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Syria submitted proof of chemical weapons use by terrorists

Damascus, (SANA) – Deputy Foreign and Expatriates Minister, Fayssal Mekdad, stressed that the US and its allies had no proof of chemical weapons use by the Syrian government and they were encouraging the terrorists to use these weapons.

In a statement to reporters, Mekdad said that this western policy means that such weapons will be used soon by the same terrorist groups they have supported against the European peoples.

He clarified that Syria submitted to the UN investigation mission proof on the use of chemical weapons by the armed terrorist groups in all sites.

In an interview to BBC channel, Mekdad said, "We do not trust the western countries which support terrorists in Syria, and Jabhat al-Nusra on top; we have the right to defend ourselves, dignity and lands by using all means available and our people is ready for that."

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Yes, U.S., Britain and Israel All Use(d) Chemical Weapons

In the last ten years. Those Condemning Syria Have Themselves Recently Used Chemical Weapons

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-britain-and-israel-have...
We condemn all use of chemical weapons.

But the U.S. used chemical weapons against civilians in Iraq in 2004

Israel also used white phosphorous in 2009 during “Operation Cast Lead” (and perhaps subsequently). Israel ratified Protocol III of Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (“Protocol III”) – which outlaws the use of incendiary devices in war – in 2007. So this was a war crime.

Indeed, it is interesting to note that the U.S. previously called white phosphorous a chemical weapon when Saddam used it against the Kurds. Interestingly, it has just come out that the U.S. encouragedSaddam’s use of chemical weapons.

Moreover, the U.S. and Britain have been dropping depleted uranium in virtually every country they fight, which causes severe health problems. See this, this, this and this.

And Israel has been accused of using depleted uranium in Syria.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. But it is hypocritical for the U.S., Britain and Israel to say that we should bomb Syria because the government allegedly used chemical weapons.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-britain-and-israel-have...

http://www.dailypaul.com/297201/the-us-britain-and-israel-ha...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

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lol some of these comments

lol some of these comments i'm reading here are ridiculous lately.

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many agents here

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What twisted minds

Every knows, whether they agree or not, that Israel has the right to defend itself.. here we have a BRUTAL DICTATOR who has murdered his own people, chummed up with an opportunistic communist DICTATOR, who refuses to let the UN and Western States inspect where chemical weapons were used, that they claim came from the rebels, but no one can see (because they have NOTHING to hide).. and they say "they have a right to defend themselves from people who resent murdering dictatorships".

I really wish Obama would take Putin and Assad to the UN criminal court.. but really, that wouldn't do much good seeing the communist and Islamic murderers have the majority.

Well, it appears that Putin is in the catbird seat for becoming the DICtator of the global government, and with the excuse that "he has the right to defend himself" (at the expense of many lives).. NO ONE will escape the UN Agenda's culling of the human population by gas or otherwise.

Israel's Sacred Terrorism (1980), by Livia Rokach

Understanding the policy (destabilization of the Middle East), and who benefits.

Israel's Sacred Terrorism (1980), by Livia Rokach:
http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/essays/rokach.html#INTROD...

See also.

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties, by Oded Yinon:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%2...

To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation.

This is not a new idea, nor does it surface for the first time in Zionist strategic thinking. Indeed, fragmenting all Arab states into smaller units has been a recurrent theme. This theme has been documented on a very modest scale in the AAUG publication, Israel's Sacred Terrorism (1980), by Livia Rokach. Based on the memoirs of Moshe Sharett, former Prime Minister of Israel, Rokach's study documents, in convincing detail, the Zionist plan as it applies to Lebanon and as it was prepared in the mid-fifties.

~Khalil Nakhleh (July 23, 1982)

Above excerpt from the publishers notes in Israel Shahak's translation of:
A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties
by Oded Yinon

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%2...

