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SyrianGirl "Chemical Weapons False Flag Against Syria Update"

The bbc are insinuating at every opportunity that it is the governments actions while at the same time calling for un "experts" to go to the scene and find proof of who actually did it

Calling for war based on supposition NOT facts

If it was the "freedom" fighters, then the western world (government and sheep) is as much responsible for those deaths then those who released it, IF, IF, it is true that they are supplying them with the tools of war, or finances, KNOWING where they'd be spent

I dont know with absolution what the real story is, but i will NOT rule out the fact that someone else other then the syrian government may have done this, i will not automatically presume the syrian government did this, why, because it is painfully obvious that the media WANTS you to think that without the facts, and i do not want to be TOLD what to think, i want the FACTS, the honest undeniable FACTS, and if these, false flag accusations are true, then so god help the instigators should a whistleblower with evidence comes calling



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Granger,

put down the spoonful of GMO laced frosted flakes and stop reading your Rockefeller "Dept. of Education" doctrine on stupid raising stupid manual. Rockefeller is just an employee of Rothschild. Like JP Morgan was and all the other wealthy families of the past centuries.

NOSHEEPLE

I don't agree

Insults aside, I believe that as Americans it's Rockefeller who should be held accountable.

Exactly!!!

Rothschild is so far removed (by way of puppet pawns) that they laugh at the world of sorrow. The puppet master / The desolate one /
The Antichrist.

NOSHEEPLE

Syrian Girl - we are nearly dead over here. I love you.

We need you here in the U.S. You are awesome. The United States is full of dead men in walking corpses seeking the fat of the land.

Please come here and save us.

We need you here.

Love,

Us.

see also: http://www.dailypaul.com/283280/syrian-girl-why-the-nwo-hate...

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The Syrian Arab Spring began

The Syrian Arab Spring began innocently enough like Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt. Syrian rebels really didn't have enough resolve or power to get rid of Assad. Then the West stepped in to try to push it over the edge. That didn't happen. Assad and Syria won against the revolution. Now the west is resorting to back handed moves to start a world war trying to take down the Syrian regime. Too bad the west lost that initiative. Eventually Assad will go, but not under current circumstances. That's why I am currently cheering for Bashar Al-Assad along with the Syrian Girl.

There was nothing "innocent" about the Arab Spring

It was a NATO/Israel intelligence operation from the beginning.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I think you are somewhat confused

Israel is nato part of the UN Agenda, and why the UN has HUGE issues with Israel.

The Arab Spring is because the UN/NATO is making sure the Islamic nations that agreed to the UN Agenda are following through, and these people are not happy to be giving up their arms, property, rights.. anymore than Americans will be happy when Obama signs the Arms treaty and troops come to collect arms, and tell property owners, the state has confiscated their property.

That is certainly a unique point of view Granger.

So, I take it that you do not believe that Israel through the AIPAC has control of American foreign policy, that the United States protects Israel at the UN Security Council, that Israel collaborates with NATO, that the Mossad works with the CAZAB (NATO intelligence) and that Israel wants to be a part of NATO officially.

The UN is an Anglo/American elites' creation and is run for the benefit of the globalist agenda. The ruling oligarchy in the Jewish State is at the heart of the control of that agenda and uses the agencies of the UN through its American sayanim to carry out its own objectives.

These objectives are well outlined in the 1982 Yinon Plan that has been and is being carried out step by step. The goal is the creation of a Greater Israel from the Euphrates to the Nile which is to be the real centre of government for the world kingdom that is the ultimate purpose of the ruling oligarchy of that State. I believe most Christians accept that this is the will of God since this is the culmination of the futurist eschatological doctrine taught by most evangelical and fundamentalist Christian churches. Even the Roman Catholic church accepts that the Jewish people have a salvific covenant with God and accepts the existence of the Jewish State and therefore its purposes. That this is also "a strong delusion" that will never be realised is also certain.

I find the comment about "property rights" a curious one. Israel is for all intents and purposes to my understanding a Communist State run for the benefit of the ruling oligarchy and there are no private property rights as we understand them. This is not an openly admitted fact since the Jewish State is a master at obfuscation, ambiguity and deception. The entire legal system of the Jewish State is subject to the whims of the oligarchy that run the country and there is no constitution. The so called Basic Law can be changed any time it suits the ruling class who are known as the warring families.

