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Pastor Authors Book Encouraging Government Leaders to ‘Obey God,’ Resist Tyranny

MILWAUKEE – A pastor from Wisconsin has authored a book advising state and municipal government leaders that when they are forced to make a choice between obeying God or the federal government, they must always obey God rather than men.

Matt Trewhella pastors Mercy Seat Christian Church in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and has long been a proponent of the lesser magistrate doctrine, which teaches that “when a higher authority makes an unjust law, the lower authority must resist it.” He says that he first became interested in the concept while considering the plight of the millions of unborn children that are aborted in the nation with the permission of state and local governments.

Trewhella believes that states civil government leaders should have resisted the ruling in Roe v. Wade and fought to protect innocent life within their borders.

“They should have defied the federal government and said, ‘We don’t care what the Supreme Court has ruled; this is an immoral, unjust law, and there will be no preborn babies slaughtered in our state,’” he said. “Unfortunately, of course that didn’t happen because people are ignorant of this doctrine.”

In Trewhella’s book, The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates, the non-denominational pastor outlines that the belief that leaders must obey God rather than man is not only sound in Scripture and is reflected throughout history, but it is also practical for the crossroads that Americans face today. He noted that some civil magistrates are already acting upon the doctrine whether they realize it or not.

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Most, if not ALL...

Most, if not all of, the bloodiest wars in history have been caused by Organized Religion in one form or another - "I'm gonna save your soul if I have to burn you at the stake to do it!"

You can have your One True God (whichever one it is - Yaweh, Allah, Cthulhu, The Great Roulette Wheel in the Sky, etc., etc., etc.), but you are expressly forbidden to use the force of government arms to coerce me into abiding by your own personal limitations.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

HOLY BALLS

that first paragraph is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I seriously lost brain cells just looking at that.

What's your standard for bloodiest wars? Top 5? Top 10? I can tell you this, the top two bloodiest wars (the World Wars, in case you couldn't figure that out) were headed up on every side by secular governments (in the case of the Nazis, also a weird pagan-themed cult of the state, the Soviets and Italians a normal cult of the state). The War for Southern Independence involved two secular combatants. Nearly every invasion by the British since the 1700s involved a secular government invading a disorganized primitive land.

And, of course, I can already see where you're going to go. You're going to bring up "TEH EVEHL MIDDEHL AYGES" and ramble about how EVIL they all were and how the EVIL church started all the wars.

BS and you know it. Were there religious wars? Oh, yes. A lot of them, however, were bull-crap disputes over territory, inheritance, succession, and all that crap. But, of course, you were going to argue that because there was EVIL ORGANIZED RELIGION present and active, it was by association the fault of EVIL ORGANIZED RELIGION, never mind stupid politics and stupid heads of state.

Same goes for the ancient Middle East. Here's the thing - historically, wars go something like this. Big Nation wants Little Nation's territory. Little Nation says no. Big Nation invades to get territory, and happens to also go "my gods are better than your gods!" And, of course, because they say that, you and your kind call it a "religious war" when in fact it was a king with a bloated ego who really wanted more territory, because territory = tax revenue.

Was this post really condescending? Yup, and I fully intended it. I can forgive ignorance easily, and your claim was NOT ignorance. It was a load of crap, you are fully aware it is a load of crap, and you insist on massaging actual history to fit your dishonest position.

Ignorance can be educated away, stupidity has to be exposed to get rid of it.

Infinitely Preferable

I'd WAY rather they follow the Constitution.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

there is no greater tyranny

Than the idea of god, the practice of worshiping god (king of kings), and heaven.

Jury Nullification is a power of the last resort against tyranny.

If God didn't exist, then you'd be right. However, if He is

truly our creator, than tyranny comes when we listen to and believe His arch enemy--Satan, the destroyer of our souls and lives.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

HOW IN THE BLUE HELL

did you come up with this "logic"? I'm interested.

Jury Nullification is a power of the last resort against tyranny.

hm

If we are to obey god where are his marching orders? In books written by humans and misinterpreted and cherry picked for thousands of years?

Which God?

Just wondering which God that government officials should base their decisions on.

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Only one

There is only one true and living God. All other "gods" are made up. Now you know.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

If there are 100 religions with 100 different Gods,

and only one true religion, then the odds are 99 out of 100 that a religion is false. How do you know your God it the true god with such bad odds against you?

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Odds are irrelevant

The "odds" are irrelevant. What matters is truth. And the truth is that Jesus raised Himself from the dead, which is how Christians know they worship the true and living God. All other Gods are non-existent.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

Denise B's picture

Whether it is 100

religions, or 10,000 religions doesn't matter, because no matter how many exist, only one can be correct. If you are given a multiple choice question with 50 possible answers to pick from, does the quantity of potential answers mean that there is no correct answer? Do you know what differentiates Christianity from every single other religion that has existed since the beginning of recorded history? Every single other religion that exists says that you can earn your way into Heaven, but Christianity is the only one that says that you can't. Because of the corrupt nature of mankind (just look at what is happening in our own country and all countries since the beginning of history for proof of man's propensity for sin and wrongdoing), we are incapable of earning salvation and it is received only through God's grace as a gift for those who are humble enough and wise enough to accept to it. All other religions say that you have to earn your way there through good works and sacrifice (sometimes even of your own children), but Christianity recognizes that no matter how much good you think you have done, it can never undo the sins you have committed against a holy and righteous God who, because of His justice, MUST punish sin, or he fails to be just (in the same way that a judge who lets a convicted criminal go free would also be considered unjust).

