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Pope Francis Writes Putin:

In a letter Thursday to the G-20 host, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Francis lamented that "one-sided interests" had prevailed in Syria, preventing a diplomatic end to the conflict and allowing the continued "senseless massacre" of innocents.

"To the leaders present, to each and every one, I make a heartfelt appeal for them to help find ways to overcome the conflicting positions and to lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution," Francis wrote as the G-20 meeting got under way in St. Petersburg.

Francis has ratcheted up his call for peace in Syria amid threatened U.S.-led military strikes following an Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack near Damascus.

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On Wednesday, the head of Francis' Jesuit order, the Rev. Adolfo Nicolas, told a Catholic news agency that military action by the U.S. and France would be an "abuse of power."

"I cannot understand who gave the United States or France the right to act against a country in a way that will certainly increase the suffering of the citizens of that country, who, by the way, have already suffered beyond measure," he was quoted as saying in the interview, the text of which was released by a Vatican-affiliated spokesman.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/pope-francis-syria_...



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S.J.

What does it mean?

You are the source of credit, because you can produce more, more that is here, more that was not here, because you produce more, you are not a tree, a tree produces more oxygen, you produce more too.

You produce more, since you are born, than that which was here before you were born.

A source of POWER.

You area source of POWER.

Power flowing into the circuit.

You.

How did you become a source of DEBT?

Why is there a target on your back?

Words are meaningful?

Spell inculpatory?

Try it.

Follow the inculpatory evidence back to the source of it, and what is found behind the curtain?

Joe

Where to start?

How about here:

http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_jesuits.html

"Current Leader Adolfo Nicolás"

Anyone who claims that there is NOT 1 person and one group having power, control, dominance, and authority over all other people, and all other groups, anyone claiming that such a single power does not exist, they may want to check their wallets.

World Reserve Currency does not fall from God to Earth, or grow on trees.

England was once the base of World Reserve Currency POWER, and it was then powered by Drug Trade/Slave Trade/Money Fraud "Inflation"/and Legal Extortion or "Taxes," then there was World War I and II, and then there was The Dollar Hegemony backed by Drug Trade/(Sex including child sex) Slave Trade/Legal Monopoly Money Fraud "Inflation"/Legal Extortion "Taxes"/ and OIL/Natural Gas/Fuel POWER.

Hitler was a stooge, an employee, hired by the Dollar Hegemony, and so was Stalin. They stopped obeying orders, and they went for the oil Power, to gain POWER.

What is the meaning of The Society of Jesus, or Jesuit?

http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_nazi_ss.html

What does S.J. mean?

Who benefits when a power such as Germany is consumed in a battle against a power such as Russia?

Please consider these three links:

1.
http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

That is the documented financing or control of Hitler's Nazi Germany from Wall Street or from The World Reserve Currency POWER before England and The Bank of London stepped down as the World Reserve Currency POWER.

If you have no idea as to the connection of OIL in this Theater of Human Destructiveness, then know, please know, that Germany had no oil, but they had coal, and Standard Oil of New Jersey (Wall Street based Corporation) sold Germany the "rights" to produce oil, with The Formula Patented, from coal. Germany had no military without that formula. The entire German Air force ran on synthetic oil during World War II.

2.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

That is the same hand, the same source of power, used to destabilize,finance, control, build up, militarize, Russia. Russia, before that process of destabilization/control was done was a peaceful, competitively the most peaceful, country, place on earth. There is a rich history of Russian peaceful character to be known, if anyone cares to know.

3.
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_FD...

That is the making of America into a Legal Crime Cabal, and you can call it socialism, you can call it communism, you can call it anything you want, but why not call it crime made legal?

Who is pulling the strings this time? What do they want when all the bombs currently made are used in this next World War, all the destruction is over, and they, those profiteers of war, pick up the pieces?

What does the most powerful group want when they have their little World War III done and over with, and they get what they want?

World Reserve Currency Power.

The Power to enforce ONE fraud money, ONE extortion money, to be used by everyone or else.

The Power to write a check on a whim whereby the single check written by the single producer of that one money now has the power to purchase equal to the entire sum of power commanded by everyone else using that same money combined.

If that last paragraph goes over your head, then you measure how well the fraud works, even after you demand payment for your contributions to wealth in Federal Reserve Fraud Notes (check your wallet).

U.S.A. is a Corporation that has been raided. The wealth taken out of the Corporation has been spent on building up all sides in a coming World War, and once the last bomb is dropped, once the last scream marks the death of the last casualty (mostly innocent "non-combatants" or "collateral damage") a new World Reserve Currency Power will emerge from the ashes, and by all evidence I can find, the new "World Leader" will be based in Asia.

Just as all defensive focus was once aimed efficiently at the last World Reserve Currency Power being a Cabal of Criminals operating from The Bank of England, where World War II managed to shift the focus of defensive power from the most powerful band of criminals on Earth, so will this current pogrom work.

