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Video: Sen. Paul's heated exchange with Sec. Kerry on Syria Strikes




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Debbie's picture

War is Peace.

John Kerry.

Debbie

Cyril's picture

Predator Drones are Fun.

ObaMARX.


http://youtu.be/52JVljZW_cw

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Am I the only one who thought that Rand looked weak here?

I thought Rand started off great, but once Kerry got going and worked up over Rand's initial comments, all Rand could do was sit back and take sips of water. I thought it was a weak finish for Rand :-(

When Kerry Talked About Governments Killing Their Own

...I would have said "Waco."

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SteveMT's picture

I would have also said 9/11.

Until proven otherwise, they did.

how did rand lose again ?

agreed , kerry has ZERO credibility!
thier evidence will end up being falsified

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

rand needs to do better

stop trying to sound funny with his "i was so close to being proud of the prez.." they have limited time. need to ask direct questions. question the intelligence. question the language of the bill, which allows for a lot more than just a bomb here or there. and stop sucking up to israel.

I'm not anti-war

I'm sorry but I'm not anti-war for the sake of being anti-war. Violence, in the defense, is very well justified. Our nation was founded on it - young men died fighting the red coat soldiers of King George. But our US military should only be used in defense of US citizens and US territory.

For example, when jihadists are attacking our consulate/embassy as in Benghazi I wouldn't of had a problem with using our military - such as the US Marines - to secure and protect. Their mission would be for defense of US citizens and property, and not to build bridges, hand our food or force democracy. Secure it and leave.

In the case of Syria, as the US president, I would simply come out and tell the worlds that the United States remains neutral on this issue, we urge restraint and peace, but it is none of our business and certainly not worth US treasure or one American life. I would give a warning two all parties. If any Americans are attacked, if our embassy/consulate is attacked, the US government will defend their citizens and property. Additionally, any attack on Americans will be considered an attack by both the Syrian government and rebel forces equally.

After 10 years in the Marine Corps, to include three (3) tours in Iraq I must agree with two time recipient of the Medal of Honor Major General Smedley Butler USMC - "War is a Racket, we should only go to war to protect our homes or the Bill of Rights."

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

I wonder what the General

I wonder what the General meant when he said he didn't want to comment. Kerry looked pretty embarrassed. Do you think he agreed with Rand or Kerry? Could anyone make out what Kerry said after the General made his comment?

Obviously, Kerry asked the

Obviously, Kerry asked the general for support. General Dempsey didn't give Kerry the solicited support. Regardless, any sane person knows that an unilateral attack on another nation is an act of war ... period.

What a big show

absolute joke this whole process.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Rand seemed compromising and failed to mention the big truths.

This should be repeated:

Rand says about Obama: "I was proud that he is my president.... ... and I was about to stand on my feet and give him a standing ovation... ... I wanna be proud of the president, and then when I'm about there..."

"If we vote you down, which is unlikely by the way..."

Then Rand fails to make any strong points on any thing. He seem like a first year libertarian making unfocused points on the periphery of the real issues.

Rand could have pointed out that the US would be fighting on the side of Al Qaida. That the 'rebels' are CIA funded islamist terrorists, that the USA has no business destabilizing the middle east or any country for that matter, that there is no threat to the USA, that even with Congressional authorization this would be an immoral war, and most importantly, that there are about 100,000 people dead because of the US's support of the 'rebels' (al qaida), and that many more innocent people will die if the US decides to bomb them.

He conceded all of those points when he failed to mention them. He didn't even mention that this might have been a false flag designed to get us to fight in Al Qaida's side.

Kerry sensed Rand's willingness to compromise and talked down to him. Rand is failing to fill his father shoes and to bring education and truth to the debates.

"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2

C'mon Rand ...

Article I, Section 8 states in part:

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Dam Rand, know your Constitution. When a Secretary of State pontificates about the Constitution that is when you ram what the document actually says up the tail pipe. Excuse me Mr. Secretary of Defense the power delegated to Congress is just not declaring war. The power to authorize actions short of war also resides with Congress using Letters of Marque and Reprisal. Where does Article II grant executive power "[T]o declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water"?