Every other god in every other religion throughout the entire world requires "good works" and sacrifice to earn grace and ultimately salvation, except Christianity. The God of Christianity is the only God who, instead of demanding sacrifice from us, freely offered Himself as a sacrifice for us as atonement for our sins. Christianity is also the only religion which opens itself up to examination, and offers eye witness testimony as evidence of its truth. Many of the New Testament Gospels and writings have been dated to within the timeframe of the people that wrote them. They talk about real people and real places and real events and had they not been truthful they never would have gained any traction, especially because there were entire groups of people living at the time that could have easily discredited it (jewish pharisees, etc.) who would have gladly done so immediately if they could have. Christianity is also the only religion who's emergence was monumental enough that it actually shifted the entire dating of world history (i.e B.efore C.hrist and A.D., which references the time after Christ). Pretty monumental shift for a group of guys who decided to get together and make a up a story.

Also, I am so tired of hearing about how all major wars throughout history happened because of religion, when that quite simply is not true. What religion was Stalin? or Hitler? of Mao?,..what about the Civil War? What about the Revolutionary War? What about WWI? The truth is that far more wars have been started simply by evil men with evil ambitions that had nothing to do with religion and certainly were not worshippers of the God of the Bible. No where in the New Testament are Christians admonished to start wars against non-believers as a means to convert them, or punish them for not being Christian....in fact, quite the opposite is true, so any wars that were waged at all in the "name of Christianity" as a means to convert people or punish them for not believing were waged by people who were not following the very doctrines they claimed to be attempting to further.

What she said

Good job.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

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Thanks!

There are few things more frustrating to me than when people who have never read the bible (or were incapable of understanding what they were reading if they did) make ridiculous statements and assertions, or take things completely out of context and use it to disrespect or insult Christians, or even worse, their Creator. "But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone. Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the Lord our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season..." Jeremiah 5:23-34

They can't understand

But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 1Co 2:14

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

bump--

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it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Christian Libertarianism....

is legit!

The pastor is correct

There is a great falsehood in our culture that it's somehow okay to allow evil laws and corruption to exist, just because blind obedience to authority has been engrained in us since kindergarten. However, what we should be unfailingly obedient to is God (or, for those who cringe at the idea, truth, righteous principles, all that is right and good in the world, etc) and His commandments.

Definitely seems like a good book worth buying. The idea that those of lower authority being in the right to defy their higher-ups when those higher-ups are doing wrong, ought to be supported.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Not easy...

How do you define the truth about if a woman is raped if she should or shouldn't have an abortion? It's not easy.

And isn't there some irony in advocating the government base policies on the Christian God and then your signature quoting someone who'd essentially be considered an atheist today?

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Extremely easy

though not at all pleasant. Fact is, killing the baby is simply adding another victim, one who has done nothing wrong.

There's no irony, either. All truth is God's truth, no matter where it comes from. Gandhi was no Christian, but he had wise things to say. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, but he, too, had a great store of wisdom.

By that same token, all lies are Satan's lies, ESPECIALLY the false god of the all-powerful State.

Pretty sure that Thomas Paine

Pretty sure that Thomas Paine would take great offense to you claiming his brilliance was the Christian God's "truth".

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However, what we should be

However, what we should be unfailingly obedient to is God (or, for those who cringe at the idea, truth, righteous principles, all that is right and good in the world, etc) and His commandments.

Excellent comment.

This topic calls to my mind the Thomas Jefferson quote:

I swear upon the alter of God eternal hostility against the enemies of the mind of man.

Wow. What a quote, what a statement. I wonder if Mr. J noticed this characteristic about the words God and mind: The significance of God and significance of mind are the same significance: They deny subtractions and additions to the innate states of life and they take place before, with and after action.

It appears to me God and mind are synonymous. Thinking man A and thinking man B share the same path to understanding X but conclude differently about X must respect each other. Mmmmm. Interesting. I'm going to continue pondering this observation.

Addition: A difference between God and mind is location: One is external and one is internal. I think one of them necessitates freedom and one of them leads to, not necessitates, where man is now, corruption, man ruling man. *thinking*

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

The contractor is always higher than the sub-contractor

And We, The People, heirs of our forefathers faith and works; gave a portion our our vast authority, under our Creators providence, and by our representative stewardship; established a constitution which narrowly-defined those limited powers and jealously guarded our state and individual rights, right?...Or, so, we thought!

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

It is much more likely that man created God than any God

created man. Look at all the Gods over the ages that men have conjured up in their minds to then worship and beg.

Given that man created God, his laws, and secular laws, I don't see how one could be higher than the other. Since government has the guns, I bet people will obey government laws a lot quicker than the laws they ascribe to their particular God.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

The contractor is still higher than the sub - God or not!

It's just by matter of degrees. If there is no One higher than man, as you assume, then the distance between contractor and sub-contractor is only measured by who is willing to use force first to have their way, eh?

There are those who know and understand that there is, in fact, a living God, Who opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble, regardless of what theologians and tyrants say contrariwise. I believe Ron Paul is among them, as am I; but you, of course, are welcome to stake your claims on a higher reasoning in whatever philosophy works for you. Just wondering, how well is that working to persuade others?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I am not interested in persuading others.

It takes no energy to not believe something. It takes energy to maintain a story which is why believers like to congregate, convert others, and often dislike nonbelievers because when some disbelieve the story is upsetting to believers. Disbelief threatens the very identity of a believer because one's religion becomes a major part of his identity

Unlike believers, I have no need to persuade others about any particular view of the origin of the universe. I don't know with certainty how it came into existence if in fact there ever was a beginning, but I know that an opinion based on evidence and reason is going to give the best estimate, and certainly a belief based on myth cooked up by Middle Eastern tribesmen, lack of evidence, and sustained by fear and indoctrination is low on the probability scale.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.