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Manning's Statement After Verdict #love

Text of Manning’s letter to president requesting pardon

Associated Press — FORT MEADE, Md. — The text of U.S. Army Pfc. Bradley Manning’s statement that will be sent to the president, as read by defense attorney David Coombs following Manning’s sentencing Wednesday, below:

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If you haven't read it in it's entirety it is all here. It is beautiful. Thank you Bradley!

Here is a quote you might not have seen: "When these cries of patriotism drown out any logically based dissension, it is usually the American soldier that is given the order to carry out some ill-conceived mission."

Manning's statement, in full:

The decisions that I made in 2010 were made out of a concern for my country and the world that we live in. Since the tragic events of 9/11, our country has been at war. We’ve been at war with an enemy that chooses not to meet us on any traditional battlefield, and due to this fact we’ve had to alter our methods of combating the risks posed to us and our way of life.

I initially agreed with these methods and chose to volunteer to help defend my country. It was not until I was in Iraq and reading secret military reports on a daily basis that I started to question the morality of what we were doing.

It was at this time I realized that (in) our efforts to meet the risk posed to us by the enemy, we have forgotten our humanity.

We consciously elected to devalue human life both in Iraq and Afghanistan. When we engaged those that we perceived were the enemy, we sometimes killed innocent civilians. Whenever we killed innocent civilians, instead of accepting responsibility for our conduct, we elected to hide behind the veil of national security and classified information in order to avoid any public accountability.

In our zeal to kill the enemy, we internally debated the definition of torture. We held individuals at Guantanamo for years without due process. We inexplicably turned a blind eye to torture and executions by the Iraqi government. And we stomached countless other acts in the name of our war on terror.

Patriotism is often the cry extolled when morally questionable acts are advocated by those in power. When these cries of patriotism drown out any logically based dissension, it is usually the American soldier that is given the order to carry out some ill-conceived mission.

Our nation has had similar dark moments for the virtues of democracy — the Trail of Tears, the Dred Scott decision, McCarthyism, and the Japanese-American internment camps — to mention a few. I am confident that many of the actions since 9/11 will one day be viewed in a similar light.

As the late Howard Zinn once said, “There is not a flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.”

I understand that my actions violated the law; I regret if my actions hurt anyone or harmed the United States. It was never my intent to hurt anyone. I only wanted to help people. When I chose to disclose classified information, I did so out of a love for my country and a sense of duty to others.

If you deny my request for a pardon, I will serve my time knowing that sometimes you have to pay a heavy price to live in a free society.

I will gladly pay that price if it means we could have a country that is truly conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all women and men are created equal.

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Yet

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's GuLag Archipelago was not released immediately.. personally, I think GuLag Archipelago became the road map to the global government.. so they would not make the mistakes Stalin made.

Find the last paragraph iffy

If you deny my request for a pardon, I will serve my time knowing that sometimes you have to pay a heavy price to live in a free society.> Huh? If he's being unjustly imprisoned, he can know, by the actions of the gov't people unjustly imprisoning him, that he's not living in a free society.

I will gladly pay that price if it means we could have a country that is truly conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all women and men are created equal. Huh?? Yes, it was conceived somewhat in liberty (ie. the ideas Declaration of independence). But that was 200 years ago. How it was conceived is not that important--what's more important is how things are now.
And dedicated to the proposition that all men and women are created equal? Equal natural rights i hope he means? And.. i don't think this is much of an issue at all in 2013..equality has progressed a lot...it's other things that are way more important where liberty is being threatened.......

I find that he is justifiably

I find that he is justifiably putting Obama to shame before the whole world if his pardon is not granted ( knowing full weel that Obama will not pardon Manning or Snowden or Col. Lakin..(remember him?) It's pretty bad when growing numbers of your serving military denounces you as a legitimate leader.

Of Course I agree with mad23

mad23 ROCKS, one of the most honest and refreshing posters on DP in a long time.