Out will be the cries of just how bad those guys are in Wall Street, or The World Bank, or the International Monetary FUND, all denominated in dollars (as far as the victims care to know), out with the old boss, and in will be the new boss, just like The Bank of England supposedly stepped down to make room for The Dollar Hegemony, after World War II, so will be the changing of the guard after World War III.

They, the most powerful criminals on the planet, convince their victims that they, those criminals, are the source of CREDIT.

They are the source of DEBT.

They convince their victims that they are the source of CREDIT.

They are the source of DEBT.

The fraud made legal is meticulously documented in fact.

You work, you produce, you end the day with more, not less, and you demand payment for your production, and you demand Federal Reserve Fraud Notes.

You can call me any name you can think of, while you jerk your knees.

Be my guest.

What is the significance of Motu Proprio?

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/motu_proprio/...

http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_holy_see....

Please consider the possibility of those worst human beings currently infecting human life on Earth having their own house cleaning.

If Jesuit trained "leaders" are drawing lines in the sand, then those in power will listen, or be damned?

Joe

this headline is not impacting enough - doesn't relay happenings

he sent the letter to putin who is hosting the G20 summit. In it, he sends a message to the leaders of the world

“To the leaders present, to each and every one, I make a heartfelt appeal for them to help find ways to overcome the conflicting positions and to lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution,” Francis wrote.

This is not a message to Putin. It's a message to the G20 leaders.

No matter

what headline I use, someone on this site criticizes it. Obviously, if you read the article, you get the full message.

sure

a lot of anti-catholic fixated people here. I could care less about the past, right now the Pope is for peace and that is good.

Perhaps, then again, perhaps not.

Considering that I spent several years as part of the Roman Catholic Church and still consider myself one partaking in the Christian faith from a universal/catholic perspective, I wouldn't call myself anti-catholic, though I am very much anti-Papist and anti-Jesuit. In keeping with that, while I agree with the general spirit of what Francis I has stated here, his methodology and motives are subject to some serious questions.

What is the head of the Roman Catholic Church doing sending letters to the de facto political head of the Eastern Orthodox faith when America's congress and Executive branch are crawling with self-proclaimed members of the Roman Catholic Church? If he actually wanted to prevent American involvement and push for peace, he should be sending warnings of potential excommunication to Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John Boehner, and any other Jesuit trained politicians holding high office if they would presume to violate the teachings of Augustine, Aquinas, and countless other prominent theologians on the topic of Just War Theory.

One could make the argument that America's Romanists are completely out of the Pope's influence, which begs the question of what purpose does Christ have with a vicar (he never called for there to be one ANYWHERE in the gospels, nor is this confirmed by ANY of the apostles or the early church fathers) if he can't even exercise authority over his congregation and their respective bishops/deacons.

The fact that the Jesuits have wormed their way into the highest levels of America's government and have repeatedly been on the wrong side of the war/peace issue with very few exceptions warrants some much needed skepticism, especially considering that the order of the Jesuits was founded primarily to destroy Protestantism, Old Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and any other church which will not bend the knee to Rome.

When I see the Pope rescind the Council of Trent and recognize the legitimacy of each diocese electing their own bishops while returning to the original role of "First Among Equals" that the Roman Bishop held in the early church, I will withhold any trust for him and his minions. But he may earn some of my respect if he clamps down on these pugnacious warmongers that he has here in the U.S. who claim to be subject to him.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

I was raised

Roman Catholic, no longer practicing, but am drawn to the mystic tradition (Theresa of Avila, John of the Cross, etc.). I agree, he should come right out and tell Pelosi, etc they are excommunicated if they violate the doctrine of just war and also abortion. Probably never do it, but I take what crumbs I can get....100,000 people at the Vatican today for the prayers for peace vigil. I like that.

Most anti-catholics outfoxed by Fox News, IMO. shrugs.

Funny how it was called pedophilia, until all the perverts showed up at TSA.

Suddenly they are protecting our security.

Peace on Earth! Goodwill to men. I agree, the man's message carries no force but urges consideration.

Free includes debt-free!

who, by the way, have already suffered beyond measure,"

who, by the way, have already suffered beyond measure,"

To my unusual and crazy way of thinking.. and this is because, this civil war is Assad's response to protesting. So many people in Syrai are protesting, he begins shooting at people.

Plenty here blame the US and Israel.. ok, because the original protesters who became rebels when Assad starting murdering them, liked having a computer and freedom from oppression, liberty from tyranny is, pretty much a daily discussion here. While some may fancy a life without a computer, most would still prefer for it to be a choice, not the president to turn off the computer when he feels the youtubes would incriminate him and his troops.

While I don't believe launching weapons is the answer, following Israel's lead is the answer..

There are people who need to be free and productive, and those who need to be enslaved (rooted), grounded. Seems as long as the Church goes along to get along.. which is what must have upset those who appreciate Church as a form of freedom, others might call enslavement, to think the Church would not back them in freedom, but rather hold it's ground.

