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Rand Paul "Room in the Party for those who believe in bigger government"

On Sunday, Fox News host John Roberts asked Rand Paul if he wanted to try to defuse the situation.

“What I would say is the party’s big enough for both of us,” the Kentucky Republican replied. “This all started with him saying, we don’t have room for libertarian Republicans. The thing is, that’s how we grow our party.”

“But, again, do you agree with your father when he says Gov. Christie offers nothing?” Roberts pressed.

“What I would say is there’s room for people who believe in bigger government in our party,” Rand Paul insisted. “Some of the things he seems to have promoted makes us believe that, well, he thinks there’s a lot more spending that can go on. I think that national defense is a priority for our country. The only way we have enough money for national defense is actually to be very, very frugal with other spending. And that is a valid disagreement we have.”

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Yeah some of you are right

Yeah some of you are right on. Rand's secret is to play the game of politics and then one day he'll show his true colors.. Just like Huckabee, McCain, Graham.. they are all just playing the game until one day they will expose the NWO...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

The One way To tell A Zebra

Is by his stripes. They cannot change, even though he would wish as hard as he could.
Mike Huckabee, Lindsey graham, and John 'songbird' McCain are OBVIOUS 'party apparachicks'. ASK each one if they support 'USAPATRIOT'. better still, look at their VOTING RECORDS!

'ONE DAY, they will 'expose the NWO''!!!
GOD, the IGNORANCE of the comment by Brian Middleton is absolutely ASTOUNDING!

Oh, yeah, I DISAGREE with you, and I AM a libertarian! DISAGREE? NO, I am utterly BESIDE MYSELF WITH HILARITY that you, a supposed 'libertarian', would even CONSIDER making the statement you do!

Damn, skippy, go back and smoke another 'HOPIUM' bowl!

Nice try, RNC.


Starting With "The Keating Five"

Yeah, that's a good one.
McCain was one of the 'Keating Five'.
Nuts and bolts:

Should I go on to talk about the other two 'people'?


You left out the part...

...that states, unlike Rand, those other guys can't even SPELL 'libertarian'.


great way to pigeon hole Christie into the big government crowd. ha ha ha great job Rand

That is not called a pidgeonhole. For his size, he needs a...

"Christiehole" to fit.. ;P

No one can pidgeonhole Chris Christie...

On account of he's so fat.

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.

heh, his belly button is a

heh, his belly button is a pigeon hole. more of a bird bath.

if you want liberty ...

then the liberty party has to grow to be a consensus.

How do we do that?

We start inside the party and then we continue outside the party.

"Come on in. We think you are great. Your basic principles are good. There are some issues that we disagree on such as Foreign policy, monetary policy, and civil liberty issues. Let's discuss and see if we can sell you on those issues."

"Come on in. We think you are great. We disagree with your basic principles but we agree on some key issues such as civil liberties and foreign policy and crony capitalism. Let's discuss and see if we can sell you on our basic principles."

Are we beginning to understand Rand?

Rand is better than Ron.

The guy knows his shit.

God Bless.

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Not sure if Rand is better than Ron, I look at it like

Ron is the steering wheel & Rand is the engine - can't have one without the other.

We are the gas pedal and there's tons of fuel.

Rand is opening the door for anyone to come in and enjoy the ride.

Yep, Rand's working the room, and...

...while most everyone in the room (I'm talking about the blue-haired ladies and old men, who decide RP primaries) is thinking about how Rand, after a performance like this, is so nice and reasonable and welcoming, Christie is stewing in the corner over being branded, again, for bigger government.

Sheer brilliance.

Heh. Room in the party? Half

Heh. Room in the party? Half those at the top believe in bigger government..argh. Sure do hate this comment. Rand is getting more like a regular politician each day. Or..maybe he mean there is a ROOM in the party where we can lock the big government guys up..if not, soon he will be offering a chicken in every pot if you become Republican..sheesh..

Oh, that Rand Paul kid, he

Oh, that Rand Paul kid, he just say the darndest things.... he didn't listen to his dad...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

No he listened alright. But his simple zig zag strategy confuses

you .... don't let that fool you.

