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*WARNING* Stay Away From Syria!

"He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears"

~ Proverbs 26:17 ~

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On the other hand....

He that passeth by, and meddleth with wife not belonging to him, is unlike one that taketh a cock by its head.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson


Thank You!Holbrook Isaiah chapter 17?Let me know what you think please.

Verse 1 The burden of Damascus.Behold,Damascus is taken away from being a city,and it shall be a ruinous heap.(NKJ)

Reading the chapter now.

I hope you find some answers - I sure didn't

Anyone have input on: "The Burden of Damascus"

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

We shall see

I'm not sure GB but it very well may be speaking about the very time we are in.
We shall see.
Only God Himself knows exactly what is going to happen.
One thing is certain, and that is the fact that time is running out!
Just look around you.....the world is gone insane!
I weep for the world, and yet I rejoice in what is to soon come!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

What strife belongs to us?

This quote could be used by those who witness a man being killed and simply pass by.

No way am I condoning the idea of war. Just pointing out that this might not be the most pertinent quote.

Not so

The Bible speaks volumes about helping others in need when it is in the power of your hand to do so.

God knows what He is talking about, if only we would listen!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

ecorob's picture

Remember the story about the guy who was drowning?

This post is for go213mph. I absolutely LOVE almost ALL of everything you write here. But, on this topic, as you write here, I disagree.

Think about the guy who was drowning...He prayed for a boat to be saved. A life preserver floated by, he let it go on by. A piece of driftwood floated by, he let it go. So, he drowned. He asked the Lord, "Why didn't you save me?"

The Lord said, and I'm paraphrasing, "You dumbass! I sent you a life preserver and a piece of driftwood! What was your freaking problem?"

We, the people need to be smart.

Its ok for those that seek to find the "peace that passes all understanding" in Christ. To billions, that inner peace is all consuming and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that and we, those that ridicule this "attitude", need to get over it and worry about what gives us peace.

As for Rick Sanitorum, he can go suck a big brown goose's ass for all I care. I don't equate someone who tries to live a life of virtue with that pos and you shouldn't either.

Someone who is as strikingly opposed to "religion" as you seem to be have much bigger fish to fry in your own lives than throwing stones at people who seek to find peace by whatever means they can.

We should always remember, people EVERYDAY are in varying stages of "waking up". Maybe this is the first time they've heard of 18' skeletons as described in the bible. Remember your first day of waking up to something? Give people a break, will ya'?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Okay Ecorob...I hear what you're saying. And will tone down my

anti-religous comments. Not sure why religious posts seem to get under my skin so much lately...but they do. I ignore a lot things that people do and say everyday. I'll make a better effort to just ignore religious posts/comments here on the DP.


don't tone it down too much

I rather enjoy your rants :)

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Up-vote ^

Just up-voted you go213mph :-)


" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

NOTHING fails like prayer!

A wise person once said that two hands engaged in labor can accomplish more than a million hands clasped in prayer.

People who are afflicted with religious delusions often believe that they can ask their invisible friend for a favor, and if he is not in a bad mood he just might grant their wish, if he feels like it, and they asked the right way, and they asked the correct invisible friend – the one they imagine exists, not the one those bad people imagine.

Try telling a teenager to pray when their iPod is broken. Try telling a double amputee to pray so that an invisible friend will make her limbs grow back. It is not going to happen. And the reason that it is not going to happen is that Nothing Fails Like Prayer.

"A wise person once said..."

The quote in the OP is not a prayer.

In fact, it is simply a quote from a wise person, much like "two hands engaged in labor can accomplish more than a million hands clasped in prayer". Even many non-believers and non-religious people look to the Book of PROVERBS simply for enjoying the value of reading age-old wisdom. I enjoy the Book of Proverbs much as I enjoy reading ancient Buddhist wisdom. Here's one of my all time favorite ancient Buddhist wisdom quotes... "Do not seek the truth, merely cease to cherish opinion." The quote in the OP is not different from your quote or mine in essence. It is not a prayer. Perhaps your anti-religious bias has clouded your perspective as much as you've imagined holbrook's religious bias has clouded his/hers.

