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Marijuana Makes You Depressed?

I recently was at a Birth Day Party and some one at the party was explaining how Marijuana saved their life. I was excited to hear that and joined the conversation. Some old guy at the party said,

"Marijuana makes you depressed", It is not good for you".

I was shocked he had the nerve to say that to the face of some one who's life was saved from it.

I joined the conversation and said,

"Oh really? How bad is it for you? Because it sure looks like you are sipping on something right now that is ten times worse than that. People die every day and it is caused by the crap you are drinking right now".

He was drinking Rum & Coke.

He replied back and said, "Pot is a gateway drug. It ruins lives"

I replied back said,

"Pot doesn't ruin lives. They ruin them selves."
"And I am sick and tired of people calling something a gate way drug. Nothing is a gate way drug. The drug dealer is the gateway for more drugs. He wants to make more money. A drug dealer will always offer something else." If it was legal, we wouldn't have to find drug dealers".

He replied back and said,

"Ok, you make a good point but it is debatable."

The person who claimed his life was saved replied back and said
"It is not debatable for me. I could be dead today" You want to debate life?

I also added,

"I've had friends who died from alcohol. I've had friends who took pills,drank and never woke up again. My father was in the military who got kicked in the teeth knocked out in Iraq and got jumped by Muslims but survived, but came back to America to be drugged up by a psychotic psychologist who claims drugs are good for you, but their kind of drug".

He looked upset and said,

"I am sorry about that. I am not for war and what we are doing is not a good thing."

I asked him if he was a Democrat or Republican.

He said, "Democrat"

I then, asked, "Did you vote for Obama"?

He put his head down in shame and said unfortunately yes.

I replied back with a big smile on my face and said, "I voted for Gary Johnson".

He laughed and said, "The 1 percent huh? I always wanted to meet one of you guys".

I replied back and said, "Nice to meet you sir, but I think its time to wake up."

He then went back to Pot debate and said, "Medical Marijauna is fine I guess, but to make it legal is crazy". I know friends who are depressed all the time smoking that stuff and they all wine with Conspiracy theories".

I started grinding my teeth a little and told him, "I wonder why they are depressed? Maybe because Marijuana is a great tool to see through all the bull shit. I seriously can tell if some one is lying by smoking weed. Once I smoked I started seeing through it all. It makes you think more outside the box. So maybe every one is starting to realize we are just slaves"

I wish I added this. The only thing drinking does is it makes you stupid.

He never smoked before. Not once he said. I told him maybe he should try it some time before you go judging it.

Conversation ended but we talked a little more about other things. But seriously... Do you guys think Marijuana makes you depressed?

On an upside note. He heard about Rand Paul and likes Ron Paul. I told him to vote for Rand if he makes it. He said he would look into it because Hilary scares the heck out of him. So their are Democrats out there who do not like Hilary.

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I agree with choppinwood... I admit...

I was a hard core pot smoker for a large part of my life (for privacy reasons, I will not confirm or deny if I still actively smoke cannabis or not) and Ill be completely honest. The longer I smoked, the more "happy" feelings or perhaps a true "high" I was getting(I consider high and intoxicated two different things). It would be a energy rush, almost like I took a line of some blow, kinda. It was a rush, but my early years of smoking, it was more of a psychedelic, for lack of a better word, experience that was more just fun among friends and alot of laughing. However, what I noticed when taking relatively long breaks from weed, that I had faaar more energy, far less clumsy dumbass moments and to be honest, alot happier when NOT high and I think much of it is from my exacerbated life in, general procrastination habits and constant feeling that Im wasting my life and I got sad. Lastly, weed also caused me to be much more scatter brained and much more *face palm* moments, which actually, to my surprise even today, increased for the first week or two when taking a break and being weed free...

Having said that... I still love MJ and appreciate and am happy to be living in a legal state (WA). The benefits very much outweigh the negatives, but although I am not you or others, from my experience, I can say its better and more positive if being weighed overall p4p, to be living without pot (well, theres a hint.. I do still smoke quite often;-p.. I personally find it very enjoyable, but I try to force moderation in myself)

Ron Paul 2012

Yes it can... if it keeps you from accomplishments.

As I get older, I realize how satisfying completing a task is... the bigger the better. Smoking weed can help with the creativity and the starting of projects - but in the end, you'll need hard work to finish worthwhile achievements.

To be successful and happy, (IMO) one needs to be a thinker AND a doer AND a finisher.

It goes to "too much" of anything can be a problem, but eventually over the years I was tending to be too much of a thinker and starter of things, but not a finisher... which was depressing.

Marijuana laws make me

Marijuana laws make me depressed.

Pot

Pot makes me sleep much better. As far as depression goes, it was more than likely the alcohol that got whomever depressed. Not the Pot. Pot cures cancer. Look at Rick Simpson's "Run From the Cure" on YouTube.