There is no "right" to bear arms as there is in America since there is no Constitution to protect any such rights. (The same is true of any other "right".) It is the duty of every Israeli however, with some exemptions for religious Jews, to serve for three years in the armed forces and thereafter to be a reservist on call at any time. This means that these citizens who are permitted and required to so serve as perpetual soldiers (excluding the non-Jewish Arab Israeli population} naturally carry arms as a part of that duty. Here is some information, written by Israelis, that might help to clear up any confusion:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan...

http://roytov.com

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Not exactly

AIPAC represents MIC which is global, so AIPAC is more a globalist organization that bribes Israel is working to control it.. and it is failing in that America and Israel are breaking.. Americans, for the most part are falling for a NWO, where Israel has no delusions about what is going on.

The globalist agenda sees the Jewish state as a problem, especially sice the majority in the UN democraticallly are Islamic and venhemously opposed to Israel.

Palestine was even much larger than the area you describe and Israel made peace with Jordan and Egypt, returned the West Bank and Gaza.. the problem Israel is now facing is 1.2 million Jews (and growing) seeking amnesty from their countries as their countries become Islamic in majority and threaten them... this is why there is illegal building, building that has nothing to do with the state of israel, but wannabe settlers who make bad deals with brokers and crooks on the Palestinian side, who take the money, allow then to build and then report the illegal building hoping to keep the house.. Israel bulldozes the houses.. now Israel, facesd with this massive movement of Jews wanting to exacpe the NWO and move to Israel is reclaiming land to stop the illegal deals..

If you are talking about Jerusalenm as being the center.. the UN wants that for a UN center.. Palestine is not a state, and that is what the UN wants for all nations.. no states, just slaves.

Whatever you want to call a delusion, in the world of illusion there are many.

The communist part of Israel was the Kibbutz, which there are very few.. most communities are now Mushavs, privately owned, nationalized, there are 4 American ones that I counted, they operate many businesses and each has it's own milita connected and trained by the IDF.

There are plenty of Jewish communists, and they are in conflict with Israel, they want a NWO and one group where we see, "O am Jewish and Israel has no right to exist". The other are the orthodox Jew, who is much like the Christians as noth seek an end of times, the Jew for the Messiah to come, the Christian for the Messiah to return.

I think the above paragraph explains how the IDF works.. the quote I see from the IDF is, "If we had been armed, there would have never been a holocast".

The MIC IS the ruling oligarchy in the Jewish State.

This is why they are called "the warring families". They live off war, it is their bread and butter. For them America is a source of manpower and money.

The reference to "a strong delusion" was a scripture I thought you might recognise: "Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false" (2 Thessalonians 2:11).

I believe this is the condition that afflicts those Christians who strongly support Israel and by so doing make themselves an enemy of God who will destroy that "bloody city" and everything it represents. This is not the first time that God's people have found themselves in this position. It happened when they came to believe that they were infallible because they were the "chosen people" or refused to see the obvious falseness of their convictions which were in direct contradiction of the Word of God.

It is too late I believe for the churches as a whole to change course but for individuals there is always an opportunity to “Come out of her, my people, so you will not take part in her sins and so you will not receive her plagues, because her sins have piled up all the way to heaven and God has remembered her crimes. (Revelation 18:4-5)

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Today

Israel is thriving by advancing alternative energy, tech, ag, it's absolutly amazing what they are doing.. and some countries are so excited, like India.. South Korea, Japan.. USA.. if you see Israel business ventures.. you will see how the NWO HATES them, because they don't need or want a UN Agenda.. they are the only country that increased forest by 20%, everyone else declined. Rare life is becoming abundant.. solar ceramics.. medically they are superior and advanced, it's cheaper and better in Israel than anywhere. China LOVES Israel.. says they are the genious of the world.. Israel is awesome and I can't wait to go there.. hope to be able to stay a couple months.. so much to see and do..

God LOVES Israel. it is the apple of God's eye. I see!

What you "see" is a delusion.

That is why it is called a "strong delusion". By all means go to "Israel" and stay there for a couple of months. Get off the beaten track and visit the parts of the country that are not tourist destinations.