Reprisal: An act taken by a nation, short of war, to gain redress for an action taken against that nation. For example, seizing a ship in retaliation for a seized ship.

Letter of Marque: A letter of marque was issued by a nation to a privateer or mercenary to act on the behalf of that nation for the purpose of retaliating against another nation for some wrong, such as a border incursion or seizure.

Furthermore ... the power "[T]o define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations" is also delegated to Congress so where does a Secretary of State or President find any authority to exercise any power defining what constitutes an offense against the Law of Nations or the punishment?

Shit Rand ... you should have clubbed Mr. Secretary upside the dam head using a couple clauses of the Constitutional not just regurgitating Madison's thoughts about declaring war which is one part of one phrase in Article I, Section 8.

No war, but...

Not only does Congress have the Constitutional authority to declare war by the United States, but also Congress is the only power that can give authority to declare war in the case of a United Nations vote.
I think the issue of the United Nations approval is being overlooked.
grant

Rand comes off as spineless

Kerry made Rand look like a schoolkid - especially with the trump card 'if you had bothered to come to the classified briefing you would know the truth'.

If he had attended the briefing, even if he could not argue the points, he could at least say 'I was not convinced'. He could then also argue that we had no business waging an agressive war no matter what happened in Syria.

What is gained by misquoting?

What is gained by misquoting?

Kerry's Makeup

Does this guy wear makeup 24/7?

I urge John Kerry go to the classified briefing and learn this;

Israel will not be less safe. Israel owns 300+ nukes!

HAHA!

Senator Paul's Video Copy should be featured.

Sen. Paul Questions Sec. Kerry at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing- September 3, 2013

Using the military to police

Using the military to police the world is not mandated by the US Constitution. Why do American taxpayers always have to pay for this?

Kerry expected the Constitutional approach from Rand

But when he got to the scenarios, did anyone else see Kerry twitching like a ragdoll?

My stars, Rand BURIED him. It wasn't even close.

An absolute masterwork of questioning.

Today Syria hearings

Sorry folks, our man came off looking like an uninformed youngster against Kerry. He actually looked ill, physically, and his intellectual performance was poor. It was a terrible day for Paul.He better do a lot more study and research if he is to play in the big game. Today he came off total loser.

packeryman

SteveMT's picture

But all Kerry wants is authority for another limited war.

Our so-called limited wars:
Korea
Vietnam
Kosovo
Persian Gulf/Desert Storm
Afghanistan
Iraq
Libya
Yeomen
Pakistan
Bosnia
Somalia

Next on the hit list of limited wars:
Syria
Iran

John Kerry

said nothig but the normal old crap we hear every day on mainstream news. And you are saying Rand was a total loser? The only loser I saw was Kerry.

What does "reduce their

What does "reduce their capacity" MEAN?

Please tell me that is not all the information they have given, in regards to what they actually plan to do.

You are'nt declaring war, ok, your actions will judge the value of that statement.........dont be surprised if another lie becomes the thing that breaks the camels back

I thought Rand absolutely torched Kerry

Throughout, Kerry looked and sounded like a bumbling fool, while Rand make cogent and consistent points.

The contrast was startling.

HUGE win.

hearings

I watched the whole hearing, waiting to the end for Paul's response, it was a terrible performance. He came off politically at a very serious hearing, his Constitutional B.S. was way off base(it appeared he was a radical)maybe that is what some of the far right want,that will not win national elections.On the national scene he lost many points, because the public does not think, like the Paul supporters.On the other hand Marco Rubio came off as a real professional, as a future Republican on the national scene.

packeryman

You, like Kerry, probably think...

...Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor wasn't an act of war because Japan "didn't put boots on the ground."

Don't you have a sandbox over at DailyKos to play in?

SteveMT's picture

You are spouting B.S., but the Constitution is not.

Neither is Rand. 90% of Americans are with Rand of this issue.