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3x4=11 Under New Common Core

Communist Core... I mean Common Core... Rolls out this school year. And wrong answers in math are just fine as long as the student comes up with a good reasoning for finding that incorrect solution. The emphasis will be on the "how" and not the final answer.

I'm starting to think our "leaders" don't have our best interest at heart??? (sarcasm).


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In other words, they are

In other words, they are training our young students to think like lawyers.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

To Be Fair...

I am not well studied on the common core standards...

But in that video she explained that "There will be a strong focus on the child's ability to explain their reasoning, rather than just correct answers."

Which actually sounds good.

Would you rather hire a person that has excellent skills in explaining their reasoning, and has strong reasoning skills? Or someone who cannot reason, just points to a calculator?

And in the video, an audience member says "we will correct them right?" And she says "Of course. But we want them to be able to explain WHY the answer is twelve. Instead of just focusing on correct answers."

This actually is a sound theory.

Common core has it's

Common core has it's advocates, and it might be good for transient kids who have to move from public school to public school in that the curriculum would be standard, but my big objection is that it's a one size fits all sort of idea, where local control over education is abandoned in favor of a national approach.

It's a great idea if we want a nation of propagandized robots.

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I think we're already thoroughly propagandized

I don't know how much more apathetic and brainwashed our citizenry could be; I feel it is nearly as bad as can be.

Since I am an anarchist, I don't even support the public education model, or support that public education is paid for by taxes. I feel a free market would offer several models of education for families to choose from, most of them far better than what is offered in Amerika "for free."

So it would not make sense for me to quibble over the details, when I think the whole system is incorrect, not just details.

Considering we are already saturated with propaganda... I think the common core may have some benefits to the teachers. Currently, each state has its own curriculum, pace, and sequence of teaching material. And they all teach basically the same thing. It is like having 50 versions of the dictionary; they all say the same things, with slightly different wording.

If I teach in Texas, and I am looking for teaching ideas, and I find some great materials from Michigan; those materials will most likely not pertain to my state exam, be out of context and sequence, and not be approved by members of my school.

Under a single curriculum, as a teacher, I could find ideas from all over the country, and feel quite safe using them, and feel safe knowing that the materials fit into the right part of the year for me.

So while I don't like the socialist notion behind Common Core, I can see some benefits for teachers, and then for the students.

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disingenuously reported, cut out "absolutely will correct them"

if wrong.


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New Math

Obama obviously stole his idea from the old New Math of the late 50s and early 60s.

Here, the great Tom Lehrer explains New Math to us. This was before a live audience, with the youtube poster adding his own video.


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Orwell for sure.

"We our students to understand that 4x3=12 because the state has shown that to be true. It's important that the state gains the recognition for these problems."

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

Orwell for sure.

"We our students to understand that 4x3=12 because the state has shown that to be true. It's important that the state gains the recognition for these problems."

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

Wow, one of Orwell's predictions I honestly DIDN'T expect

I keep seeing the phrase "1984 was not an instruction manual." But holy !@#$! Is there anything in 1984 they AREN'T actively pushing?


The phrase "two plus two equals five" ("2 + 2 = 5") is a slogan used in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four[1] as an example of an obviously false dogma one may be required to believe, similar to other obviously false slogans by the Party in the novel. It is contrasted with the phrase "two plus two makes four", the obvious—but politically inexpedient—truth. Orwell's protagonist, Winston Smith, uses the phrase to wonder if the State might declare "two plus two equals five" as a fact; he ponders whether, if everybody believes it, does that make it true? The Inner Party interrogator of thought-criminals, O'Brien, says of the mathematically false statement that control over physical reality is unimportant; so long as one controls their own perceptions to what the Party wills, then any corporeal act is possible, in accordance with the principles of doublethink ("Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once").

Ew, 2+2=5 is no good, but

Ew, 2+2=5 is no good, but 3x4=11 will be great for the deficit!

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There is a reason and proof why numbers are a 100% absolute mathematical constant.

Sounds like BistroMath...


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