And that was then

Some ideas remain, yet morphed.. Israeli would not employ the term, "dissolution of all existing ARAB states". If you understand Israel's Legal Case, within the UN which framed it, Israel today, is in an area taken and occupied by the Brittish Empire since the dissillusion of the Ottoman TURKISH Empire. Palestine was never an ARAB "state" of any sorts. It has always been a place of wars and rumors of wars. Whatever zionists dreamed long ago to establish a LN and then a UN with a democratic majority heavily outweighed by Communist and Islamic nations, Israel, has developed the best state in the world, that has all the ideas of the rEVOLution going for it.

Israel is thriving while surrounded by states in war or rumored wars.

Israel has built a wall to keep the violence outside the lgal area.. and as the population has boomed with Islam, and sharia is replacing constitutional laws, this has placed 1/2 million Jews seeking Amnety for iIsrael, which.. Israel is not the problem. The JEWS of Israel are the problem, eh? So for peace, the Arabs who never owned the land and have by the Koran a inbred hatred for Jews, which are ungowing growing pains by their dictators dragging them through hell to get there, are expelling Jews, who have no other place in the world to go, because the world has it's excuses for hating Jews in the name of Zionism or Israel..

Yet the Palestinian who dares

Yet the Palestinian who dares to resist illegal occupation and Jewish only colonization of the 22 per cent remaining of historic Palestine is called a terrorist. You have some nerve Granger. You are one deluded person. Please go to Israel. They need your passion for Jewish supremacism. Convert now.

It's not an illegal occupation

and if you know anything about how Israel was established you would KNOW that.

Much is known about the origins of the State of Israel ....

It is analogous to illegal aliens taking advantage of an economic collapse in the U.S. where millions of illegal aliens cross into Southern California, claim Southern California as an independent nation under the divine will of God, and start settlements in neighboring states.

It is a lot like a bunch of Europeans asserting they had valid claims to inhabited land and stealing it from a bunch of natives using force when the natives didn't agree.

No it's not

After a decade of anhilating JEWS and unwantables, Europe was seeing resistance as in Warsaw uprisings, and the people were tired of it.. so a deal was struck with the Balfor Treaty.. Britian (France) and the Grand Muffi (Germany) made a predetor trap out of Palestine.. The Mufti chased the people off.. have the JEWS exile to Palestine where they could be slaughtered. And they sunk ships and shot the JEWS coming to shore.. few survived thanks to the Jews who already lived there and the Druze.. and together they established an Israel (with the help of exhiled banker Rothchild.. the banker of the crowns and Church).. many wars, Israel has won each one.. the predetor trap failed, and Israel has done more than sustain but thrives.. and it continues to advance humanity while the rest of us are finding the world is going to Hell..

Today, there are 1.2 million Jews seeking a return to Israel because they are being systematically chased off their homelands by Sharia Laws.. 32 states in the US are now being challenged to adopt Sharia Laws.

You forgot to mention the decades before

which would include WW1 and the German people being sold out by ... you guessed it. I hate to burst your bubble of human nature but societies of people just don't wake up one morning and think to themselves ... hey let's screw with some people ... who should we screw with ... I dunno, how about Jews ... ok let's go screw with some Jews.

Gee ... I wonder what could tick a bunch of Germans off to the point where Jews find themselves on the shit list of a major political movement? I wonder why you did not include that detail in your post and would paint all Jews as innocent helpless victims. Did you miss something in the OT about how Jews fucked up time and time again? Did you miss anything in the OT about how many times Jews screwed people over? Did you miss anything in the OT about how many times Jews have rebelled against God? I think you should go back and read the Old Testament in its entirety before you start calling the kettle innocent and helpless.

Hey check it out ... a bunch of Americans woke up this morning and decided to pick on Mexicans. I wonder how that happened? They must just be anti-Mexican and woke up this morning with a racist hair up their ass that wasn't there yesterday. According to Granger that is just how these things happen ... without rhyme or reason ...

Sold out to

Rockefeller and socialist banking, Keneysian ecinomics and an industrial revolution that exhildred Rothchiole and the crown/church banking.