If you really want to know the country you might even visit the website of the Israeli dissident I gave to you and ask him to give you people to look up to show you another side of the picture. www.roytov.com

The Israel that God loves is not the Jewish State in Palestine. The apple of His eye is a mature sanctified people who are in His Son the Lord Jesus Christ and who have completely surrendered to and identified with Him. The Jewish State have usurped the name "Israel" in order to co-opt the Christian churches to support their project of world domination. They are the tares in the field in the parable of the wheat and the tares. They will be gathered up and burned in due course.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I don't agree with you

I think the Jews are still being scapegoated for the lies, injustice and hate the world has, just looking at the hate, spite, and lies here on DP. The world has proved repeatedly how sick and hateful it is to Jews and if Israel as it is didn't exist, I have no doubt there would be a bigger holocast than the last one.

Look at how you ended your post "they will be gathered and burned in due course".

No they won't.

Israel will prevail and the rest will fail, they will slaughter each other and Israel will THRIVE.

Matthew 13:30, 41-42

The language I used is included in the parable of the wheat and weeds or tares to which I referred you. It was in other words, figurative language. I must say that your knowledge of scripture seems to be lacking somewhat. This being the case how can you possibly know whether what you believe about "Israel" is true? What is the basis for this belief? Here is the portion in question:

13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles TO BE BURNED, but gather the wheat into my barn.

13:41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, 13:42 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth..

There is much I could say regarding this scripture and what it means but suffice to say that the weeds in question are those in the world who are largely responsible for breaking of God's Law and causing many to sin. They are motivated in this by the adversary as the parable explains. This is how satan works through carnal men and their lusts. He operates especially in the corridors of power in government and religion. (Luke 4:5-8)

It is my belief that the ruling oligarchy in Israel (and I have maintained a focus on them rather than all the residents of that state) are at the very centre of the worldwide corrupt system that is known in scripture as Mystery Babylon. The fiery furnace is the fiery Law to which they shall all be subject at the Lord's time of judgement for that nation.

The Lord came from Sinai...With his right hand he gave a fiery law to them. (Deuteronomy 33:2)

I do urge you to reconsider and to read the links that I have provided for you. It is my prayer that many will escape the judgement to come just as many escaped the Roman armies who destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D. I do know that the oligarchy have provided a way of escape for themselves and their families when the holocaust arrives and that the US Navy is to be deployed for that task. They will however not escape the judgement of God that awaits them. If you know anyone in Israel and Palestine personally then you should warn them of the danger.

The "holocaust" I refer to is pictured in Isaiah 29. Read the entire chapter since it applies to the times in which we live. The description is very reminiscent of a nuclear explosion and it seems likely that this will indeed be the apportioned end of Jerusalem. In other words this is a HOLOCAUST...destruction by fire.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

True

I lack scripture because I was not raised Christian. My baptism as an infant, I suffered for because my father hated ALL religions and he condenmed me for a baptism, my God Maother admitted, she didn't understand why my Mother asked for me to be baptised, since my parents were not believers. I had no upbringing in the Church. When my Mother died, I decided that I should find out about this Catholic Church and my baptism. So I took what classes and prograns they have.. I was not welcomed by them, but tolerated. That's ok.

I appreciate what little I have learned.. and now, I am being called to Messianic Judeaism, what God wills for the Oliarchs, is God's plan, and not my concern. What God wills for the people of the world is God's plan, and mot my concern. What God wills for me is MY HUGE concern, and I ADORE God, Love God, Love Israeal, and grateful for my path, and if it is to be that I go to Israel and it's nuked, sobeit. I am not going to escape my fate, but embrace it. If I am a weed, then God will do as he must. If I am not then I muct continue to do as I feel, believe, think, that is. I am.

Peace be with you.

There has certainly been a change since 2012.

During the 2011/2012 nomination campaign you supported Ron Paul and he is non-interventionist. All the Messianic Jews I have been in contact with support "Israel" and the narrative of the "war on terror" so I suppose that is now your position. That is quite a shift.

This would seem to indicate that your environment is dictating your beliefs i.e. the "world" in which you are living at any moment is affecting your feelings and desires i.e. the "flesh". This is not at all unusual and applies to most people.

However once one is awakened by the Holy Spirit there is a change of consciousness (mind and world view) and one becomes aware of the influences affecting one's decisions. It is then that we are given greater authority to make decisions and are judged accordingly. As one exercises this authority in accordance with God's will one receives more authority. To the one who has more will be given. "Take care then how you hear, for to the one who has, more will be given, and from the one who has not, even what he thinks that he has will be taken away."(Luke 8:18)

Your comment about the Plan of God not being your concern does not agree with your assertion that you love God. If you loved God then His Plan would very much concern you. This was the very essence of the struggle in the Garden of Gethsemane when the Lord Jesus Christ won the final battle with the adversary.