Yea, like mentioned below it

Yea, like mentioned below it can have an effect. In some cases its effects arnt all good. However, its still alot less harmless than most other stuff.
I remember my friend used to smoke it and it made him hyper. I guess it also depends on the type too.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

The most likely reason Feds don't want herb legal

In a video I recently found, Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips were asked about cannabis and why MKUltra programmers were so against it. In quite a revealing answer, they describe how the neurotransmitters in our brains are stimulated by "herb" in a way that messes with their mind-control programming, weakening it. The Q&A on that starts at 4:29 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9JzRKQwsPY

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

that's not why

herb grows the prison industrial complex.. not only dies it afford federal, state, county prison developments, but provides jobs for vets and industrail trade with other nations that employ slave labor.. wacenhut and US prison industryes make far more than license plates.. priosners are paid next to nothing and jobs are sought after to pay for "luxurys" like phone time.

If they end the war on cannabis, they have a lot of people seeking housing, food, clothing, jobs the US doesn't have to offer.

Gaining and maintaining control depends on programming

Until robots replace the human element in all those areas you mentioned, programming of people is a necessary evil to tyrants. There is just not enough of them to restrain the tide of conscious humanity if their programming is broken by too many.

No one is saying that herb is the only way to break out of mind-control, but it obviously happened often enough with studied subjects that they made that brain-science supported observation.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

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Alcohol consumption and suicide

L. Sher

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From the Division of Neuroscience, Department of Psychiatry, Columbia University, New York, USA

Address correspondence to Dr L. Sher, Division of Neuroscience, Department of Psychiatry, Columbia University, 1051 Riverside Drive, Suite 2917, Box 42, New York, NY 10032, USA. email: ls2003@columbia.edu

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Abstract

About 90% of people in Western countries use alcohol at some time in their lives, and 40% experience temporary or permanent alcohol-related impairment in some area of life as a result of drinking. Multiple sociocultural and environmental factors influence suicide rates, and thus studies conducted in one nation are not always applicable to other nations.

Impulsivity and aggression are strongly implicated in suicidal behaviour. Constructs related to aggression and impulsivity confer additional risk for suicidal behaviour in people with alcohol dependence. Lower serotonin activity is tied to increased aggression/impulsivity, which in turn may enhance the probability of suicidal behaviour.

Acute alcohol use is associated with suicide. Suicide completers have high rates of positive blood alcohol. Intoxicated people are more likely to attempt suicide using more lethal methods. Alcohol may be important in suicides among individuals with no previous psychiatric history.

read more http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/1/57.full

Check this out my friend...

"The European Neuropsychopharmacology journal has published a study that has confirmed the positive effect of THC to negative stimuli.

The study, which was undertaken at the University Medical Center Utrecht in the Netherlands, claims that THC activates the endocannabinoid system naturally found in the brain to alter our response to negative images or emotions.

With this discovery, the study argues that marijuana may now be touted as a cure to depression and other mental ilnesses."

More http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/no_author/its-an-anti-dep...

If depressed he means

If depressed he means motivation sucker, then yes, I know people who fit that.

My cousin is one such person. He's 40, a habitual smoker, and a habitual sofa surfer. He used to be a damn good artist, he used to love to hit the gym, and he used to have goals, but then he found weed.

I'm not painting with a broad brush here, I do know people who function just fine on it. Joe Rogan the celebrity seems to fit that, but I also know many losers who can't seem to get away from the weed and the TV long enough to eat a proper healthy meal.

Weed is not the Almighty Savior people seem to want to promote it as. Just like alcohol, you need to step back and take a break. Reality is still pretty cool, and being high or drunk every single day is not a way to live.

I believe in the right to choose, but I also believe in freedom and not freedumb! This seems to be where simple minded folks tend to get confused....

Sorry

to break it to you but if we truly lived in a free world. Dumb people are going to be dumb. People are going to do harm to there bodies. People choose to be lazy. Its not being forced upon them. I smoke but I still go active, playing sports and exercising. I also know a friend of mine that doesn't do any drugs and all he does is sit at home and play video games all day. Should we make playing video games against the law too?

Marijuana can be really helpful to people. Is it the healthiest thing around? No, of course not but it is there life, not ours.

Looking back to High School

There seems to be a high correlation between using Marijuana and going absolutely nowhere in life.

I like your quote 'I also believe in freedom and not freedumb!'.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

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Dunno about the Marie Jeanne, but the so-called "news" sure do!

Dunno about the Marie Jeanne, but the so-called "news" sure do!

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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here's an unexpected angle when talking about legalizing pot

Bring up the drug war, but be in favor of the cops fighting it, not the users. Be sure to say how cops have to risk their lives busting dealers who provide a mere plant for a victimless crime. Cops have families, you know. Is it worth the life of that police officer to prevent someone from getting high?