Actually, people do wake up one day, and stop being children who seek to discover the world in all people and as they look around on who to blame, they find the world has hated JEWS.. so why stop and think maybe it's not Jews?

Not ALL Jews are inncocent helpless victims, and neither are any race for that matter, so why do they get a free ride?

What's between God and Jews is for God to decide, not me.

RE: race

"Not ALL Jews are inncocent helpless victims, and neither are any race ..."

Did you mean religion? When did the term Jew become a race and code word for Hebrew? Has it been included on the United States census as a race without objection from Jews who insist the term means adherents of Judaism which is a religion?

Christians are commanded not to murder but a murderer can be Christian.

Jews are commanded not to murder but a murderer can be Jewish.

If organized religions are not rebuking self proclaimed practitioners who are not observing doctrines of their respective faiths which enables a flock to be associated with bad apples ... whose fault is it for failing to rebuke?

Get behind Me, Satan ... You are a stumbling block to Me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.

It is my understanding

After Jesus and the second covenant, the Greeks replaced Hebrew with Jew.

Your understanding has no merit

To assert Jew is a race which has been vehemently denied on intellectual merits by leading or prominent Jews in the official records of US history is ... well ... it would be like asserting the emancipation proclamation didn't happen ...
.

I didn't say that. I'm saying:

Jews belong to the human race.

Do people actually buy your doublespeak?

"Jews belong to the human race" = (code phrasing for) Jews belong to the human race therefore constituting a unique, distinct, sub class of the human race called ... "Jews" ... but I didn't actually say Jew was a race I implied it using conflated double talk without actually directly saying it because Jew denotes singular such as one specific religion whereas Jews denotes plural such as a certain group of people who belong to the human race.

Since I'm not selling

I haven't bothered to see what people are buying. The Jews I'm refering have little to do with religion.. it has to do with politics, zionism and Israel.. all have the right to exist.

And there we have it ...

The meaning of the term Jew is politically motivated. Prominent or leading intellectual Jews denounce Jew is a race when it is politically convenient and then claim it is a race when politically convenient.

Since the meaning of the term at any given time is purely politically motivated perhaps there ought to be the Republican, Democrat, and Jew parties.

Political motivations are the things of men not God ...

Rather,

I think God is beyon our ability to reason, and religions can help us in many ways find reason, morals, community, security, freedom, peace, love, hope, faith is all religions, depending on the cultures.

The term Jew can be used in many ways, and it is.

My point is that I believe that this anti-Jew/Zionist/Israel tone is not an accident, or based on truth, but is being communicated on a number of fronts, because there are Jews who are like "Repuzels".. they make gold out of straw.. and they are coveted by the powerful, and hiden with slander and organizations like AIPAC, who claims to represent them, but they don't. They represent the MIC wishes.

The fact the Israel is thriving while the rest of the world wonders if WWIII is on the verge.. I'm saying.. look past the pressure to be anti-zionist/Israel/Jew.. for there are solutions within a state that thrives.. if you want solutions.. which I do. If all I want to do it complain, I can't think of a better place to dump than on Israel, after all, everyone else does.

The only aspect of truth with regard to "Jews" I care about

is credibility.

You have stated:
"The term Jew can be used in many ways, and it is."

Yup, it is. It has already been pointed out it is claimed to mean different things depending on which way political winds are blowing. You know what that means for me? It means I do not give a crap about what anything someone has to say who self identifies as a member of a group of people which plainly uses imprecise language for political gain. That is my definition of a politician.

I have zero pressure regarding the whole anti-zionist/Israel/Jew issue. I do not give a crap about "Jews" the same way I don't give a crap about "Democrats" or "Republicans." To me they are all just talking heads. You just happen to be conflating the term Jew as if you are a mouthpiece for "Jews."

