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Everybody Meet Chelsea Manning

One day after being sentenced to 35 years in prison for the largest leak of classified documents in U.S. history, the Army private the world knows as Bradley Manning issued a statement about who she really is. "As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me. I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female"

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/chelsea-manning-reveals-herself-to-the-world-i-am-a-female-20130822




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deacon's picture

I asked you to google

DROP WEAPONS
I could have easily posted from many,many sites about the same topic
I see,you didn't bother to look
I read this years back,have vet friends who told me the same thing
If you want truth,look for it
so what?!?! they,you and them followed orders,it is still wrong
no matter how it is sliced
You don't seek truth,your posts prove this fact very well,and it does show your state of mind
But oh know,shooting women and children and other innocents is just collateral damage...right? or does the order make it all morally right?
and make out and out murder not a crime?
"I was following orders" does not make an illegal order right
I was almost court martial ed for not following an order that was wrong,
so don't sit there and talk down to me,or make it seem i know nothing
i have lived it,and the brass had to bow,as they knew they were wrong
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

You're still changing the

You're still changing the subject. If you want to talk about drop weapons create a new thread. As for your having "lived it," I flatly don't believe you. I think you are making things up. I have served in combat extensively and never saw anything like this happen. Quite the contrary, we were so paranoid about ROEs and being accused of killing innocents that we put ourselves at unnecessary risk. Your language skills are such that I don't believe you. No veteran would talk the way you do. Your terminology is not that of a veteran. You spread paranoid propaganda that is plainly illogical and at odds with anybody who has even basic military service. You are unbalanced. Anybody can get online and claim to have been ordered to engage in criminal activity. Yeah, right. What was your commanding officer's name? Specifically what did he order you to do? Describe the context of those orders. What was your MOS? There are an abundance of legal channels for someone being given bad or criminal orders to reject them. Here's a test, can you tell me what those are? If you followed them there should be records, so please, share those records with us. The military is a massive, politically-correct bureaucracy that leaves behind a huge paper trail wherever it goes. You can't even kid around in boot camp for fear of being accused of hazing or sexual harassment and being brought up on charges. But somehow in that environment they manage to systemically cover-up mass murder? Do tell.

deacon's picture

yes I know

anyone online can make all kinds of claims
yourself included,you claim this and that,then
when cornered claim something else
such as drop weapons are a myth,you are a liar,it has been proven
and people have been court martialed over it,you can't court martial a myth,now can you?
Now why would tell you anything of value,such as my MOS,the commanders name
ect ect?
you seriously need some meds,you are unstable
everything that was brought up,you either talked around it,changed the subject matter,called names and tried projected your own worthlessness
unto others,an you still think you are right
talk about diffusional
you are pro war,for killing of innocents (if an order was given). You said this yourself(if an order was given by a superior to shoot someone(even if not guilty)then that order made it miraculously a non murder,and not a crime
so put that in your pipe and smoke it

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

An exception doesn't make the

An exception doesn't make the rule. The whole war in Iraq, for example, shouldn't be judged through the prism of Abu Ghraib, an unfortunate but isolated incident. You focus on exceptions and present them as the rule. It would be like me pointing to the example of a single crazy pothead who runs around raping and murdering people and presenting this as my case for MJ prohibition. And if someone were to do this it reveals several things, first and foremost that they don't know anything about MJ. It reveals that their perspective is wildly out of context with reality. Such is the case with you and your descriptions of the war and the military... ergo, you're a liar.

deacon's picture

say what?

just who has been changing the subject matter? why... it is you
you stated drop weapons were a myth,I pointed out it is true
gave you a link,told you people were court martialed for it
and now,you change,what you called the goal posts
you either need more education,or you are just here for other reasons
and as far as me being a liar...nice try,you have been found lacking
my descriptions of war??? i posted none,other than proof you either
are a lair,have an agenda or are confused.
But you have given most here who you have chatted with,clues as to what you are
shall we play more?
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

They are a myth. You present

They are a myth. You present "drop weapons" as though it's a tactic the military is trained in. Which could not be further from the truth. ROEs are so highly restrictive soldiers live in fear of having their battlefield decisions second guessed. It's a completely unreasonable standard to hold troops to. Civilians are going to get killed in war, especially with an insurgency. The enemy is known to create scenarios in which troops will feel threatened and react in such a way as to create civilian casualties purposefully for the purpose of generating bad PR.