How rude and disrespectful

towards people of faith.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul


This is exactly why religion of any kind has no place on this web site. Not everyone shares the same religion nor sect of religion, nor (if you break it down to Christianity alone) shares the same biblical translation. These types of posts and comments are divisive by nature and off-topic to any political/liberty discourse and are in clear violation of the rules of this site:

1. No profane, disrespectful or divisive language

Considering there is NO official religion of the Liberty movement (or this web site), ANY and ALL religious posts or comments are by definition divisive language and in CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE RULES OF THIS SITE. If you want to practice your religion, I'll continue to defend your right to do so, but we don't all share the same views on deities or religion or doctrine. Pretending that we do (or should) only alienates people from the cause of liberty: the whole reason we're all here.

I'm sure you can understand by now, these types of conversations do not bring us together, they only live to separate us—regardless of intent.


So you'd rather alienate all non-Christians and water down the movement? OK. If we're going to be an exclusionary club, let's settle this one once and for all. Which one are we backing here? Since we're only allowing Christians on this site now. What kind of Christian are you?

Methodist? Lutheran? Presbyterian? Baptist? Catholic? Mennonite? Mormon?


Pick one. One of them has to be right? Which one of these are we going to give the OFFICIAL seal of approval as THE Christian denomination of the liberty movement and the Daily Paul?

I don't want to piss off God and get the wrong one, so if we're going to take the "my way or the highway" attitude toward religion on this site, I really want us to be clear and narrow this down. But, if we're doing this, let's pick one and stick with it, because they're not all the same (and I don't want to wear magic underwear unless I really, really have to). And, I want to make sure everyone is on the same page when we look at the same translation of our bibles and quote scripture here instead of talking about politics.

What's that, oh I'm sorry did you say anything besides Baptist? Because by your logic, since Ron Paul is a currently a Baptist, we should all be Baptists now or we're not truly supporters in this liberty movement. For those of you that just converted, congratulations! Your first order of business is denounce the Westboro Baptist Church because we all really know they're not actually Baptists, right? I mean, they're just Baptists by name only, right? Seriously, they couldn't be that evil and still get into heaven, right?


I appreciate you wanting to do good by God, but you're alienating people in the process. Some of us happen to believe religion isn't the solution to our problems, but rather the cause.

Thought we shouldn't go into Syria? How 'bout now?


Look at all those muslims just waiting to be taught the power of Jesus Christ by looking down the barrel of a gun. We sure do seem to be spending a lot of time over there lately... killing people. All for that little bit of blue in the midst of all that green. In Christ's name we prey.

It sounds

Like you have had some bad experiences with Christians in the past and you don't care for them.

That's ok. Isn't a free society supposed to consist of people freely being who they are? Why do Christians have to shut their Bibles and not speak at all about their faith on this site? That doesn't seem right.

I think we should all treat each other with respect regardless. Even if I disagree I should still try do my best to be peaceful and respectful.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Gilligan's AlieNation

"So you'd rather alienate all non-Christians..."

Rather than what?

"all non-Christians"? How about just speaking for yourself. I've had no intent to alienate non-Christians. I also get no impression whatsoever that holbrook intended to alienate any non-Christians. I've run across many Christians on this sight. I've run across many non-Christians on this sight. You have no basis to assume that all non-Christians are alienated here or find the OP's quote divisive, offensive, or disrespectful to non-Christians in any way, other than yourself and possibly one or two more that have posted on this page.

I'm personally not religious, and I am unable to choose from your list as I am not affiliated in any way with anything that might be called a denomination of Christianity or any other religion. In fact, I am so extremely non-religious that I see people like you as being rather religious in your "non-religiousness". I am at a loss to comprehend your "Pick one. One of them has to be right?". Right about what? I just don't get it.

You seem to have put much effort into feeling offended or alienated or whatever about a simple mundane yet clever quote that just so happens to be written in someone's religious book. Poke around, it won't take you long to find a similar quote in a "non-religious" book of wise quotes.

Being non-religious myself has never excluded me from being loving and tolerant of others, and I personally find it just as easy for me to love and tolerate religious people as I do non-religious. Two of my best friends seem quite different, but I love and tolerate both equally. One is an avid Christian who knows his bible cover to cover and attends an evangelical charismatic church. The other is an avid Trekkie who knows fluent Klingon and attends Star Trek meet-ups. I have never asked nor would I ever dream of asking my evangelical charismatic friend to not quote the Bible in my presence. I actually have fun with his quotes for it often stimulates heated discussion, especially when I make it real and ask him how it effects his behavior in real life. My Trekkie friend? Well, I think I watched every episode as a kid without even trying [Gilligan's Island too :D], and he helps me remember the good ones.