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who's the dummy who down voted me?

all arguments are good arguments when it comes to more freedom. When you're dealing with people who have their heads full of stereotypes about potheads, I really think this is a good angle.

pot depression?

only when i don't have any :-)

seriously i'd say it depends on the person
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2400032/Could...

lazy? switch to sativa

too energetic? switch to indica

hybrid, best of both worlds

an all purpose drug...

worried about smoke
water pipe cleans it
or go all the way and vape
eatables, yet another option

Psychotropic effects Of Chronic Marijuana Consumption

Marijuana has many of the same effects as psychotropic medications. it affects the serotonin levels in the brain, much like other 'selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors' (SSRI's). It 'makes you happier' than you otherwise would be naturally; that is, until the effects wane; at which time, you 'come down' (become more depressed than you should be naturally).
There are other effects, of course. It seems to stop all ability to socio-actively progress (emotionally grow) during the time when the 'individual' is under it's effect.
In personal observation, I have noticed that so-called 'chronic' users seem to have the same emotional age at which they first started 'using'. This is NOT the same as their 'intellectual' or 'chronological' age, however. It is akin to dealing with REALLY SMART 5th-graders...
NAW. The idea that marijuana makes you 'emotionally' depressed is not, well, quite correct. It STUNTS EMOTIONAL GROWTH; it DEPRESSES THE NATURAL GROWTH OF EMOTION, it does not 'emotionally depress' the user (only aspects of natural progress).
The terminology is incorrect in this article, and the argument itself is based upon an incorrect assumption regarding the effects.

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MONTGOMERY SCOTT

As with everything else, it depends.

All drugs affect everyone differently. There is no common, consistent reaction. Some people do fine with weed, some don't. Just like with alcohol, some are fine and some are terrible drunks or have livers that can't handle it. The problem with weed is that almost all the evidence is anecdotal which, scientifically speaking, counts for about nill.
Saying someone "became schizophrenic" because of smoking weed is a ridiculous statement. Even if the timeline leads one to believe that, there would be no evidence to support how it actually happened. There aren't enough studies to draw realistic conclusions about anecdotal events.
That said, it makes me lazy so i don't really like to smoke much. I have at least one friend who is highly energized by smoking. I'm sure there are people who would be prone to depression and weed could be a trigger. I'm also sure the opposite is also true and it could help some that are prone to depression. One great thing about the trend toward legalization is that, hopefully, we will begin to see more scientific studies that can put to rest much of this speculation and demonization.

I heard....

That it leads to prolonged Daily Paul sessions 8)

The Internet is a "Gateway Drug..."

You could argue that:
Reading books leads to...
Using computers leads to...
Using the internet leads to...

It is crazy how thick the propaganda is, it lurks right beneath "normal conversation" waiting to come out.

Soon, computers and phones will be seen as "tools of terrorism."

A big mac is a gateway to

A big mac is a gateway to obesity, better make McDonalds illegal.

Should be

The Happy Meal...

Also, sex is a possible

Also, sex is a possible gateway to unwanted children. Make it illegal. Kidnapping another person is illegal, and if you do it, some guys with official looking uniforms will kidnap you and put you in a cage.

Its better for your health not to smoke Marijuana

I know of people who have developed schizophrenia from using this drug.

I also know many people who lives are worse off for smoking it.

Then again I drink alcohol and you could say the same things about that.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

Best Medicine Available

I can only offer anecdotal evidence, but I personally believe cannabis is the best medicine available for certain health conditions including: anxiety, PTSD, depression, chronic pain, lack of appetite and more.

Unlike Lorazepam or Xanax, cannabis is not physically addictive. Unlike antidepressants, there are no major withdrawal symptoms from quitting the use of cannabis (thus no increased suicide risks). Unlike NSAIDs, cannabis dulls pain without the negative side-effects such as stomach bleeding and ulcers.

Can cannabis make you depressed? I don’t think so. I’ve never seen anyone become depressed after consuming cannabis in any form.

Can cannabis make you schizophrenic? I have never seen any evidence of this, even in heavy users.

Is cannabis a gateway drug? About as much as coffee (caffeine) is.

Can cannabis be abused? Of course it can, but the abuse of cannabis is not nearly as physiologically or psychologically dangerous as the abuse of alcohol, pain medication, or even caffeine.

What cannabis can do is bring someone back from the brink. I have seen soldiers suffering while using antidepressants that go on to try cannabis and they realize that they no longer need their antidepressant medication. They no longer need Xanax.

When suffering from certain health conditions, cannabis improves the quality of life of the patient.

Okay I can agree it may help people who need pain/stress relief

But it has harmed far more healthy people than it has helped.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

its a mild hallucinogen...

Marijuana CAN make some people depressed. It can make it you happy, paranoid, energetic. It depends on your chemicals. To make a blanket statement one way or the other is a little naive.

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