All I can say is this.

If him and his lawyers are successful at getting the tax payers to fund his sex change treatments then I hope he gets shanked as soon as possible.

Why? That is a terrible

Why? That is a terrible thing to say. Especially considering the much more egregious things that he brought to light with regard to what the tax payers are actually funding our government to do.

I'm not for tax payer funded anything, but I'm definitely not for people getting shanked in prison either.

Change the Story

First Manning is looking at 100+ years in prison, then he makes a statement (out of the blue), now the sentence is 35 years with a chance of being pardoned by Obama. You do the math. Manning has to earn the pardon by playing their game. They can't kill him, but they can kill his image.

It is very important for TPTB to threaten those in the military with this treatment, so that everyone is afraid to blow the whistle. It is so transparent and idiotic that I have to wonder "Do they really think anybody is buying this crap"?

Actually, I think what you

Actually, I think what you say is plausible.

Epic fail Propaganda

But it does expose the propaganda/Anti-Constitutional folks parading here to be something they are NOT.

Get as far from the Beast as you can. It is wounded and dangerous.

Show it Love, but don't fall for deception.

Propaganda? This is a real

Propaganda? This is a real link buddy, that's a real picture. ROFL

Just keep ROTFL, over and over and over.

And keep posting!

That's not what he's talking about

But you'll have to figure that out on your own. No Freebies.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Cyril's picture

"I want everyone to know the real me: I, ObaMARX, am a POS."

"As I transition YOU ALL into communism, I want everyone to know the real me: I, ObaMARX, am a PIECE OF SH i T."


http://youtu.be/52JVljZW_cw

Oh, hey there, NSA,

Whazzup, suckers? Feeling tingly?

Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk... Refresher:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

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Smooches.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Is this a joke?

Is this real?

Free Bradley Manning!

What a great ploy for the far-left to eat up. No matter, whatever works.

You ARE the far-left.

You ARE the far-left. Manning's supporters are ALL leftists.

Oh I think you're quite wrong

Oh I think you're quite wrong about that. This is not a party line campaign. This is about universal right and wrong....not right vs left

No, this is about an academic

No, this is about an academic spectrum in political science, on which, you guys fall on the far-left. Talk to any poly sci professor, he can explain this to you. You're a lefty on this issue, perhaps not on others, but on this one you are.

I've learned not to be taken

I've learned not to be taken in by poly sci professors a long time ago. Don't worry! With time and experience you too will learn to think and see for yourself...I hope.(given the disdain for current education curricula)

If you care about Manning you will support him.

Because its probably better for his life and health to spend the next 35 years in a womans prison. In fact-- go out on websites and demand the government respect his gender.

OK,

never saw that coming. Dismissed the slurs against Manning as an Army discrediting campaign...shot the messenger without looking into the message.
All my fears about wikileaks are confirmed.

Jill, I always enjoy your comments here.

Don't you live in Australia or New Zealand? Thank you for your interest in the fight for Liberty!

I'm very fortunate

to be a Kiwi.

I find it very interesting

that in the Manning arena, the narrative has expanded to where we now have a transvestite whistleblower named Chelsea...

and the Snowden narrative now includes a gay Brazilian boyfriend and a homosexual Greenwald promising vengeance.

I'm sure Maddow is absolutely thrilled.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Why are you so fixated on sexual orientation and gender issues?

Just wondering

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

We are not supposed to notice?

We are supposed to pretend that it's all normal and natural?

"Sexual orientation and gender issues" are a construct of a society that has gone nuts and has embraced bizzaro world. Whatever happened to the word "sex"? Manning's sex is male

Manning thinks he is a woman and I think I am a trained circus bull elephant and I demand that Ringling Brothers hire me for their elephant show (if they don't, I will have the law on them). If anyone even so much as looks sideways at me I will accuse them of being fixated on my elephant orientation and gender issues, and I will agitate for laws to force everyone celebrate my orientation. Bakers will have to bake cakes for me when I want to marry another circus elephant, or I will have their business shut down. It's the people looking sideways at me who are crazy and mixed up and bigoted and ray-ciss. Nothing wrong with me at all.

What are you doing here,

What are you doing here, anyway? Have you learned nothing?

Am I supposed to have learned

to ignore how the world was made to work and embrace foolishness? Is that what Ron Paul is all about?

Why don't you list what I am supposed to have learned.