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"Why are you calling me a racist?"

Ah, yes. The race card. Played so often. Tends to trump political discussion more than one would expect. But I have an idea.

Two can play that game.

The race card, as it is usually played, is a logical fallacy known as red herring, which is a statement intended to distract from the subject.

If Joe says, "Obama is wrong about healthcare," and Larry says, "You're just a racist," then we know that Larry is not discussing the subject. He is trying to change the subject and distract. Probably because he is incapable of engaging in the conversation.

Today, the race card is the #1 red herring used in political discussions. So, let's start to use it as a tool to get people to see THEIR OWN logical fallacies.

A conversation might go like this:

Joe: I am concerned that all this war mongering about Syria might be another situation like Iraq where they claimed Hussein had WMD's when he really didn't.

Larry: Ah, yes ... another conspiracy theory! Everything's one big conspiracy with you, huh?

Joe: Why are you calling me a racist?

Larry: What ???!!!&@^?? I did NOT call you a racist!

Joe: Yes, I know, but you are trying to change the subject just like when people call someone a racist for no reason. You have no reason to talk about conspiracy theories. I brought up a legitimate point that the government lied about Iraq and WMD's and you responded with something completely unrelated, just like if someone called you a racist for not agreeing with them. Now, do you want to discuss Syria in an intelligent manner, or do you just want to call each other names?




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Same is true with "Anti-Semite" or "Self Hating Jew"

Its even true inside our freedom circles... think of the mean words thrown at minarchists as illogical sellouts and so on.

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HA HA HA

If you believe that line of reasoning will work, I say go test it out a bit.

If you want to awaken and enlighten others, you get more without being confrontational.

In sales when they use those tricks to deflect the conversation. Its usually best to ignore the false objections as unreal. Focus on or repeating the objection is the bigest mistake a new sales person does. Never win the mind of the prospect that way. Its best to not get side tracked. Simply drop back in the conversation and repeat the earlier statement and see if you can get back on track.

If the other person will not follow you do not have enough respect of raport to continue and its best to change the conversation to somthing that will get that person back following your conversation.

Then after you have that person back into your conversational control again try to present the information that got them side tracked.

If after 3 or more rebutals its best to move on to somone who will be more open to listening.

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You Sovereign

are absolutely correct. (Although 3 chances might be 2 too many ; )

Additional point: One of our "jobs" in this revolution is to bring awareness to people. If/when we effectively do this, THEY are now responsible for their own conscience - not us. So keep on keeping on!

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

I haven't yet but ...

dude !!!!!

Just check your posting history.

You obviously have an obsession.

God Bless.

If you do that, you're going off-message.

If you do that, you're going off-message. Essentially, you just changed the subject...

We don't need politicians and media personalities to tell us that White people are generally non-racial. That trait is the reason we have official government policies, of mass immigration and assimilation in ALL White countries and ONLY White countries.

These policies are directly causing the loss of White identity in ALL countries founded by Whites. Look at cities in which Whites have already lost majority status to other ethnic groups that refuse to be assimilated... When you BRING the third world into White countries, you GET third world conditions in White countries.

Here are a couple of "acceptable" collectivist groups: African nationalism, (Pan-Africanism), American Indian movement (Pan-Indianism), Black nationalism, Chicano nationalism, Deaf culture, Disability rights movement, Ethnicity (Polyethnicity), Ethnocentrism, Equal Rights Amendment (except for normal Whites), Fat acceptance, Feminism, Gay Rights, Hip Hop activism, Homo hop, Cultural pluralism, National Council of La Raza, Political correctness, Puerto Rican nationalism, Queercore, Queer nationalism, Women's rights, Zionism.

But, let someone publicly support a White identity group, and they're called the R-word, or a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this race problem. Everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and "assimilating" with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a race problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this? And what kind of psycho Black man would not object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of geNOcide against my race, the White race, Liberals and "respectable" Conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

Canned 'white nationalist' response

courtesy of the BUGS tool:

http://s16.postimg.org/c3rail0jp/70996024.jpg

It's kind of like a white supremacist version of GIYUS' Megaphone. It's no surprise that supremacists need these tools, given that they aren't exactly known for their ability to think for themselves.

Yes

Yes. Except that I don't know anyone, who talks about any "supremacy", except for antiWhites. That is antiWhitism. We do feel that our way of life is worth preserving and is better for US. Should Whites, who wish to live in peace among their own people, not have that freedom?

It is a repetitive message, because the masses don't think for themselves and because that is what is necessary to break the years of negative conditioning that has been applied to make them antiWhite. But, you should also have linked to http://www.whitakeronline.org/ so that your readers could learn more about the geNOcide of the White race and destruction of our way of life. I've never seen that particular 'tool'. Do you have a link for it as well?

It's not a anti-white issue

rather it is an anti-Christian issue. And because most of the European nations have deep Christian roots, so to destroy these nations' Christian fabrics, race become a playing card. Now, of course the Christian nations have pretty much all been de-Christianized already, but still, some Christian ideas and norms lingers on, so to bring these nations down, the fastest way, is to bring non-Christian pagans from third world countries to accelerate the demise of these "Christian" nations.