I can assure you if there was a mouth piece for "Democrats" or "Republicans" spouting some off something I perceived as BS I would likely chime in. Hell in another thread there was a long back and forth about the video released by Bradley Manning and my opinions about a use of deadly force. In that thread a few people said don't feed the trolls or waste their time the same way that type of stuff is routinely posted behind your comments.

Sometimes I just let it pass and sometimes I weigh in. Misuse of the term "Jew" is a pet peeve because I wholly believe it to be a term of political convenience but not understood by most people as a term of political convenience. If I were politically motivated I would also object to the United States having allies. The founders had the right philosophy. Friendly with all, allies with none.

But just to be clear regarding my pro-semetic opinion of "Jews" if the term is somehow conflated to mean Hebrew people descending from Abraham, Abraham as the father of many nations as numerous as the stars, twelve posterity in a tribal sense belonging to a certain individual renamed Israel in the context of a nation:

If God's chosen people are obeying God in all things which includes occupying lands given to them by God ... those people don't need to rely on the United States for anything nor do they need to be considered special allies of the United States. If God be for them because they have chosen to love God by obeying all of his commands to the precise letter, at all times, to be God's holy ambassadors shining forth brightly upon the earth, to set the good example ... who can possibly be against them? What can the United States possibly do to protect the State of Israel which God can't?

The way I see it

Those people do not rely in the US. The US relies on them and so does much of the world for solutions, because Israel advances humanity with it's government that protects the right of the geniuses within to think and create, and the right of business people to turn those whoughts into products.. and that's where the US invests, and then some corpoeration wins the bid and gets a patent, and like John Galt's engine, it sits there waiting to be discovered and produced while the patent owner is looking for war way to apply the invention to a Military Indistrail Complext contract to make huge profits.. and this is what needs to stop in America, to stop the perpetual wars. As it is, most technology we have today, the military had long before it went public.

As far as the US protecting Israel, I think the only thing it might do is provide what specific help Israel asks for. Other than that, I think we would all do ourselves a big favor by being more like Israel and less like palestine under this AUTHORITY for a UN Agenda, which Israel, to their credit, is not part of.

I thiunk Israel is going to do very very well, so I do not worry about Israel.. I worry about the US with so many angry, hopeless people looking for their free cell phone from Obama.

I think you should have your vision checked ...

RE: "Those people do not rely in the US. The US relies on them ... "

Would that be a reason the United States has ~300 of Israel's nuclear weapons and a crap ton of other Israeli armaments because the United States is relying on Israel? Oh wait ...

Would that be a reason all the top news headlines for the past week read U.S. Consults Israel before strikes akin to:

"Israel's decision to launch an air strike against a suspected nuclear site in Syria allegedly set up with the help of North Korea came after Israel shared intelligence with the US, it was reported today."

RE: " ... because Israel advances humanity ... "

"An amendment to the Israel Entry Law – infamously known as the “Slavery Law” –passed its final vote in Knesset on Monday, 16 May 2011, in a 26-6 vote, despite wide opposition from human rights organizations and leading legal experts. The law was passed on the very first day of the Knesset’s Summer Session.

The new law severely harms fundamental human rights of approximately 55,000 migrant workers in the nursing professions in Israel, the majority of which are women. The law enables the Minister of Interior to restrict the number of times a migrant caregiver can change employers, to limit workers to specific geographical areas, and to confine them to specific subsections of the nursing services. The amendment constitutes an attempt to circumvent the High Court of Justice and to restore an earlier “binding arrangement” of migrant workers to their employers, which the High Court has already criticized in 2006 for “creating a modern form of slavery” following a petition by five human rights organizations."

[On a side note and purely for my intellectual humor ... To Whom It May Concern: Try getting this next official United States government link out of Google search muwahahaha]

"2010 Human Rights Report: Israel and the occupied territories"
http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/nea/154463.htm

"Principal human rights problems were institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against Arab citizens, Palestinian residents of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (see annex), non-Orthodox Jews, and other religious groups; societal discrimination against persons with disabilities; and societal discrimination and domestic violence against women, particularly in Bedouin society. While trafficking in persons for the purpose of prostitution decreased in recent years, trafficking for the purpose of labor remained a serious problem, as did abuse of foreign workers and societal discrimination and incitement against asylum seekers."

