing to teach, for I am willing to be wrong.. but you do not teach as much as twist and rebuke because teaching is not your goal, being offended so you can attack is your goal.

I'm not here to stp you from finding and keeping your God. Nor am I here to be called a liar so you can attack me in the name of your God. I Love Israel and this is not going to change. You love your God and this is not going to change. What would be good is finding the peace. That takes love. I can find love for Islam in things perhaps you think of immaterial, the arts.. for one example.

You want to build on that, that is wonderful, you want to damn Israel, and me.. and attack us.. that will not dampen what I apprecation, the arts of islam, some of the customs, the foods, for for that which I find beautiful about Islam. It only makes me understand why Islam is not for me on a humane level.

((((The Granger)))))

I'm sorry I made you feel that way! That's not at all what I intended. When I said I'm dividing my arguments contention by contention, I only wanted to keep the discussion specific and focused. I have been trying to explain my position, but you keep on telling me I'm twisting words and then you make another argument, which I proceed to refute. I don't want to argue with you. I don't want to force you to be a Muslim. I don't want to be offended by you. I don't want to attack you in the name of my God. I have never downvoted any of your posts about Israel, nor have I responded negatively to them. I've tried to show you that Islam is peaceful and tolerant and you misinterpreted me every step of the way.

I hope you don't take this personally, because I never would want you to be upset with me! I greatly respect and admire you on here, and I think we need to calm down and start over!

I'm sorry I offended you!

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

((((((((Proud Libertarian))))))

I accept your apology. Furthermore, I appreciate your apology, not as a twisted excuse, but as genuine, thus I am grateful for your respect. Respect is earned, and you have earned my respect.

In addition, thank you for the hug. That is totally cool (((((((((((((Proud Libertarian Muslim))))))))))))))))))

Peace be with you, and between us.

On the subject of Persia being renamed Iran

I took it upon myself to do some research on that subject and found that Iran's etymology, first of all, has nothing to do with Islam. The word Iran first originated in the third century, and the original meaning of Aryan was "of the Iranians," rather than white, cultural supremacist, future Islamic overlord who will make every nonmuslim a slave and destroy freedom and liberty for all. If you want to read it for yourself, check out this wikipedia article. And check its references and edit it if you find it to be of error. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

From your source

The first dynasty in Iran formed during the Elamite kingdom in 2800 BC. The Iranian Medes unified Iran into an empire in 625 BC.[2]Cyrus the Great founded the First Persian Empire, or Achaemenid Empire (550–330 BC), which became the largest ancient empire and significantly contributed to both Eastern and Western civilizations. In 633 AD, Muslim armies invaded Iran, and had conquered the region by 651 AD.[21] The emergence in 1501 of the Safavid dynasty,[4] which promoted Twelver Shia Islam[22] as the official religion of their empire, marked one of the most important turning points in Iranian and Muslim history.[23] The Persian Constitutional Revolution established the nation's first parliament in 1906, within a constitutional monarchy. Following a coup d'état instigated by the UK and US in 1953, Iran gradually became a more autocratic country. Growing dissent with foreign influence culminated during the Iranian Revolution which led to the establishment of an Islamic republic on 1 April 1979.[15][24]

Iran is a founding member of the UN, NAM, OIC and OPEC. The political system of Iran, based on the 1979 constitution, combines elements of a parliamentary democracy with a religious theocracy run by the country’s clergy. The highest state authority is the Supreme Leader. Shia Islam is the official religion and Persian is the official language.
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notes Muslim armies invaded Iran, and had conquered the region by 651 AD YOU CALL THIS PEACE?

Growing dissent with foreign influence culminated during the Iranian Revolution which led to the establishment of an Islamic republic on 1 April 1979 This is PEACE to you???

So it was founded on RACISM.. STEALING THE GIFTS of those they TWIST with their Plurality "Supremeist".. giving them the AUDACITY to Lie, Cheat and Steal in the name of GOD.

That wasn't even the correct source!

You looked up Iran, the country, while I looked up Iran (Word) on wikipedia. The first time Iran was used to replace Persia officially as its name was when the Pahlavi dynasty took over in 1935. Furthermore, even you note the effect our foreign intervention had in radicalizing the Iranian people, and the same thing has been happening now for over a decade, and Ron Paul has been warning us about all of this. This is blowback. When in 1953, the US overthrew the secular, democratically elected leader, Muhammad Mossadeq, and imposed Shah Pahlavi in his place, all opposition was squashed. When there was no organized opposition to protect the Iranian people from the tyranny of the US backed dictatorship, there was a huge vacuum for radicalism to be sucked in. The so called "Ayatullah" then could take power and be seen as a hero against US backed oppression in the name of imperialism.