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a circular arguement

spinning quite too fast I'd say
slow down bucko

BR (Before Rand)

Political parties USED to STAND for something. ;) For the umpteenth time, we MUST eliminate political parties as they're simply a vehicle for control. The best means for encouraging inclusiveness is abolishing artificial constructions like political parties which simply serve to divide and conquer. Let principle and character, not party and loyalty, be our guide.

There is room for the big government Republicans at the party

In a van down by the river! LOL

Clever Freudian Slip

Rand is a master of verbal acrobatics. He was starting to say "Big Republicans" but he caught himself fast enough to include the word "Government" in the phrase.

Gene Louis
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

Christie certainly is a "big Republican"

I would even question his ability to make it up the ramp on air force one. If he ever lost his footing and rolled down that ramp it would give a whole new visual to his nick name "governor wrecking ball"

Not a quote one would want to

Not a quote one would want to be associated with, but hopefully next time he is more prepared with an answer.

That wasn't my impression at all

Who in the MSM or GOP is going to accuse Rand of being a friend to big government? No one. Who's going to run to the right if Rand in 2016? No one. No, Velveeta, that quote reflects on *Christie*. That whole segment of the interview was abut Rand politely rebranding Gov Porkchop as the big government fella he is.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

An unfortunate statement,

An unfortunate statement, though he did well in the rest of the interview.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Perfectly put

He called Christie a 'big government' guy, as well as coming across as tolerant and inclusive. Please remember, those that are for big government are so because they aren't aware of the dangers...yet. In the same sentence Rand gave libertarians a reason to deny Christie and at the same time for the establishment accept Rand. Surely we must all keep a close eye on Rand, as well as all those that are elected to represent the will of the people, but dang what's up with the knee jerk reactions!? Are we incapable of reading between the lines, are we not able to see Rand's intent? We must always be critical, so as not to moved by a wolf in sheep's clothing, but come on people, let's take a deep breath. At least that's how I see it


Rand slit Christie's throat...

...while smiling.


How??? By saying he is

How??? By saying he is welcoming BIG GOVERNMENT republicans? Where are his principles?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...


In every post in here I'm seeing you make, you're only reacting to the one part of what he said, and not to the rest.

Sure there's room for big government republicans in the party, as it is the republican party, it's just that they disagree on this issue and they aren't going to be seen as fiscally conservative. It just means Christie get further branded as a RINO.

This is him looking like a nice guy while beating Christie with a stick. It makes him look friendly and welcoming. This makes him look less like a fanatic and more appealing to the public.

Eric Hoffer

Remember the question...

...and the context.

He was asked, twice, whether he agreed with Ron's statement that Christie "offers nothing".

As has been consistent with the manner in which he's addressed 'Christie' in the last week or so, he first talks about the growing the RP, "there's room for both of us", "it was a mistake to criticize libertarian Republicans", etc., but the interviewer pressed him on it.

Rand's been trying to douse the feud, be "the adult in the room", so instead of overtly bashing Christie and fanning the flames (and coming across as less 'presidential', less a 'team-player'), he brilliantly colors Christie as "for bigger government" while maintaining the 'kumbaya', everyone's welcome veneer.

Masterfully conflicting, in an interview that otherwise clearly delineated his positions on a variety of topics.

Let Ron, and other surrogates, bluntly and harshly characterize Christie "offering nothing", while Rand plays the adult, at least intermittently.

Ha, ha, this has gotta be the

Ha, ha, this has gotta be the funniest thing I have heard in 5 years!

Thomas Jefferson 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Rand Paul 2016, 2020.

room for those who believe in bigger government???

no shit, that is the party. From the leadership all the way to the bottom is people who believe in bigger government, with the small exception of a few who have to bend over backwards to not offend the cult of state worship that is the republican party.

I get what Rand was trying to do, but I think he could do it more effectively. Don't say, there is room, point out that they dominate the party, chris christy is the norm. THEN highlight how, for balance, it would be nice to have opinion from those who believe in less government.

The slippery slope continues

If Rand said this a year ago, many here would be indignant. Today, however, it doesn't seem so bad. It's not that dissimilar from other things he has said in the past, and it's only to grow his support and not antagonize establishment Republicans. But that's how they get you, little by little, until you are defending big government. They have all the time in the world. All they want is a tiny little concession right now.

"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
"The Perfect Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit; the Sage has no fame." - Chuang Tzu