And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and knelt down and prayed, saying, Father, if you are willing (boulema), remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will (thelema), but yours, be done. (Luke 22:41-42)

As I have indicated above the Plan of God is His "boulema" the Greek word that describes God's overall Plan and Purpose. The Lord Jesus Christ surrendered His personal will, "thelema", to His Father's Plan and Purpose and therefore fulfilled the plan of Redemption.

I will not speak with you much longer, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no power over me, but I am doing just what the Father commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father.(John 14:30-31)

If our Saviour and Lord obeyed His Father's Plan and Purpose because He loved Him then we must do the same. We must seek to know what His Plan is and follow Him in it. This is the meaning of His instruction to "Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.." (Matthew 6:33)

Regarding His righteousness, the Lord Jesus Christ also told his disciples "“If you love me, you will obey my commandments." (John 14:15)

In order to obey His commandments it is necessary for us to know His commandments. His commandments are found in the Law of Liberty and Love which is embedded in all the scriptures of the Bible and one cannot be a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ apart from studying the scriptures and following the leading of His Spirit. To believe otherwise is delusional (that word again).

In other words you may say that you love God but the Word of God says you do not. The Christian life has nothing to do with the fatalism you express. That is a pagan idea. That you love "Israel" I have no doubt but everything you have mentioned about "Israel" to justify this love are the works of the carnal imaginations of men, the technological inventions and achievements of that State. In other words you are glorifying the flesh. You also believe that "Israel will prevail and the rest will fail, they will slaughter each other and Israel will THRIVE."

There is another scripture that describes this condition found in Revelation 13:4:

And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?"

I do believe that the Jewish State is the apotheosis of the carnal mind of man (Mammon) and manifests all the characteristics of that mind. This influence has also pervaded those nations where this State has gained political and cultural control. The deception is very powerful and has converted many in the churches to "Israel" worship.

24:24 "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." (Matthew 24:24)

In other words these churches where this doctrine is preached are already worshipping the very power that they believe is yet to come, the "Antichrist". Whether the meaning of that word is taken to mean opposed to or in place of Christ the description is a perfect fit for the Jewish State in the churches where the Christians have forsaken their first love and replaced Him with this counterfeit State of "Israel".

If they did indeed worship the Lord Jesus Christ then they would manifest His nature and character but they do not. They are manifesting the nature and character of the god they do worship in their bloodthirsty imprecations against Muslims and anyone who opposes the Jewish State and in their support for all the actions of that State no matter how violent, depraved or deceitful they might be.

I pray that God will open your eyes Granger to the danger you are in and I do not mean merely physical danger. This is not something to be taken lightly.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

You and I

Did not hear the same message from Ron Paul. Because I Ron Paul I joined the GOP and became a committee member, district team leader and national delegate (chosen by the campaign, yet Romney won CA, so his delegates went to Tampa, my point being, I did what I heard Ron Paul ask us to do. Did you?)

Ron Paul non-interventionsit had to do with the US and our entanglements specifially due to UN traties, and to stop being the "police of the world". I agree, and why I believe the US needs to LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE. Israel has the right to defend its self and does a great job.

Ron Paul has said, he does not believe we should tell Israel what to do. I agree. Ron Paul believes the US has the right to defend its self, I agree.

I see where the EU has gone Islamic and why 1'2 million Jews are being forced out of their native countries and seeking amnesty in Israel. The US is now being challanged in 32 states to adopt Islamic courts. Do you agree? I don't. However, if it comes to pass, I will accept that. If I must wear a scarf to show respect to the Islamic people who moved here. I will respect that, not that I won't forget what I was a secretary for the dean where I went to culinary school, the Musloms refused to wear chef hats and demanded all pork be banned from school menus. But I will adopt. I can accept these changes. Do I like them? No. Do I like that the US is police of the world? No. But I adopted.

My environment is farming, the animals are very good to me and we have a bond, a trust. It's not wasy having to cull and eat a bird I am fond of, but I think it's more humane than picking up flesh wrapped in packages.

Thank you for your prayers. God will be my judge and I have no fear, but look forward his his judgement, whatever that may be. I STAND WITH ISRAEL.

I am not an American.

I am a Scot living in Scotland so the question of joining the GOP and becoming a committee member never arose. However i did support your decision and defended you against many who opposed you.