I don't think I even need to read or respond to the rest of your post. I find myself in 100% agreement with your post because everything you assert is 100% true with no contradicting evidence in existence (eye roll) ...

Well

Your sources are UN Agenda based, so if you are for a UN Agenda, then by all means, roll your eyes..

There are Arabs in the Kessnet, Arabs in the IDF, very proud Israeli Arabs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z22TirkZj4M

Oh please

You are going to link a video which starts at 1947? Give me a break. Video starts off with "lets be honest about history," what a joke. How dishonest can you be starting at 1947 when all of the illegal immigration occurred prior to 1947 peaking in the late 1930's ...

Furthermore what principal allows someone to take your land and give it to someone else? One reason violence has escalated in the world is because a serious lack of respect for anything resembling a just administration of justice.

About the only thing the United States and Israel have in common is that they have both increased territorial borders by a bunch of illegals taking land from natives using force or threats of.

If I morally object to illegals stealing land from American natives and advocate the United States at a bare minimum observe treaties with natives by respecting the territorial boundaries of those treaties which have been repeatedly encroached upon it's a safe bet I am not going to advocate for any side in Palestine responsible for an original encroachment who continues to encroach. I don't think the passage of 90+ years makes might right in the same way I don't think the passage of 225+ years makes might right.

Am I proposing any solutions? Nope ... I am just commenting that it is unlikely to reach a solution with one side basing their legitimacy on propaganda not fully rooted in an accurate presentation of history.

Regarding the comment sources are UN Agenda based ... I only provided one source, an official link to the United States government. It can hardly be wholly deemed to be UN Agenda based when the entire conversation this past week has been about the executive justifying going it alone without the UN Security Council.

Two places we disagree

The UN established Israel.. ALL NATIONS.. you might watch The Legal Case for Israel to learn what the4 international laws are and why Israel exists and has every right to exist.. and what's more, you might begin wondering why you only pick on Israel, as if you don't care about the other contries that were established at the same time, their refugees, the millions murdered and land taken, is taken today.. much larger than Israel... It's a 46 minute film of FACTS (learn something of American government too).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2x5UvjUs4

Because the US would never get the UN Security council to go along with it, and because the UN is inept.. just as the Palestinian refugees from Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Turkey..

Not even ...

Wikipedia entries, which can be heavily edited by pro-agenda driven users, backs your assertions up. WTH is this shit ... "The UN established Israel.. ALL NATIONS"

First off you lying sack of crap the United Nations was established by less than fifty governments [50]. That is not ALL NATIONS. Go disagree with this fact:

"The UN officially came into existence on 24 October 1945 upon ratification of the Charter by the five then-permanent members of the Security Council—France, the Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States—and by a majority of the other 46 signatories"

Second you complete lying sack of crap in 1948 there are ~60 member states which is not ALL NATIONS. Go debate this factual list of U.N. Membership:

1945 Argentina, Australia, Belarus (Belorussia), Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Liberia, Luxembourg, Mexico, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Russia (U.S.S.R.)1, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Syria, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela, Yugoslavia2
1946 Afghanistan, Iceland, Sweden, Thailand
1947 Pakistan, Yemen3
1948 Myanmar (Burma)
1949 Israel
1950 Indonesia
1955 Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Jordan, Laos, Libya, Nepal, Portugal, Romania, Spain, Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
1956 Japan, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia
1957 Ghana, Malaysia
1958 Guinea
1960 Benin (Dahomey), Burkina Faso (Upper Volta), Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo (capital at Brazzaville), Congo (Zaire; capital at Kinshasa), Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Cyprus, Gabon, Madagascar, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Togo
1961 Mauritania, Mongolia, Sierra Leone, Tanzania4
1962 Algeria, Burundi, Jamaica, Rwanda, Trinidad and Tobago, Uganda
1963 Kenya, Kuwait
1964 Malawi, Malta, Zambia
1965 The Gambia, Maldives, Singapore
1966 Barbados, Botswana, Guyana, Lesotho
1968 Equatorial Guinea, Mauritius, Swaziland
1970 Fiji
1971 Bahrain, Bhutan, Oman, Qatar, United Arab Emirates
1973 The Bahamas, Germany5
1974 Bangladesh, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau
1975 Cape Verde, Comoros, Mozambique, Papua New Guinea, São Tomé and Príncipe, Suriname
1976 Angola, Samoa, Seychelles
1977 Djibouti, Vietnam
1978 Dominica, Solomon Islands
1979 Saint Lucia
1980 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Zimbabwe
1981 Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, Vanuatu
1983 Saint Kitts and Nevis
1984 Brunei
1990 Liechtenstein, Namibia
1991 Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, North Korea, South Korea
1992 Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, San Marino, Slovenia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan
1993 Andorra, Czech Republic6, Eritrea, Macedonia, Monaco, Slovakia6
1994 Palau
1999 Kiribati, Nauru, Tonga
2000 Tuvalu
2002 East Timor, Switzerland
2006 Montenegro2
2011 South Sudan

Third you lying sack of crap Israel was not formed by the UN or in one single event:

"In the late-19th century, persecution of Jews, particularly in Europe, led to the creation of the Zionist movement and some early British and American support for the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.[1] Following the British conquest of Syria, the Balfour Declaration in World War I and the formation of the Mandate of Palestine, Aliyah (Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel) increased and gave rise to Arab–Jewish tensions, and a collision of the Arab and Jewish nationalist movements. Israeli independence in 1948 was marked by massive migration of Jews from both Europe and the Muslim countries to Israel, and of Arabs from Israel leading to the extensive Arab–Israeli conflict."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

Fourth you lying sack of crap if there can be a singular event of the State of Israel's creation it is going to be this one:

"On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over Palestine expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and approved a proclamation which declared the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel,[12] Nakba Day for Palestinians."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel,_Palestine,_and_the_Unit...

"On 14 May 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization[8] and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel," a state independent upon the termination of the British Mandate for Palestine"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Fifth you lying sack of crap let me TELL YOU WHY I AM ALLEGEDLY only picking on Israel because I did not bring the topic up. I am a topic respondent in this thread not a topic originator however let the foreign policy of non-intervention be clear:

1. No US foreign aid to any country. Americans can provide foreign aid individually as the generous people they are.
2. US weapons are for the US which means the US can retake possession of its nuclear arsenal in Israel which Israel denies having and refuses to sign any international nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
3. No US allies, only trading partners. That means Israel, Saudi Arabia or any other middle eastern, european, asian, etc. bitch sucking on the US nipple has to go. The world loved sound U.S. currencies before the fiat petro dollar and I am confident the world would be happy to use a sound US currency when we go back to one.
4. Don't call the US for anything other than to advertise some shit you would like to sell because the US has got plenty of shit it would like to sell there.

However I don't want a reputation as a biased peace extremist because the Lord knows I am not Christ so I will leave the door open for neocons to sway me to make the world a safer place being a violent warmongering evil asshole in the following circumstances (I am open to applying these two examples to any other region where people can't get along if a good argument can be made the world will be safer by having a giant parking lot there instead):

If people in the middle east can't figure out among themselves how to get along with their neighbors and their shit starts stinking so bad it drifts across the Atlantic ocean the US reserves the right to send the entire region back to the fossil fuel age by turning it into a giant parking lot.

If people in the middle east can't figure out among themselves how to get along with their neighbors and the Atlantic ocean turns red from all the blood spilled the US reserves the right to send the entire region back to the fossil fuel age by turning it into a giant parking lot.