Nobody is calling for mass

Nobody is calling for mass immigration and assimilation of non-Brazilians into Brazil.
Nobody is calling for mass immigration and assimilation of non-Mexicans into Mexico.
Nobody is calling for mass immigration and assimilation of non-Blacks into the Congo.

Nobody here, as near as I can tell, wishes

explicitly for mass immigration and mass assimilation. It's just that we believe in liberty and the free market, and are willing to live in a world without centralized government control, in whatever form society evolves into in that environment.

The United States has not

The United States has not evolved naturally since the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Did you get to vote on that act?

This is not evolution. It is a program of mass immigration and forced assimilation to destroy the White race and culture in all White founded nations. It is geNOcide.

If you aren't wishing for it, then work against it, because it is happening and it is a crime against humanity.

Anti-whites like to say Diversity is “freedom” for non-Whites to enter White founded countries and “mix in” with whomever they wish.

However, Whites are not allowed to refuse this freedom, so it is the anti-White diversity that we are FORCED to accept.

What you don’t realize is that we have not consented to having our borders opened to floods of non-White immigrants, PERIOD.
This is something that has been FORCED. It’s geNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code for anti-White

Freedom of association means you

can buy whatever house you wish to in whatever part of the world you wish to without legal impediment. It does not mean you have the right to legally prohibit anyone else, of whatever race, from buying the house next door to you. That would be anti liberty, and anti free market.

No

Why do you geNOcidal anti-Whites keep using the word, “Freedom”?
It is not “freedom” when it is FORCED. It is geNOcide.

“Anti-racists” force EVERY & ONLY White countries
to accept MASS foreign immigration.

Just like our economy, that "free market",
to which you keep referring,
has not been FREE for a long time.

If we are not allowed to say no, that is NOT freedom.
Oh, wait, it's freedom for everyone, except Whites who object...anti-White.

That is FORCING and it’s White geNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article 2: ...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, ...Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

You seem to equate neutrality

toward race to mean being "anti-white". But I am only "forcing" you to accept freedom of travel in the same way I am "forcing" Obama not to bomb Syria. "Forcing liberty" on someone is an oxymoron.

No one is allowed, morally, to enforce arbitrary anti liberty laws on anyone else, for any reason. If that is "forcing" something on you, you've got a strange notion of what "force" means.

"...that 'free market', to which you keep referring, has not been FREE for a long time."

Then why don't you join with we libertarians in trying to make it free? We can start by eliminating all restrictions on consensual commercial activities, such as restrictions on whom companies can hire or fire.

Honestly, why the racial obsession? If a white person chooses to rent a dwelling to or hire a brown person, how does that adversely affect you?

You missed the point completely

.

No, I didn't.

I addressed the point directly.
You're trying to jump in front of the conversation and lead it in a particular direction by turning your attacker's method on him.
But, you are just changing the subject.

Your method plays into the anti-White game. When a person calls you the R-word, whether actually or by implication, and makes the hypocritical claim that they are anti-racist, the issues ARE in fact racial. In your method, you simply do it first, but use of the R-word is a form of negative conditioning and demoralization used against White people.

I guess I'm the only person who heard Obama say, ‘White Part of Me is Racist’
or Joy Behar, and others, say, 'Oppressed Minorities' Can't Be Racist.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

I find this hilarious

I think you're just trolling and being ironic on purpose.

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:)

I want a future for little White rabbits.
I'm just not really sure what to think about all of the antiWhite-ism on this forum

I haven't detected any anti-whitism

here. I have seen people here of all races abhorring the anti-immigrant xenophobia being put forth. How can I be anti-white? I am white. Just because people aren't obsessed with race the way you are, that doesn't mean they hate any race, it indicates quite the opposite.

I'm not talking about "immigration".

I'm talking about MASS immigration and FORCED assimilation.

This universalism, "multiculturalism", is not being universally applied.

Africa will still be full of Africans
Asia will still be full of Asians

Only White children, in countries founded by White people,
will suffer from this insanity. It is White geNOcide.
Except they don’t call it GENOCIDE when it’s done to White children.
They call it “diversity” and "freedom".

Anti-racist is a code for anti-White

How is the government "forcing" immigration and

assimilation? Allowing people to move here is called LIBERTY, and is supposedly what this web site is all about.

oops!

"I guess I'm the only person who heard Obama say, ‘White Part of Me is Racist’"

Yes because he never said it- you have been duped by the Daily Rash a satire site that has recently also reported:

Joe Biden Knocks Toddler Unconscious During White House Easter Egg Hunt
Obama Furious After Vladimir Putin Unfriends Him on Facebook
Sequester Cuts Force Obama to Kick Mother-in-Law Out of White House

http://www.thedailyrash.com/

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point taken

I've never seen the site, Daily Rash, and only included it because
it appeared alongside the other article about Joy Behar.
It seemed believable.
Thanks for the correction.

A Google search for "Can White people be racist?" and "Can minorities be racist?" illustrates my point.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

So I'm both?

"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White."

So if I'm anti-"white" then I'm a racist. So if I'm anti-racist then I'm a racist? If I'm not-A then I'm A? You collectivists are as silly (and as potentially dangerous) as theists.

"Code word is a code word for shiboleth."

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