And I don't understand what was founded on racism. Which Persian Government? There were a great many of them, most of them, not Islamic. And pluralism doesn't even apply here, in any way, positive or negative. I don't understand what you mean when you say it was founded on supremacism either.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

OH MY GOD!

THE CRUSADES HAPPENED! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! THE INQUISITION HAPPENED! YOU CALL THIS PIECE?! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JEWS WERE KILLED DURING THE BLACK PLAGUE! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! THE BYZANTINES FORCIBLY EXPELLED JEWS FROM JERUSALEM! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! THE THIRTY YEARS' WAR AGAINST THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE HAPPENED! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! SERFDOM HAPPENED UNDER THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! CHRISTIANS COLONIZED AFRICA AND DESTROYED CENTURY OLD TRADITIONS AND CULTURES, MASSACRING MILLIONS OF AFRICANS! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS AND LATER CONQUERORS MASSACRED MILLIONS OF NATIVES, ALL IN THE NAME OF GOOD, GUNS, AND GLORY! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! THANKSGIVING IS CELEBRATED AS THE DAY PURITANS MASSACRED HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN WHO WERE INDIAN, STARTING A MASSIVE INDIAN WAR (OR ENDING IT. I CAN'T RECALL)! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT SYSTEMATICALLY

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

Continued

DISMANTLED THE WAY OF LIFE OF THE INDIAN PEOPLE, ASSASSINATING MILLIONS OF INDIANS, CONQUERING THEIR LAND, AND DESTROYING NEARLY EVERYTHING THEY REALLY VALUED! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! OUR GOVERNMENT PILLAGED AND LOOTED THE LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES FOR CORPORATE INTERESTS! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! OUR GOVERNMENT ENSLAVED AND DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR CENTURIES! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! OUR FOREIGN INTERVENTION OVERSEAS HAS LED TO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DEATHS ACROSS THE WORLD! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! ISRAEL HAS AGGRESSIVELY STOLEN LAND THROUGH VARIOUS WARS OVER TIME! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?! THE ISRAELIS BULLDOZE PALESTINIAN LAND TO CREATE NEW SETTLEMENTS! YOU CALL THIS PEACE?!

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

Native Americans, you mean MY heritage???

Since my father was born and raised on a reservation, I guess I can tell you what my people said about what happened, and please do not get me wrong, there was a Native American Nation that spanned ALL North America, and not all met with the same fates, or met the same pale faced settlers.. It was only a matter of time before some nation came to take the land and make claims on it, even Native American tribes constantly battled for lands.. it was better that it was America than Russia, and in the West, it could have been Russia, who came and took, and then left, only to return to take, wipe out otter, beaver, but the Americans in the big pictures gave opportunity for native Americans to join them, and many, like my family and many more did, and did very well.

My father did exceptionally well. Maybe it was his drive to be off the reservation? I've known many Native Americand on my own and though my father and the fact there was a common ground just being Native.. those who succeeded have no regrets about the past. Those who have regrets spend them as if they were their gold, lavishly.

Today it is the same thing with Native's casinos, some suceed and do very well, build golf courses, airports and have every luxury, doing far better than if the pale face never found America, while others can not get past the bar and rolling in the parking lot.

I think one thing about being native is the absolute that we are each individuals, completely different, and our biggest enemy is that which does not see us as individuals with different gidts and needs, rather than one unified mass all doing the same thing for the same thing.

Israels bulldoze Israeli himes that were built illegally by illegal contracts between Palestinians who know they can not sell their land and then do to desperate Jews who think they found a deal.. when the Palestinian reports the illegal settlement, Israel bulldozes it because they know it was a bad deal in the first place and they will not leave the home to the cheat.. who calls BBC to folm it for those who do not understand the whole truth..

Israel has a settlement problem.. 1.2 million Jews seeing Amnesty from Nations growing Islam.. Islam come in kind and pretends they want to belong, and then the begin fighting for Sharia law.. we have 32 states under attack right now.. as the Islamic population boombs they become less kind, and then they become outright hostile, even to each other.

I call Israel PEACE.. yes, because SOVREIGNITY gives people the power to be who and what they want.. your globalist agenda is NOT peace. And you know it.

As for the Grand Mufti...

of Jerusalem supporting Hitler, this in no way makes Islam violent because I could tell you about Pope Pius XII's collaboration with Nazis as well, along with the collaboration of several religious leaders in the Balkans who did the same thing. I could tell you the countless times oppression was made against the Jews by Christians, and still I don't think it's inherently violent. Would you like me to make a list of antisemitic events lead and endorsed by Christian priests and religious leaders or the advances Jews made under the Golden Age of Islam?

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com