But only if neocons agree to level the whole region and not try to pick winners or losers.

I have no interest in watching any videos you link when the basic text of your comments are so blatantly over the top untrue. If you were making some kind of reasonable effort to present accurate history maybe I would watch something you post but when the preceding paragraph is so blatantly false [in ALL CAPS no less] I'm like ... meh ... not wasting my time on that link.

On a final note, if "the UN is inept" and "[t]he UN established Israel" then Israel has no legitimacy because it derives from ineptness.

//Wikipedia entries, which

//Wikipedia entries, which can be heavily edited by pro-agenda driven users, backs your assertions up. WTH is this shit ... "The UN established Israel.. ALL NATIONS"//

Do you have an alternative to wiki?

//First off you lying sack of crap the United Nations was established by less than fifty governments [50]. That is not ALL NATIONS. Go disagree with this fact:

"The UN officially came into existence on 24 October 1945 upon ratification of the Charter by the five then-permanent members of the Security Council—France, the Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States—and by a majority of the other 46 signatories"//

At the time Israel was created ALL NATIONS of the UN at that time approved, thus it is ALL NATIONS of the UN.

//Second you complete lying sack of crap in 1948 there are ~60 member states which is not ALL NATIONS. Go debate this factual list of U.N. Membership:

In 1948 ALL MEMBERS OF THE UN voted for the establishment of Israel. Name who was a member of Israel in 1948 that did not vote for the establishment of Israel?

//Third you lying sack of crap Israel was not formed by the UN or in one single event://

I never claimed Israel was established by one event.. I am saying ISRAEL IS ESTABLISHED BY ALL NATIONS OF THE UN (1948) and under treaties with the UN and others within International Law, Israel will continue to exist and THRIVE.

//Fourth you lying sack of crap if there can be a singular event of the State of Israel's creation it is going to be this one:

"On May 14, 1948,//

Let me ask you why you don't mention any other state that was created the same day the Brittish Occupation/Mandate, not by, not of, but FOR Palestine? Like Jordan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan

//Fifth you lying sack of crap let me TELL YOU WHY I AM ALLEGEDLY only picking on Israel because I did not bring the topic up. I am a topic respondent in this thread not a topic originator however let the foreign policy of non-intervention be clear:

1. No US foreign aid to any country. Americans can provide foreign aid individually as the generous people they are.//

No foreign aid to any country, but to the UNAID, that's OK? And if not, why not pick on the UN instead of Israel?

//2. US weapons are for the US which means the US can retake possession of its nuclear arsenal in Israel which Israel denies having and refuses to sign any international nuclear non-proliferation treaty.//

I think Israel is wise to not have much to do with the UN. I wish we were more like Israel. Israel has some SMART people. America wouldn't have a nuke if it wasn't for Jews.

// 3. No US allies, only trading partners. That means Israel, Saudi Arabia or any other middle eastern, european, asian, etc. bitch sucking on the US nipple has to go. The world loved sound U.S. currencies before the fiat petro dollar and I am confident the world would be happy to use a sound US currency when we go back to one.//

This is why I like Israel's government. Is Israel the police of the world? No. They just defend themselves.. and they trade with most everyone.. China says Israel is where all the genusis on Earth live, and India is in LOVE with Israel for the agriculture and solar advancements.. Israel does huge trade.. they have come up with an innovative based economic plan I'm looking at.. it's as if they have come to understand that the real gold in the world is human innovation..

// 4. Don't call the US for anything other than to advertise some shit you would like to sell because the US has got plenty of shit it would like to sell there.//

What does the US have to sell besides weapons and fast food chains?

//However I don't want a reputation as a biased peace extremist because the Lord knows I am not Christ so I will leave the door open for neocons to sway me to make the world a safer place being a violent warmongering evil asshole in the following circumstances (I am open to applying these two examples to any other region where people can't get along if a good argument can be made the world will be safer by having a giant parking lot there instead):

If people in the middle east can't figure out among themselves how to get along with their neighbors and their shit starts stinking so bad it drifts across the Atlantic ocean the US reserves the right to send the entire region back to the fossil fuel age by turning it into a giant parking lot.

