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Judge Napolitano schools Stossel on the 4th Amendment




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I admit that Stossel can be

I admit that Stossel can be effective at creating an interesting discussion by taking the devil's advocate role, but it just makes it hard to actually respect him for his own opinions. He is great at interviewing people compared to other tv hosts, but I don't find him personally to be very informative or useful in gaining new knowledge or insight. Stossel just feels like a scripted television character to me.

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Has Stossel ever read 1984?

Doesn't he know about Big Brother? What is the point of Stossel (purposefully?) playing dumb about the 4th Amendment? He seems to understand the 1st Amendment very, very well. Why is Stossel hedging on the Bill of Rights? Answer: In front of him is the Judge who was thrown off of Fox Business for NOT hedging on such clearly defined issues! That is the reason, IMO. A job.

Huh? He's simply playing

Huh? He's simply playing devil's advocate....

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Kudos John Stossel :-)

truefictions comment below is correct :-)

John is playing devil's advocate, to the level of most Americans who rationalize 'if I haven't done anything wrong I have nothing to worry about'.

If John shows that he is willing to 'learn', so can the average 'joe' or 'wilma' and not feel intimidated :-)

The r3VOLution is alive and well :-)

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

(((((PAF)))))

Have you seen the new post MN made, "All Things Must Past?"

I think the post is being ignored because people don't want to see writing on the wall, but if I was a computer person, I think this might be a good time to query about making an investment, eh?

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No I did not. Can you please link it?

:-)

Also, did you see and bump this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/296593/rick-perry-doesnt-cut-it

?

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Here and TY

http://www.dailypaul.com/296572/all-things-must-pass?from=lbp

It's the very top post under originals.

Will check out the link you pasted me now

Wow

I didn't realize Stossel was this dense on the issue.

The evidence stacks up daily regardless of what his buddies say.

I lost a lot of respect for Stossel in this interview.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Stossel rocks.

This is his way of avoiding what could be labeled as a biased interview where he would be "feeding" questions to the interviewee and agreeing with him; by using the devils advocate method he uses the standard opposing views knowing well they will get shot down.

Gotta love him. I do.

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For those who think that

For those who think that Stossel is just playing devil's advocate, you probably didn't catch the post he wrote a while back on the issue stating his position on the matter and all the flack he got from libertarians about it. He really means it. Sure turned me off from him. Sure, he has some cute, feel good pieces about government ripoff schemes...but who needs him when it comes to the most important issues such as our Constitutional rights when he gets all soft and fearful of t'rists hiding under the bed. He needs to get real...Thankfully Napolitano was there to hammer him over the head with a dose of reality.

Devil's Advocate

Stossel doesn't seem to sincerely believe what he is saying.

I agree. I think John is

I agree. I think John is using the attention of the NSA matters to drive out all of the arguments. This allows him to make the statist argument(which is pretty funny.)

If you have been watching John throughout the years, you can tell when he has his "Devils Advocate" tone. And he has that very same tone every time he talks about government spying.

"JUSTIFICATION in spying?"...... Are you kidding me?

Stossel is nuts. Can't believe he would even suggest such a thing! That is exactly the reason we have judges who can issue warrants and why we have those judges. Judge Napolitano needs to argue this from a different point of view I think.....as follows

What is wrong with getting a warrant? Judges do it all the time. I repeat, what is wrong with getting a warrant?

I wasn't born yesterday. To try and justify that they want to get into everybody's business in every way that they can is foolishly naïve. To think that NSA motives are pristine is equally naive!

Information is currency

and just like our currency is adulterated by the Federal reserve, so can our innocent conversation be twisted and manipulated to fit someone's case to add another notch to their career. That's why we have lawyers to speak for us when we are arrested, so as not to incriminate ourselves.

Remember the deal about seven degrees to Kevin Bacon? So what happens if the most tenuous link can be found between you and a terrorist can be traced through a half-dozen connections?

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

There used to be a major wall

There used to be a major wall separating NSA/CIA/other-spook investigative activities from the FBI and other law enforcement.

Data collected by the spooks couldn't be used in criminal cases, or even transferred to law enforcement. This let them work by different rules: The spooks could (in practice, if not in law) be more invasive, because their work didn't end up in prosecutors' hands, while the lawmen could closely follow the law, to avoid contaminating their cases. Though I don't agree with it, the ("Protect me from the awful international Terrorists!") argument of the NSA's apologists (such as Stossel has become) might have been more plausible then.

That wall got torn down and explicitly replaced by expedited cooperation, with the spooks handing info over to the lawmen, as part of the "drug war".

If the argument ever had any validity, that blew it out the window.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Why?

Why isn't he Supreme Court Chief Justice?!? If things worked like intended, he would be. There is a reason they are supposed to be "Your Honor". Its about honor and honor is totally lacking in government today.

Judge has to run for

Judge has to run for presidency, i am tired of this rand paul flip flopping and selling out

No, no, NO! Rand (or

No, no, NO! Rand (or whomever) should appoint him to the Supreme Court. (And promote him to Chief Justice if that slot opens.)

It's a far better use for his talents. It also lasts a LOT longer than eight years.

Can you IMAGINE the (Andrew) Napolitano Court? B-)

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

This is something I've been

This is something I've been wanting actually. Napolitano in the Supreme Court would be huge.

Stossel isn't giving his

Stossel isn't giving his actual beliefs in my opinion, he is trying to play devils advocate he does this often in his shows. Stossel is pretty good on most of this stuff. His questions are more just set ups to allow Napolitano to explain things.

Right- he's playing the role of someone who doesn't mind spying

It makes it more entertaining. You can tell they're fooling around when the judge says "you're coming around" and Stossel mumbles something like "I'm already there" and the Judge says "I know..."

Proof that

Stossel is on the right side of this, he is using his podium on national tv to try and educate the masses. Very good catch on their subcommunication.

No, he's pushing too hard and long.

No, he's pushing too hard and long, IMHO. I think he actually doesn't get it.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Gee

I wanted to think Stossel was playing Devil's Advocate with the Judge ... but I guess he wasn't. I love the Judge, but sorry, Stossel. Anyone who thinks it's OK that our own government is collecting, analyzing and storing everything we do is no friend of mine.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

I agree. Stossel on this NSA

I agree. Stossel on this NSA issue is a sell out. I wonder why?

The Judge is amazing at

The Judge is amazing at articulating the whole matter very clearly.

If certain people consent to giving up their 4th amendment right to privacy, then there should be a paper government form they can sign giving that right away for themselves to the government. People do not have the right to give away my right to privacy.

Someone should make up what looks like an official government form that people can sign that gives up their 4th amendment right of privacy to the federal government.

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Big bump

I'm

sure that Stossel agrees completely with the Judge but if he admitted it there'd be no debate and normal fox watchers wouldn't learn anything.

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Agree

I am totally in agreement. Stossel wants to educate the masses so he plays the other side (if that makes him a sell out, then you are being myopic.)