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The 99% Interrupts the Salad Course at a Lindsey Graham Fundraiser

All that was missing was pitchforks and torches.

On December 8th, 2011, protestors with Take Back the Capitol walked right into Lindsey Graham's private fundraiser to make sure he wasn't just hearing the voices of the 1%. We told him our stories and made sure he listened.


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Enumeration - Not Fairness.

One has to remember not to fall into the traps of "Fairness" and "Jealousy"; The Founders, as mentioned in my earlier Post, Delegated "Enumerated Taxation" as to "WHAT" we were to be Consensually taxed for BEFORE the tax was even collected; and LIMITED to "those things" we DELEGATED (ALLOWED) them to tax us for.

Then you reserve consent and the tax low and it reduces the "Burden" of the tax (which is always paid through products by those that cannot "write it off" or "add it" to the price on their goods and services.

The issues are Delegated powers, Spending and Enumeration.

An example, the Welfare Clause was limited by the Delegated Power of Collecting taxes for the National Defense and the National Debt, PERIOD. NOTHING ELSE.

This was established clearly in the Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788: In Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

George Mason:

"....And shall the support of our rights depend on the bounty of men "whose interest it may be to oppress us"? That Congress should have power to provide for the general welfare(APP Note: Defense against "Foreign" aggression) of the Union, I grant.

But I wish a clause in the Constitution, with respect to ALL powers which are NOT granted, that they are retained by the states.

Otherwise, the power of providing for the "GENERAL WELFARE" may be "PERVERTED TO ITS DESTRUCTION"."

Mr. GEORGE NICHOLAS, in reply to the gentlemen opposed to the clause under debate, went over the same grounds, and developed the same principles, which Mr. Pendleton and Mr. Madison had done. The opposers of the {443} clause, which gave the power of providing for the general welfare, supposed its dangers to result from its connection with, and extension of, the powers granted in the other clauses. He endeavored to show the committee that it only empowered Congress to make such laws as would be necessary to enable them to pay the public debts and provide for the common defence;

>that this "GENERAL WELFARE" was united, "NOT" to "the general power of legislation", but to the >"PARTICULAR" power> of laying and collecting taxes, imposts, and excises, >>>FOR THE "PURPOSE" of paying the "DEBTS" and providing for the "COMMON DEFENSE", that is, that they could raise (ONLY) as "MUCH" MONEY as would pay the "DEBTS" and provide for the "COMMON DEFENSE", in "CONSEQUENCE OF THIS POWER".

The clause which was affectedly called the sweeping clause contained"NO new grant of power". To illustrate this position, he observed that, if it had been added at the end of every one of the enumerated powers, instead of being inserted at the end of all, it would be obvious to any one that it was "NO" augmentation of power.If, for instance, at the end of the clause granting power to lay and collect taxes, it had been added that they should have power to make necessary and proper laws to lay and collect taxes, who could suspect it to be an addition of power? As it would grant "NO" new power if inserted at the end of each clause, it could not when subjoined to the whole.

He then proceeded thus: But, says he, who is to determine the extent of such powers? I say, the same power which, in all well-regulated communities, determines the "extent" of "legislative" powers. If they exceed these powers,the"JUDICIARY" will declare it "VOID", or else "the PEOPLE" will have a "RIGHT" to declare it "VOID". Is this depending on any man? But, says the gentleman, it may go to any thing. It may destroy the trial by jury; and they may say it is necessary for providing for the general defence. The power of providing for the general defence only extends to raise any sum of money they may think necessary, by taxes, imposts, But, says he, our only defence against oppressive laws consists in the virtue of our representatives. This was misrepresented.

If I understand it right, NO "NEW" POWER can be exercised."

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Changing the DELEGATED power of ENUMERATED taxation for which the amount is decided BEFORE BEING COLLECTED;

... Into a UN-ENUMERATED, UNLIMITED Flat percentage tax from income-sales-property etc. Taken FIRST and then deciding what to do with the money;

Is a "NEW" POWER. and EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED, as it EXCEEDS THE DELEGATED POWERS.

The Original Constitution was written to safeguard against such corruption and abuse of power. All taxation had to be ENUMERATED BEFORE CONSENSUALLY being collected, it was also derived from imports, collected simply from viewing the finished product; so your business affairs, income and papers were private:

COMPARE:

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Original Constitution:

Article 1 Section 9: "No Capitation, or OTHER direct, Tax shall be laid, "UNLESS" in "Proportion to the Census or "ENUMERATION" herein "BEFORE" directed to be taken. "

....This allows you the time and means to grant your "CONSENT" before it is "taken".

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Amended Constitution:

Amendment XVI: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and "WITHOUT REGARD" to any census of "ENUMERATION"."

The Federal Government Takes your money FIRST in a "FLAT" PERCENT ...THEN decides what THEY are going to spend it on "AFTER" they TAKE IT. ......"WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT".

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See Earlier post for more links.

Learn More on our "APP Opposition Issues Page"!
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/appoppositionissues/Fair_...

