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Jesus was crucified on a chestnut tree

Jesus was crucified on a chestnut tree

It was the hardest wood found in the area of the Roman Empire

Why I say this truth to you?

So just you know for many seasons
I was selling hot roasted chestnuts in Vancouver
Food prepared with Love
Food blessed with Love

One man told me

You can't change the world you can only change yourself

I told him
No
I can change the world

They called me the Polish Prince
No
I am the Prince of Peace
All wars will stop because of my aflamed fingertips
My aflamed hands

***************************

I dedicate this poem to Barack Obama.
Peace Brother!




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Yepper

It must be a conspiracy.

Everyone loves a good Zombie story!

Everyone loves a good Zombie story! Also it feels right so I'm pretty sure it is right.

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He never died

Our human bodies die.
The soul can't.

He was always ALIVE.

Think my friend.

God dies.

What whould happen to the entire Universe He Created?

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that's right

you've got it.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

and yet

And yet all the available early evidence suggests this actually happened.

Thank you

One man placed Himself on a tree willingly to be tortured and to die for all of us ---> for you and me.

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Yes

Dionysus was awesome!

Oh...did you mean cross? Jesus was hung on a cross, Dionysus was hung on a tree. Mythra was hung on a tree as well.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Please share this early "evidence" you speak of

heresay is not evidence

are you pulling our legs?

I mean, are you just trolling?

The reason I ask is that with every one of your posts, you both say or do something completely obvious and idiotic, and couple that with a condescending and insulting post where you say something ridiculous.

First you start out saying that Jesus was buried underground. Now in this post, you try to school us on hearsay but don't know how to spell it.

What gives? Are you really an opinionated idiot or a troll?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

jeez

You've got a lot of learning to do. You may want to start with the fact that there are more early pre- printing press manuscripts for the Bible than all ancient texts combined.

You may also want to ask yourself why an early first century Jewish community would suddenly and unexpectedly change their entire belief system that people would not be resurrected until the end of the world and start believing that resurrection had actually happened in their lives and were all willing to die for this unexpected and brand new claim.

You have a bit of learning to do too, my friend

Your first statement is a fallacy called "fallacy ad populum". Just because a larger group of people think something, doesn't mean it is true. Atlas Shrugged is second only to the Bible - does that mean it is true? No, it is still fiction. An overwhelming majority of Americans believe that their W2 Income Tax deduction pays for roads, and schools, etc.... You and I know that it all goes to the owners of the FED.

You second attempt is a fallacy of correlation. Just because, you claim , a group of Jews in the first century began new religious teachings and behavior, that doesn't mean that Jesus existed. If that was the case, then almost every other religion would be true as well. And, if you were to be honest, it wasn't 'sudden'. The first Gospel was written 70 years after Jesus was supposedly executed. It was 300 years before there were large groups of Christians. (And, why didn't Jesus ever learn to read or write? - No one ever has that answer)

The same change in thinking about resurrection and the end times happened after the identical man-god stories began with Osirus in Egypt, Dionysis in Greece, and Mythra in Persia, just to name a few.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

"...He went into the synagogue...and stood up for to read."

Luke 4:16-20
16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

Jesus never learned to read or write?!?!

Ive never heard that before. What are you talking about?

one small mistake...

The majority of the people there at the time were illiterate. The son of God would had been smarter to have visited the Han Dynasty instead!

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I dont know if

I believe that the majority of people were illiterate during that time period. I mean I learned in school that until public school came about nobody in america knew how to read but then I found out that about 98 percent of the population knew how to read at a college grade level. According to a lot of academic types only rich people knew how to read, and everyone else died at 25 until modern times.
That said Rome was a very diverse nation. Latin being the roman language and greek being the trade language, and for israel hebrew was the religious language. Furthermore there would have been arabian traders coming in from persia, and Jesus lived in egypt for a time. I would imagine that the average person knew how to speak 3 languages fluently by the time they reached adult hood. Furthermore Rome was extreemly civilized and had its own bureaucrat system, so reading would pretty much been a requirement for any adult living there. I said that just because I find it annoying that so many people assume that until modern times everyone was stupid, starved, and died young.
That said we find in luke 2:46-47 that Jesus was 12 and sitting among the learned people of his time astonishing them with his understanding. If your a Christian that is interpreted as He's God and knows all. If you are not a Christian that should mean he is well read.