We are closer than you may imagine. The only major difference I believe is that we believe differently about the role of "Israel" in these times. Whatever purpose God has for you I trust He will reveal it to you in time.

My first wife was Jewish and I have a Jewish daughter and two Jewish grandchildren. My present wife is from Jewish stock although her mother became a Christian when my wife was young and my wife grew up as a believer.

I have always had a soft spot for the Jewish people and spent three months there in 1971 with five weeks on two kibbutzim. This was some years before the Lord apprehended me in 1977. Therefore my belief in "Israel" was not entirely a collective one. It was very personal. I simply doubted the eschatology being taught and sought out the truth of the situation.

Just like you I went searching but my focus was on the scriptures and how the Jewish State measured up to the Word of God. It doesn't, except as a compensation for the sin of Jacob in deceiving Esau into selling him his birthright and cheating him out of his father Isaac's blessing. That is the understanding that I have come to and the only one that fits all the facts as I know them. My wife and I are now in a place where there are no major stumbling blocks to our spiritual growth since we have left the organised Christian church and I hope that you will find the same freedom in your walk.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Interesting

You know most the Kibbutz are gone now?

Thank you for the kind words. I was not seeking Israel. I thought during Bible Study, looking at maps, that it would be an interesting place to walk the trail Jesus walked.. next thing I heard, they had recently established such a tour.

Then in a discussion about Ron Paul, and Ron Paul saying Israel was our friend. I couldn't see it. So I thought I should investigate why Ron Paul would say such a thing. Well, it took a lot of looking, and then I began seeing how Israel was doing remarkable things.. amazing things, growing forest, greening the desert, bringing rare life back to thrive with people as part of the solution, the mushaves, the businesses, the nationalities, freedom, it was one thing after the next.. and then the Messianic temple went up.. the rabbi told me it was a blessing, they didn't have to pay rent.. and they told me things, gave me spiritual leads. There's serendipity it's hard to explain.. plane tickets round trip for less than in state? Places for rent less than the cheapest hotel here with breakfast? Why is this happening? It just seems to be that I am being called.

Now if that calling is because I am a weed and God wants to destroy me, than I am not going to resist, but accept my fate.

I am happy for you and your beloved wife, and pray God's mercy and grace bless you abundantly and constantly.

forest increase

That's silly. I found this:

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/israel/forest-area-percent-o...
even if it has increased since 2010, for such a small country an increase isn't really all that significant. If I planted one tree on my 28 acres I would have an increase in forest.

I think many of these achievements or advances in technology aren't what you make them out to be. Be specific in naming sixteen of them. Name three medical advancements and three in pharmaceuticals.

When every county in the world is in decline

I'd say it's significant.
Here's a list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_...

That is a fairly significant amount

But I'm not really sure how significant many of the inventions are. Many are not innovative breakthroughs, only modifications of prior technology. I see they include tomato and cucumber seeds, peanut butter snacks--definitely breakthrough innovations.

What are your top ten favorites if you have any? I like the pill cam.

Oh...what about the forest? Show the increased numbers in square kilometers. Not really sure how significant that is either, but I am curious about what you come up with.

HASABARA

always defending Israel regardless of the subject

for anyone curious if The Granger is paid by Israel to post, here is a Google search

israel "submitted by the granger" site:http://www.dailypaul.com
https://www.google.com/search?as_q=israel&as_epq=submitted+b...

1400 results with very narrow terms... meaning she has mentioned Israel in at least 1400 posts of hers

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

She's not paid

Some are paid, but she is a member of a volunteer corps. She is mentally ill--a religious fanatic. Check her posts out. They are posted every day, often every few minutes, starting early in the morning until late at night.

ifamericansknew.org

endtheoccupation.org

councilforthenationalinterest.org

stoptheblankcheck.org

Please share on Facebook with all friends. The whole world must know the truth--thank you!

I love Israel

so I'm up to 1401 and counting..

I am not paid.. it's from the heart.

The rebels are not rebels

The so called rebels are realy foreign mercinaries of IzUnReal and the USA two Rothschild puppet nations.

sovereign

No

Israel has nothing to do with this.. but being a scapegoat for the UN Agenda.

The rebels are rebels because they do not like the fact Assad signed into the UN Agenda and now Syria is not sovreign, and those who are fighting the UN Agenda have joined them.

Not everyone wants to give up their property, rights and arms in the name of global peace. Many people, and only the state of Israel believes private propert, rights and arms is the key to global peace.