I also have Buddhist friends. I have never been or felt alienated by them either. I easily discuss with them one of my favorite authors who happens to be Buddist, Thich Nhat Hanh. I also discuss his writings with my non-religious friends and my Christian friends. I smile when I tell my Christian friends that Thich Nhat was once nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by Martin Luther King, Junior.

The only time I've felt alienated is when I've chosen to feel that way.

Misery loves company. -[a wise quote from somewhere, I forget if it's written in someone's "bible" or if it was perhaps the theme of some Star Trek episode]

All I see in your comments is an active attempt to alienate Christians from the Liberty Movement, or censor them, or infringe their liberty to express themselves freely.

Of course you are free to ask Ron Paul to stop quoting his bible, lest he diminish the Liberty Movement.

What is with this site lately

I feel like Rick Santorum and his stooges have taken over this site. I don't have a problem with people worshipping how they see fit, or resorting to prayer when they've exhausted all other options. But can we please leave religious fanaticism and bible quotes at home?


Quoting the Bible is equated with "religious fanaticism" now?

Is the Proverb true? then cool you can understand the sentiment.

If you don't like it move along. You know the founders of this country quoted and read the Bible often, you might not have liked them.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

That's not what I said.

I never said "Quoting the Bible is equated with 'religious fanaticism'..."

I asked, "can we please leave religious fanaticism [AND] bible quotes at home?" Emphasis on the word "and."

The religious fanaticism was in reference to the other posts I've been seeing here, like the one about GIANTS from biblical prophecy (which were clearly comical photos from a photoshop contest site, Worth1000), and another about calling politicians "satanists" with no evidence (obviously) and in reality merely for effect of garnering views on this site.

As far as me moving along, I'm not going anywhere. Sorry to disappoint you.

As far as the founding fathers and the bible are concerned, I can't seem to find anything about that in the Constitution. Maybe you can help us all out.

There is plenty

that the founding fathers have said about the Bible and it influenced them a lot. How about to start "endowed by their Creator"? "created equal" which presupposed a Creator.

Ok you gave some good examples of some kooky things out there. So just ignore them and they usually get down voted or go go away.

They are no threat to you. Freedom is a good thing.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

John Adams says "Here - oh ye intolerant one":

and provides you with his thoughts concerning the Constitution and religion (his being Christianity).....

11 October, 1798
   I have received from Major-General Hull and Brigadier-General Walker your unanimous address from Lexington, animated with a martial spirit, and expressed with a military dignity becoming your character and the memorable plains on which it was adopted.
   While our country remains untainted with the principles and manners which are now producing desolation in so many parts of the world; while she continues sincere, and incapable of insidious and impious policy, we shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned us by Providence. But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another, and towards foreign nations, which assumes the language of justice and moderation while it is practising iniquity and extravagance, and displays in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candor, frankness, and sincerity, while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world; because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
   An address from the officers commanding two thousand eight hundred men, consisting of such substantial citizens as are able and willing at their own expense completely to arm and clothe themselves in handsome uniforms, does honor to that division of the militia which has done so much honor to its country.
   Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations. That which you have taken and so solemnly repeated on that venerable spot, is an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government.
John Adams, Charles Francis Adams. The works of John Adams, second president of the United States: with a life of the author, notes and illustrations, Volume 9. Little, Brown and Company. 1854.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

i just pictured someone

i just pictured someone grabbing a dogs ears.. totally confused me lol

Hope this helps

Think about it.... someone walking along maybe sees a dog digging a hole in someone else's yard, or maybe fighting with a smaller dog, he thinks he can solve any problem, especially problems that do not belong to him, so he foolishly grabs the dog by the ears and lifts it off the ground to make it stop, and now the dog is barking viciously and snapping trying to get at the one holding it.

He's now thinking...."Gulp, what did I get myself into?"

What's going to happen when he lets go of the dog?

All the while the dog is hurting and getting angrier by the second!

How long can he hold the dog.... realizing that now he is going to get bit REAL BAD?

Should have minded his own business and left the dog alone.

This truth can be applied to many situations and should be a wise warning for us all!

Maybe not the best explanation but hope this helps.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~


without ceasing.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

and in all things

give thanks