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Greenwald's partner was carrying Snowden documents on confiscated thumb drives

Update:

  • Reuters Use of UK terror law to detain reporter's partner 'a disgrace'
  • Wapo: U.S. had advance notice of Britain’s plan to detain reporter Glenn Greenwald’s partner

    A defiant Greenwald said any attempt to intimidate journalists would ultimately backfire. “If the U.K. and U.S. governments believe that tactics like this are going to deter or intimidate us in any way from continuing to report aggressively on what these documents reveal, they are beyond deluded,” Greenwald said. “If anything, it will have only the opposite effect: to embolden us even further.” Read more
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    Mr. Miranda was in Berlin to deliver documents related to Mr. Greenwald’s investigation into government surveillance to Ms. Poitras, Mr. Greenwald said. Ms. Poitras, in turn, gave Mr. Miranda different documents to pass to Mr. Greenwald. Those documents, which were stored on encrypted thumb drives, were confiscated by airport security, Mr. Greenwald said. All of the documents came from the trove of materials provided to the two journalists by Mr. Snowden. The British authorities seized all of his electronic media — including video games, DVDs and data storage devices — and did not return them, Mr. Greenwald said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/world/europe/britain-detai...

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    So when are they going to

    So when are they going to release the goods on the illegal personal activities of world leaders and the ruling class? Its about time they get prosecuted for their crimes.

    To keep up-to-date

    follow GG' twitter:

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald

    Star Wars - A New Hope

    Fortunately, it's not like Lucas imagined it, that the plans to the death star couldn't be copied and all you needed to do was to apprehend one person.

    I suspect Mr. Miranda was

    I suspect Mr. Miranda was actually carrying new encryption keys on those thumb drives. If Ms. Poitras and Mr. Greenwald can send encrypted messages, they can send them by the internet. That would suffice for the actual files that Mr. Snowden turned over to them -- they wouldn't need to be hand carried.
    But a new encryption key is like a codebook for a new code, I believe. You need to know it got to the party with whom you want to communicate, WITHOUT being intercepted and copied. That probably requires it be hand carried by a trusted messenger who can tell you whether or not the key may have been compromised.

    one of the few things I understood about this . . .

    article--

    since I've never understood espionage or government bureacracy very well--

    was that someone in a key position was 'trying to understand what was going on'--

    Yes, that would be me, without the key position.

    SO much confusion here--

    it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

    While these British buffoons were busy

    exercising their authoritarian abilities to please their masters, I wonder, how many actual players in this scenario were being allowed to pass under their noses? I sincerely hope at least one with the actual info was. The Brits are such masters at misdirection that they can't conceive that anyone else could possibly ever upstage them at their own game.

    There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

    A slightly different, non-NY Times view of this...

    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/08/18/cameron-proves-gre...

    "...In this respect, I can say this to David Cameron. Thank you for clearing the air on these matters of surveillance. You have now demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that these anti-terror provisions are capable of rank abuse. Unless some other facts emerge, there is really no difference in kind between you and Vladimir Putin. You have used police powers granted for anti-terrorism and deployed them to target and intimidate journalists deemed enemies of the state.

    You have proven that these laws can be hideously abused. Which means they must be repealed. You have broken the trust that enables any such legislation to survive in a democracy. By so doing, you have attacked British democracy itself. What on earth do you have to say for yourself? And were you, in any way, encouraged by the US administration to do such a thing?"

    Greenwald seems naive...

    on the other hand, Poitras is not. I think it was a really dumb idea to transfer the info this way; I hope what they got was not too dangerous for all involved. I hope Greenwald is taking security measures for himself.

    i heard several weeks back that a laptop was stolen

    from his house

    Greenwald/Snowden/Poitras had to have known

    This was a major possibility, if they didn't simply expect it.
    Hopefully, what the UK authorities seized is only what Greenwald wants them to know they have.... or I'm hoping that's the case.

    Supposedly

    Greenwald said he wasn't worried about what they confiscated because he didn't think they could break the code. Wellllll....I hope so.