Review also The Constitutional "A" Tax.
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/patriottax

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John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

People screaming "tax the

People screaming "tax the rich" are either idiots, ignorant or simply tyrants. Targeting one group over the other is wrong. All people should be taxed at the same rate. As it is, the rich pay the overwhelming majority of all taxes. That is not equal treatment under the law. When we allow government to target one group over the other because of our envy it allows them to go after other groups.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

I'm embarrassed

That I participated in OWS, 99% activism when it all started. At the beginning the enemy was clear: the FED, big banks, crony capitalism... Now they just want to steal from others!

It used to be about an exchange of new ideas, that just sounded like an ad from the DNC.

Bump.

Bump.

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

Anyone calling for more taxes is a nutjob

This scene looks like a Rovian (as in a Karl Rove reverse divide and conquer logic) maneuver by Graham.

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

The Problem is - Taxing the Wealthy Only Taxes the Poor Harder

The issues are UN-enumerated Taxation and State born Exclusive Privileges such as Corporations, Unions, Tax supported Special Interests and Un-delegated (under the Original Constitutional Compact) Federal and State Bureacracies;

http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

More importantly is that it is NOT WHO pays the Tax; But WHAT the Tax is collected CONSENSUALLY FOR.

Taxing the 1% through any UN-enumerated flat percentage tax (on income, sales or property - this includes a national flat or the Fairtax), Simply allows the 1% to become tax collectors as it places the tax on products from the consumer then HANDS THE TAX COLLECTED FROM THE CONSUMER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT..... Then say 'Look how much tax we pay"; It's all for show on both Corporate Neocon Republicans and Democrats;

They both use the jealousy factor to confuse.

When we tax as the founders intended.... For VERY LIMITED federal government DEFINED LIMITED PURPOSES;

Then the SPENDING IS LIMITED;

Then the ENUMERATED TAX was established and CONSENSUALLY granted BEFORE it was Collected.

The Original Constitution was written to safeguard against such corruption and abuse of power. All taxation had to be ENUMERATED BEFORE CONSENSUALLY being collected, it was also derived from imports, collected simply from viewing the finished product; so your business affairs, income and papers were private:

COMPARE:

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Original Constitution:

Article 1 Section 9: "No Capitation, or OTHER direct, Tax shall be laid, "UNLESS" in "Proportion to the Census or "ENUMERATION" herein "BEFORE" directed to be taken. "

....This allows you the time and means to grant your "CONSENT" before it is "taken".

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Amended Constitution:

Amendment XVI: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and "WITHOUT REGARD" to any census of "ENUMERATION"."

The Federal Government Takes your money FIRST in a "FLAT" PERCENT ...THEN decides what THEY are going to spend it on "AFTER" they TAKE IT. ......"WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT".

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Can you SEE THE NECESSITY of ENUMERATED TAXATION!!! ...The Founders did!!

SEE THE ARROGATED POWER?!

Such ARROGATED POWER, That is, Changing ENUMERATED Taxation a DELEGATED Power;

Into UN-ENUMERATED Taxation, a UNDELEGATED Power that was Expressly Prohibited:

See in FULL: Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

SUCH "UN-ENUMERATED" "FLAT PERCENTAGE" TAXATION TAKEN CONTROL OF FIRST, WHERE CONSENT IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO BE OF ANY EFFECT, CAN "NEVER" BE "CONSTITUTIONAL";

AND "RATIFYING" SUCH TAXATION, CAN NEVER BE MADE TO "AMEND" THE CONSTITUTION.

NO MATTER HOW MANY STATES "RATIFY IT"!.

NO MATTER WHAT YOU NAME IT.

NOTE: The income tax was found unconstitutional twice by the Supreme Court before corruption entered and renamed a direct tax a "indirect tax" and used as an excuse to arrogate new powers expressly prohibited - It is in fact still unconstitutional and still an new arrogated power; Further, ALL taxes are DIRECT; a "INDIRECT" tax is simply a "DIRECT" tax taken from you in a different way or made to be taken from you by someone else first -

Redefining a tax as indirect is NO EXCUSE to tax you without your CONSENT or as a means to arrogate a taxing and spending power beyond the very limited DELEGATED powers.

See "Declaration of Independence" - "17th Grievance" Quote below defining Taxation without CONSENT is TYRANNY.

In Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/independence

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If the federal government stayed within their delegated powers, funding the necessary expenditures and paying the national debt and national defense would be easy.

Force the federal government stay within the limited DELEGATED powers; Force them by not funding them to be wasteful, manipulative and tyrannical;

Stop paying for your own enslavement and destruction.

Stop allowing State born Exclusive Privileges; Get Unions, Corporations and Tax Supported Special Interests out of Government.

Remove ALL Lobbyists from Washington DC. Limit them to your states where they must confront the local citizens of the state and not manipulate our state representatives in our national government in places far distant from the citizens that are most effected by any legislation.

Reduce the size of states so that there is adequate representation and not the manipulative government which occurs from "Distant Legislatures";

"NULLIFICATION" is "the proper remedy" when delegated powers have been exceeded.

See Thomas Jefferson shows us this "BY EXAMPLE" Kentucky Resolutions only a page and a half - CLICK AND READ IT!

http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/candidates

See also our Segment "Republics and Representation".