Please tell me Granger's been

Please tell me Granger's been a victim of identity theft.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

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it appears

you and your lover are at odds with most here
could it be,you both love the fed to keep its secrets?
can hide war atrocities
can lie about the F@F scandal
even if that means shredding the const to do so?
in both your eyes,the fed can what it wants,has the right to spy,can kill you or anyone else at will?
can deny you of everything?
the one you ingratiate yourself is a dull useless tool
and we are known by the friends we keep,whats this make you then?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

because

I was created and raised in the military, which means, I was not created into freedom, but behind barbed wire with armed troops, where rank was what you are, who didn't matter except on personal levels.

I don't know mad23, so we are not lovers.

The military keeps secrets. ALL military's keep secrets.

Manning ADMITS he was wrong.

War is an atrocity.. my father was in three.. Manning is lucky to be alive.

It's not that the fed can do what it wants.. it is not up to manning, it is up to the branches of governemnt to change that, and if you want it to change then you vbecome part of the change by getting in politics, not joining the machine/military.

As for friends, my friends tell it like they see it, good, bad, ugly or wonderful.. we don't have to agree, but we do RESPECT the roles we assume. Manning joined the military machine.. maybe he should have run for congress.. and in 2020, maybe he will.

lol

It used to be that opposites attract. Considering how things have changed, and in todays political and social climate, maybe you two are meant for each other lol

mad23 does have a way of 'saying things', that's for sure :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

He says it like he sees it

I don't think he's wrong. No one forced Manning to jooin the service. He was given ORDERS. He's not innocent. I bet he does three years of golf and making friends in high places.

"He says it like he sees it"

Oh, and I don't?

Ok, I will give you that one. But there is a difference between seeing it right and seeing it wrong. As for myself, I've always leaned far right :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

YES YOU DO

why do you think I like you? Because you;re handsome? mad23 sees it from a military perspective, and I see that.. I was created and raised in the military.. and to me, I'm the only one in my family that didn't join... I could join the machine.. Manning did.

To me, you make a committment you keep it.. he could have written a book when he got out. He had options. What he did was wrong and he admits it. So if Manning can admit he is wrong, what's wriong with saying MANNING WAS WRONG!"? He was. he knows it.. why don't you?

Military

Military is irrelevant. I have had relatives in the military die overseas. My father and brother were in the military, high school friends in the military, and very good friends who have served in the Persian Gulf, Iraq, Afghanistan and other. Manning may have been right or wrong, but when atrocities to this degree happen it is time to do what is morally right - military or otherwise. Honor and pride, and defending the Constitution are above all else when serving your countrymen, and humanity.

Btw, I did not join either. Thank you for the compliment :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I think it's very relevant

growing up in the military, civilian life was alien to me. I didn't get it. I wanted to be a civilian and it seemed most wanted to be in the military without guns and gates..

Military is it's own animal, reminds me of Peter Camejo.. he was Nader's running mate 04.. Camejo said he was drafted during Nam, but he didn't have to serve.. he had done a little homework. read all the small print on the contracts he was told he needed to sign. One contract released the MIC from any harm if he was injured. He refused to sign it. They couldn't force him to sign it. He was not drafted. No on drafted Manning.

Look.. he joined a killing machine. He chose to join it. He chose to give up his rights. He admits he was wrong. He knows, I know, mad23 knows, most military knows, and just because most on DP don't know or worse, don't care.. doesn't mean they are right or Manning is right.. Manning admitted he was wrong. There it is.

What may be relevent to others

does not necessarily make it relevant to me.

Manning admitted that he was wrong according to manmade law. If there is a higher power up in heaven, or not, he was right according to humanity.

MIC is controlled by corporatists. Everybody here should know by now that I have Z-E-R-O respect or regard for corporatists. Funny how at tonights meeting I was just explaining the difference between corporatism and free markets. There is a huge difference you know :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

So,

You like it in the A$$ as well?

NOSHEEPLE

Don't know

Not going to find out.

But you dwell there. seems to suit you.

This Whole Manning Ordeal...