    I agree

    Greenwald is too sharp to have not suspected the thumb drives might have been grabbed, esp. having them with his partner. Hopefully it was some type of setup that Greewald and Poitras had contrived to throw somebody off.

    Snowden & asso. wouldn't have been THAT STUPID

    to transport ANYTHING via airplanes. Duh...

    I think they wanted to "test" the CIA to see what they would do. I am 100% positive this was "old" information on the stuff Glenn's friend had. It was all a ruse.

    We now know via his friend JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE CIA.........queried him about....EXACTLY. This alone is useful information.

    Best case scenario

    Now they know what's in the "insurance package" and will behave for a bit.

    Defend Liberty!

    More evidence anti-terrorist laws have little or nothing...

    to do with finding actual terrorists.

    For a bunch of gay blokes

    They certainly have big balls!

    Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

    Why weren't they delivering the documents

    electronically with encryption?

    Was'nt that convinient

    Was'nt that a convinient coincidence, arresting Mr Miranda at a time when he'd be in posession of snowden documents, its as if, they knew

    I know that Glenn stated that Snowden has an "Insurance Package"

    just in case shiit happens to him.

    I certainly hope that Glenn himself and his loved ones took equal precautions.

    I know it's become almost a nonchalant daily act of tyrannies, at this point in history, but seriously, it's still sometimes like waking up in a Kafkaesque dream to find Western Governments, let alone MY America & its govt (however corporatist hijacked it may be), acting completely like a caricature of Stalinist Russia or Maoist China.

    so sickening, watching this shiit day in and day out now, unfolding in realtime.

    prayers to all.

    Predictions in due Time...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

    "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

    This act of open government

    This act of open government tyranny should be good for releasing a few hundred top secret documents all at once.

    WikiLeaks posts 400 gigabytes of encrypted ‘insurance’ data online
    http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-encrypted-files-facebook-626/

    What information is so secret

    that the spooks would go to such lengths to protect it?

    It is a lot more than just proof that we are being spied on.

    And what did Michael Hastings stumble onto?

    Just can't help thinking that there is some connection.

    Greenwald and Snowden better drop everything they've got now...while they can.

    Cyril's picture

    Better not be confiscated anyway...

    Many** of today's thumb drives' encryption features are based on symmetric algorithms, vs. asymmetric ones.

    The former are very unlikely (euphemism) to resist, say, the US government's computing power to decode the data after confiscation in a very short time, even without prior knowledge of either/both the algorithm used (the list of distinct ones isn't that long) or encryption key.

    As for what the US gov't can do to uncover a secret protected by the asymmetric kind, depending on the unknown keys' length, it's anyone's guess, I'd say.

    (** certainly not all, though)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric-key_algorithm

    Not-so-unrelated :

    Daniel Bernstein on NSA's Utah Data Center Cryptanalysis Requirements (8/2/2013)

    http://www.dailypaul.com/295008

    "Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

    http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

    "To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

    The government has wharehouses

    full of super computers cooled by synthetic blood plasma that can process teraflops of data. If they cannot break the algorithm they can certainly brute force anything I would guess.

    .

    One would have to assume..

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    Most likely.

    Most likely.

    "Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

    http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

    "To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

    Desperate times.

    This is really scary, if they're this desperate to go to such extreme measures to be watching associates of Mr. Greenwald, then you know they've got to be thinking of a major "DISTRACTION", such as another 9 Eleven event...or...WAR. The Pentagon likes to start a NEW WAR on a NEW MOON in the Autumn time.

    I wonder if the encrypted drives are real or a ruse lol

    I hope ruse.

    My my Mr Greenwald,

    you certainly know how to stir up the Geo political hornets nest don't you?
    Were there no direct flights from Berlin to Rio?

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    Doesn't seem like it

    Based on the quick check I just did online, there is always a connecting flight (at least 1 stop) from Berlin Airports to Rio Airports.

    "It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different."