If people in the middle east can't figure out among themselves how to get along with their neighbors and the Atlantic ocean turns red from all the blood spilled the US reserves the right to send the entire region back to the fossil fuel age by turning it into a giant parking lot.

But only if neocons agree to level the whole region and not try to pick winners or losers.//

OK, well it seems to me you have more work to do on this, but I can accept that this is how you feel abut it.

//I have no interest in watching any videos you link when the basic text of your comments are so blatantly over the top untrue. If you were making some kind of reasonable effort to present accurate history maybe I would watch something you post but when the preceding paragraph is so blatantly false [in ALL CAPS no less] I'm like ... meh ... not wasting my time on that link.//

I stand by what I said.. sorry I didn't word it for YOU, when the Brittish Mandate ended and the UN established states, Israel was ONE, that ALL MEMBERS of the UN at theat time APPROVED.

//On a final note, if "the UN is inept" and "[t]he UN established Israel" then Israel has no legitimacy because it derives from ineptness.//

No, the world has since gone on, and if you read that wiki about Jordan, you might begin to see why Israel exists and will long past many nations, even the US will probabally fall before Israel.

Whatever ...

"I stand by what I said.. sorry I didn't word it for YOU, when the Brittish Mandate ended and the UN established states, Israel was ONE, that ALL MEMBERS of the UN at theat time APPROVED."

Lying sack of crap:

"On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions and 1 absent, in favour of the modified Partition Plan. The final vote was as follows:

In favour, (33 countries, 72% of voting):

Latin American and Caribbean (13 countries):

Bolivia

Brazil

Costa Rica

Dominican Republic

Ecuador

Guatemala

Haiti

Nicaragua

Panama

Paraguay

Peru

Uruguay

Venezuela

Western European and Others (12 countries):

Belgium

Denmark

France

Iceland

Luxembourg

Netherlands

Norway

Sweden

Australia

New Zealand

Canada

United States

Eastern European (5 countries):

Byelorussian SSR

Czechoslovakia

Poland

Ukrainian SSR

Soviet Union

African (2 countries):

Liberia

South Africa

Asia-Pacific (1 country)

Philippines

Against, (13 countries, 28% of voting):

Asia-Pacific (9 countries):

Afghanistan

India

Iran

Iraq

Lebanon

Pakistan

Saudi Arabia

Syria

Yemen

Western European and Others (2 countries):

Greece

Turkey

African (1 country):

Egypt

Latin American and Caribbean (1 country):

Cuba

Abstentions, (10 countries):

Latin American and Caribbean (6 countries):

Argentina

Chile

Colombia

El Salvador

Honduras

Mexico

Asia-Pacific (1 country):

Republic of China

African (1 country):

Ethiopia

Western European and Others (1 country):

United Kingdom

Eastern European (1 country):

Yugoslavia

Absent, (1 country):

Asia-Pacific (1 country):

Thailand"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_General_Assembly_Resolution_181

I suggest you read the wikipedia entry in its entirety and then I suggest

"Do you have an alternative to wiki?"

you read every single source cited in the foot notes including this one #[22]:

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1947/dec/11/pales...

Furthermore this: "In 1948 ALL MEMBERS OF THE UN voted for the establishment of Israel."

Is a complete misrepresentation of history, the intent and purpose of U.N. recommendations, events which led to Britian trying to pawn off to the U.N. an illegal immigration problem it created, Britian tyring to pawn off to the U.N. the fallout brokering bad deals with different parties over the same land after the fall of the Ottoman Empire:

"The partition plan was never fully implemented."

-Same Article under section titled Subsequent events

Finally:

"America wouldn't have a nuke if it wasn't for Jews."

You say some of the dumbest shit ever. Prove it. The dumb ass who asserts, proves.