Should remind everyone of just how sick this country is and that it needs help. Soldiers gunning down civilians in the Wikileaks video, Manning’s trial, the vocal divisions over Manning’s decisions, the sex change thing. Geez folks, you can’t even write this stuff. This country is sick and needs help.

Is Chelsea Manning's gender an issue in her appeal to Prez?

While not stated in Bradley Manning's letter to the President, seeking a pardon; the part of the story that no one has mentioned so far is the announcement that as of now he is requesting that he be referred to by his new gender identity chosen name, Chelsea, except on mail being sent to his internment facility.

This could place his,..er,..her, request for pardon in a special political category that the Prez counts on for support. Dissing Chelsea is a whole lot different to folks in sympathy with her, that send Dems money.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/bradle...

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I think Chelsea came out now because

of the realization that she will be spending the next 35 years there and can't put the rest of her life on hold any longer. She is going to have to make do the best she can there starting by being herself.

I really can't envision Obama releasing Manning, though I do think we need to put the pressure on. Hopefully we can elect someone the next time who will release all of the political prisoners.

for all we know it could be a ploy to make an excuse

for the accidental death of Manning in prison. That's how crazy we have to think these days. Manning is killed in prison for desiring to be transgender, I could see it now.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

The risk of that might strengthen pardon appeal, eh?

Just the opposite, Tog. This could make her cause celeb in Hollywood and even put pressure on the Bohemian Grove crowd too!

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I think you may be onto something

Perhaps this could weigh in on the President's decision

Notice his closing statement

"I will gladly pay that price if it means we could have a country that is truly conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all women and men are created equal."

Women were purposefully placed before men, as "created equal". He seems to assert that, no matter what organs you are assigned by that creator he referred to, the final decision on how that will be lived out is up to the individual to conform to, and then convince others of sincerity by openly expecting compliance with. That's a difficult task to do, especially in military internment.

I believe it to be fact that a sound moral judgement was made when he/she released those files. To me, it's something that shouldn't be clouded by feeling or faith as to his/her moral decision on this issue.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

wow

pandering to the public like that....he could almost be the president himself.

His identity crisis predates his leaking documents

so I don't think it was intentional that way.

What could play out is a difficulty for the Prez and the Progs to have Chelsea's new persona not to be considered for some form of leniency BECAUSE of favor among their party for "her" new status will be seen as needing protection.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

"McCarthyism"?

I have a disagreement with him on mentioning McCarthyism as a "dark moment", and again, we don't want to have a "democracy."

McCarthyism, however, if it means going hard after the enemies in our government, THAT IS WHAT WE DESPERATELY NEED NOW!

I realize that the enemy has taken over our courts and executive and legislative branches and we don't have anybody with the balls of Joseph McCarthy, but such a patriot going after the criminals would be welcome. And he'd be dead in short order as well.

But ALL OF US resisting evil will make a difference. They can't kill or imprison us all, though they certainly want us to believe that by killing the Hastings of the world, and imprisoning the Mannings of the world.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Praying for you, Bradley.

Praying for you, Bradley. However, no matter the outcome, history will never forget what you have done for our country. You are an honorable and courageous man. God bless you.

Statements claiming that

Statements claiming that freedom comes with a price just piss me off. No, freedom is free. Only the scum who want to destroy free will have convinced everyone that freedom comes with a price, and it always reverts to people saying some bullshit collectivist statement about society functioning. Freedom is personal. You cannot take nor grant others' freedom, and you can only defend your own.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

I know what your saying, and

I know what your saying, and what bradley has described i think is a compromise, not a price, even though i think he has payed a price, for us, just not the one hes describing......but i do think freedom has a price, i think eternal vigilence, is freedoms price

I feel ya. When someone

I feel ya. When someone comes along and exclaims, freedom isn't free, I respond with: Freedom might not be free, but the Constitution is. Maybe you should read it! :D It is important to smile, otherwise it comes off as a bit snarky. Insert big grin here.