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"REMOVE THE INCOME TAX" and REPLACE IT WITH "NOTHING" - "MAKE" THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT "OBEY THE CONSTITUTION" AS IT WAS "FIRST WRITTEN"!

SAY "NO" TO ANY NEW TAX SCHEME!

TAKING MONEY WITHOUT CONSENT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR LAWS; IT IS TYRANNY, THEFT AND CRIME.

"NULLIFICATION" "FORCES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OBEY YOUR CONSENT" - USE IT.

ENFORCE THE RIGHT BY ENGAGING THE STATE AND COUNTY LAWS AND LOCAL JUDICIAL / POLICE FORCE.

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Declaration of Independence
In Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/independence

The 17th Grievance Defining TYRANNY in Government:

17.) For imposing taxes on us "WITHOUT" "OUR" "CONSENT";

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Taking money in a FLAT PERCENT FIRST, by ANY METHOD (income, sales etc.),

Then deciding how "they" (the government) will spend your money later, when there is "LITTLE or NO MEANS to say NO";

Can in "NO MEANS" be considered "consent".

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Learn More on our "APP Opposition Issues Page"!
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/appoppositionissues/Fair_...

Review also The Constitutional "A" Tax!
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/patriottax

Educate Yourself. Educate Others.

American Patriot Party.CC
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc

See the need for Smaller States for more adequate representation.
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

APP Now on Facebook:
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RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

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This is no joke : Self-Taxing France

This is no joke :

Self-Taxing France

http://www.dailypaul.com/296248/self-taxing-france

'Nuff said.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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Do some at OWS want the same for America?

Do some at OWS want the same for America?

I don't.

W T F :

http://youtu.be/v0PPWwZTKSg

How about they get A FREAKING CLUE, some day?

I'm getting really sick and tired of this sort of morons, now.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Tax the rich...what a solution!

That senator is one of the worst war mongers we have, and no one protests that? Why don't the OWS douche bags protest the government TAKING our money to kill people, trample our rights, and hand out sweetheart deals to their buddies?

All they can come up with is: tax the rich? Then the government can spend a little more and everything will be just fine I guess.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

Did you notice at 27 seconds in, the guy sitting to Grahams left

nonchalantly removed his name tag. What a punk...

the so called 99%

are government loving bullies

https://twitter.com/#!/Agonzo1

Which side do you support? Easy to tell.

Do you have more than most people? Are you in the top 1%? Do you reasonably aspire be in the top 1%? (Or at least in the top 10%)?

Then you likely hate Occupy Wall Street more than even you hate the Banksters.

If you are further down the ladder then you likely identify with OWS more.

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I look at individuals and their records. 'All I care about.

I look at individuals and their records. 'All I care about.

For instance, I like this OWS kid young man, very much, for, besides heart, he also has a brain, a memory, AND knows how to actually put all three of them TO WORK :

[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosbank#Foundation ]


http://youtu.be/yfHWChrsYfk

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Bump.

Bump.

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

that guy is

great.

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy
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Thoreau: "For a thousand striking at the branches of evil, ..."

Henry David Thoreau:

"For a thousand striking at the branches of evil, there is only one striking at the roots."

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How to Identify Legal Plunder :

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G020

But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime [...] If such a law — which may be an isolated case — is not abolished immediately, it will *spread*, *multiply*, and *develop* into *a system*.

The person who profits from this law *will complain bitterly*, defending his acquired rights. He will claim that the state is obligated to protect and encourage his particular industry; that this procedure enriches the state because the protected industry is thus able to spend more and to pay higher wages to the poor workingmen.

Do not listen to this sophistry by vested interests. The acceptance of these arguments will build legal plunder into a whole system. In fact, this has already occurred. The present-day *delusion* is an attempt to enrich everyone at the expense of everyone else; to make plunder *universal* under the pretense of *organizing* it [...]

(*emphasis* mine)

...

'Nuff said.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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Can some OWS folks read English?

Can some OWS folks read English?

Or do I have to put it in French, also, with the emphasis put at... THE SAME *FREAKING* PLACES?

Just wondering.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I think a manager just lost his job

or should have.. it's not about Graham.. it's about the golden rule.

OWS

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong. So OWS thinks the greedy power-hungry psychopathic totalitarian politicians they despise can be protested into increasing taxes on their rich banker and corporate allies that got them elected (and reward them handsomely with insider trading and favorable legislation); and then handout this money to the "little guys" like them?

Good luck.

i am not sure which group

sickens me more.

occupy a job.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Penn Jillette Said It Best

Every one of the Occupy Wall Street protesters is in the 1%. They are, one and all, among the 1% wealthiest people in the world.

Mitt Romney was mostly right with his 47% comments. These people do feel entitled to "you name it."

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Who tossed Lindsey's salad?!

Eeeeeew! (Sorry.)

What would the Founders do?

Amazeballs

Amazeballs

these protesters are a sad statement

of how helpless and dependent most of us have become.

I all I heard from them was:

MORE GOVERNMENT

MORE THEFT FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE THAN ME

Did I leave something out?

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

This video made me ill.

A bunch of thieves demanding others be violently robbed so that they can get what they want.