Touche'

You get it....Confucius could write, he was his own band.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Well....

Have you ever seen anything he wrote?

People had language and written language at that time. Wouldn't it have been easier to write your thoughts down instead of letting someone 100 years later write down what they "heard" you had said. (like the Sermon on the Mount which was written a couple hundred years earlier and credited to Krishna). The Gospels were written anonymously many decades later after his 'alleged' death. At least hire a stenographer for Christ's sake.

I mean...Muhammed was a horrible person. But, in terms of his religion, at least he wrote his own stuff.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Yes, I've seen something He wrote...

Jesus = "The Word"

As in: "In the beginning was The Word and The Word was with God..." John 1:1 The Word creates. Indeed in Genesis 1 (the very first chapter of the Bible) the words "And God said" are used 9 times. God spoke the world into existence. (Perhaps much like the way that we humans often "speak reality" and manifest our own ups and downs by our own words. Such as "I am happy" or "I am sad". I AM THAT I AM - Exodus 3:13-14) In the beginning, with Adam and Eve, God was just "a voice in the garden". You may consider researching and pondering these ideas.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.

Indeed the entire Bible is "The Word". Recorded orally and written, read and recited from Alpha to Omega, it is The Living Word.

I don't expect you to fully understand, if you are willing to seek, you will be answered. God will persuade you as He has me.

2 Timothy 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Nope

Doesn't count. Either he was a person or he wasn't. If Jesus (actually Yeshua - changed by Pythagoras) did exist, then he was illiterate.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

That makes no sense

Why would they use their most valuable timber, the hardest and hardiest, to kill people on? No one would do that. Especially back then when making timbers was extremely labor-intensive, you would want to use the softest and most expendable.

No sayin'...just sayin'

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

I dont know about the chestnut tree

but I would imagine that they reused those crosses. I dont know for sure I am assuming.

Insurgents...

The most important ones died on chestnut trees.
Crucified.

Do your own research.

I know it by heart without having to search.

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Jesus was crucified on a chestnut tree

I don't get it. However, I could be missing something, as I usually am.

Thank you

The cross was a weapon.

Just like swords...

I do not want to use the name of the weapon.

The cross was made out of a tree.

Romans crucified thousands of folks for little reason.
All the time.
They harvested the hardest wood in the Middle East which was chestnut trees.

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wut? thousands of folks for

wut? thousands of folks for little reason?

crucifixion was reserved for serious political criminals...

also, as has been pointed out by many christians, it was the very propriety with which the roman pilate, acted, that made the act significant as redemption for all humanity. he acted correctly with all the authority and legitimacy of the roman law. if he was merely some tyrant, rogue, or criminal, or the representative of some band of savages, the crucifixion could hardly mean what it does. humanity, acting in its highest rung of proper authority, as it was conceived at the time, killed the son of god.

whether you believe the tale or not, it is only meaningful if you conceive the roman authority as deeply legitimate.

It's been a long time since I read the bible

but wasn't Jesus crucified along with two thieves?

It may say so in the Bible,

It may say so in the Bible, but it is unlikely that it happened. It is not like the Bible is gospel (heh).

not like that

not like that at all.

G. K. Chesteron: Rome was

G. K. Chesteron:

Rome was regarded as Man, mighty, though fallen, because it was the utmost that Man had done. It was divinely necessary that the Roman Empire should succeed—if only that it might fail. Hence the school of Dante implied the paradox that the Roman soldiers killed Christ, not only by right, but even by divine right. That mere law might fail at its highest test it had to be real law, and not mere military lawlessness. Therefore God worked by Pilate as by Peter. Therefore the mediæval poet is eager to show that Roman government was simply good government, and not a usurpation. For it was the whole point of the Christian revolution to maintain that in this, good government was as bad as bad. Even good government was not good enough to know God among the thieves. This is not only generally important as involving a colossal change in the conscience; the loss of the whole heathen repose in the complete sufficiency of the city or the state. It made a sort of eternal rule enclosing an eternal rebellion.