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100% proof it was not Sarin or any acetylcholinesterase inhibitor class chemical weapon.

It's 100% BS from ANY side that claims it's sarin.

Sarin is a potent inhibitor of the enzyme acetylcholinesterase. This means that the people with LD would be twisted into a ball and most likely the muscle attachment points would be sheared off at the bone in some cases because of extreme contraction of every muscle in the body.

The biggest unequivocally undeniable FACT that this is not Sarin or any VX class nerve agent... the pupils are not contracted to a pin prick in ANY of the affected people in the videos or pictures. People a few km downwind of this so called "chemical attack" would have had extreme contraction of the pupils, at a minimum, and the pupil contraction would become evident within a few seconds even at extremely low doses.

So if Russia or the US or ANYONE says its Sarin or ANY VX class acetylcholinesterase inhibitor... you can be 100% they are lying.

edit for clarity
I'm not saying it wasn't some kind of chemical weapon. But you can be 100% sure its not a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor class chemical(which sarin, and the vast majority of fast kill CW's are.)

2nd edit for what sarin exposure would look like
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Opi...

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Are they not claiming it is

Are they not claiming it is Sarin gas now. So just more proof it is a false flag event.

Kerry just announced he has, quote, "proof"

Hilarious, if it wasn't so sad.

White House Claims Proof Assad Used Sarin Gas

The Obama administration says it has physical proof that the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad used sarin gas in an attack.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732393260457904...

PS I have an updated post on reddit about sarin with more proof
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1lj1pv/white_house_cla...

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

I believe Kerry

my bet is the link between Assad and the Jihadists.

isnt the type of gas

isnt the type of gas irrelevant, the fact that their was a false flag with something to get us to war is the relevant issue. Good observation though

Whatever It Is

It's not worse than getting shot in the guts and laying there suffering and bleeding until you die. It's not worse than having a bomb blow your arms and legs off, or burn your skin and flesh to the bone and eyeballs right out of your head. It's not worse than having napalm rain down on you while you run around until you pass out from shock and then die. It's just more jive being sold to the foolish.

Another possibility is that

Another possibility is that the pictures and videos are not of actual victims.

This could happen either if the whole thing was a fake or if there were real chemical attacks but the videos purporting to show the victims were staged.

So I won't rule out VX or related nerve agents on the basis of the videos not showing the correct symptoms.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Here is my theory.

It is not Sarin or the typical chemical weapons that were used previously in the middle east that were supplied by the US. This is something new. We should be looking at how these chemicals are being delivered. The only people that I think are powerful enough to create such a direct and devastating effect would be Donald Rumsfield and Dick Cheney. They have the chemical companies working on more ways to control the population. They are poisoning almost every single person in the United States. Now they have a new false flag weapon. Their next target.... You guessed it. America.

Why not nerve gas?

I don't think it was the Syrian government responsible, because using nerve gas would be to shoot themselves in the foot. A dude whose family has been in power since 1971 may be mean, but he's not stupid.

But, why not nerve gas? If it was mustard gas or phosgene, why not just call a spade a spade?

I agree people would be all twisted up at first from nerve gas, but I don't think they'd stay that way once they were dead.

If not nerve gas, then what? And why? It would be easier to actually do it than fake it.

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You remain in the position you die in.

In my first year of dental school I saw an autopsy photo of a guy who was shot and killed instantly by the police while he was sprinting. When he was on the cadaver table with rigor mortis he was in a 'pose' of running.

I think I remember the professor saying that they couldn't fit the body into a bag, but I'm not positive.

deacon's picture

sounds to me

the runner either died in its tracks, remained that way,with the same pose then fell down
he either fell down upon impaction of said bullet,his body didn't convulse,the arms didn't bounce off ground,but remained in that position
until rigor mortis set in
And why would they show dental students cadavers? do they practice on them
to get better or something?
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

Dental students dissect cadavers.

It's how you study gross anatomy. We don't practice dentistry on cadavers (though we do practice root canals on extracted teeth). You take a bunch of practical exams and you go station to station with nerves, vessels, muscles, and other anatomical structures tagged.

He died before he hit the ground. I'm assuming they didn't move the body for a few hours.

Our professor was a pathologist and she thought the case was interesting. It probably violated some arbitrary government laws, but that happens often.

I agree you stay in the position you die in,

but rigor mortis doesn't last, and all of those bodies were clearly messed with and moved after they died, to the extent of being wrapped in sheets.

Not saying they did or didn't die of nerve gas, but my position is that faking it would be harder than actually doing it.

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417