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No one here to [your words] "blame the US and Israel"

they are not one and the same. Each are their own sovereign nation.

And then, this: "...following Isreal's lead is the answer."

Fervent supporters of Rand Paul, as you claim to be, would wonder about that statement.

WORSE YET, this: "There are people who need to be free and productive, and those who need to be enslaved (rooted), grounded."

We're NOT in Rome, we're in America.

It's done all the time

Israel is a sovreign state, the US has sold out to the UN with treaties like NAFTA, Kyoto, arms is coming up..

Israel is thriving and the US is modeling its self after Detroit.

What I'm saying with that statement, is that it's good the US protest what is happening in Syria by Assad.. and I think saber rattling is good too.. it would be good to make a protest at the UN about what is happening, and threaten to get out of the UN, end this UN Agenda nightmare. If Israel is attacked, and they call for help, then we should help them. Many here who hate Israel, blame zionists (which includes the zionists people don't know much about.. the ones who established Israel outside the UN agenda and is thriving.. thriving population is good. Civil war is bad.

I don't want a US civil war like Syria or simular.. I would prefer to use the constitution as Insrael uses theirs, not for a UN agenda, but for the people, for land, for water, for privacy, property, freedom, self security.. the things that are talked about on DP is happening in Israel.. but we're fed tone of anti-Israel stuff, and the people promoting Israel are warmongers.. it's as if they do this to turn people away from Israel.. like how parks hide the history and landmarks from the public they want to protect.. It's like the real Israel is hidden, under layers of ugly crap..

Rand has said he stands with Israel and so do I.

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May I start a thread in your name

"I get it...The Granger is more anti-UN than she is pro-Israel"

If I posted the text of what you just typed would that be correct and would I have your blessing?

Granger, you have slapped me silly more than a few times and it has not come easily to me but I have never and will never close the door on you.

Thank you for the consideration

I am not a fan of the UN Agenda. Israel proves with out the UN Agenda a state can thrive, even among enemies.. they are thriving.. and to me.. that's impressive.. seems the YouTube and propeganda have many blaming and turning against Israel, zionists, and a lot of blame, I don't see knowing the legal case for Israel, and what Israel does (produce as if it's Galt's Gulch) while the rest of the world gos to war.. I just saw this vid.. I think it's represents a lot of people, and I agree with some of it's perspective, but I do not agree with the end.. though I know many who believe Israel will be wiped out by Iran and then who knows where... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEwI0qdnB-8

"senseless massacre"

Please read his as a Reply to "Dear Pope Francis" below, (just forgot to click the Reply key.)

" ... the obscene cost of Millions of wasted lives ... " is not a business! It's a preventable outcome through sincere negotiation, and respect for human life. That prevention fades by disparaging speaking the truth, regardless of who's talking. It could be that the desperate state of fiat central banking, supposedly the topic of this G20, can devolve into something positive for Syria. Aware leaders know positive outcomes for the continuation of central banking Business as usual are not to be found. We'll see what the financial wizards of the world have to say, soon enough 'bout that.

Dear Pope Francis,

I know your letter is well intentioned, but may I please point out to you, that since it's inception, the Catholic Church has interfered in the politics of the Globe, at the obscene cost of Millions of wasted lives.
17 hundred years of history, and you have learned nothing?
Keep your nose out of other peoples business.

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Even an atheist would consider your comment ignorant.

1700 years of history? Umm....no. Catholicism started when Jesus was born, not 1700 years ago.

"It's" is a contraction for "it is" - you should have typed "its" as it is a possesive pronoun.

Yes, knowledge of proper grammar is required of us Catholic school educated Pope worshiping [fill in the blankers] that you so apparently hate.

As such, Cathoics are trained to spot ignorance quickly.

Could you please tell me the name of the

ruling pope when Jesus was born?
I'm sorry that in all my years of research I've missed that one.
Until you informed me, I had absolutely no idea that Jesus was born a catholic, and that the catholic church was already well established at the time of his birth.
People who aren't indoctrinated in Catholicism learn a different history. A history that tells them that no-one has any idea of the exact date of Christ's birth, and that established religion didn't get off the ground until 3 or 4 hundred years after his death.
For the record, I don't hate anyone, just their actions, and the Catholic church at it's highest level has not got a good track record when it comes to interfering in politics.
As such, non Catholics have learned to spot indoctrinated, mindless parroting quickly.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Cat...

Darned Catholics

Thank you for the opportunity to nitpick your grammar and spelling! Although I'm a fallen Catholic who only finished eighth grade, I'm pretty sure your Subject line should read:
"Even an atheist would consider your comment to be ignorant"

You misspelled the words "possessive" and quite impressively, "Catholic", and since you misspelled those two words, I suspect you misspelled "blanks" although "blankers" might just be a cute-ism. (One half of a "Hail Mary" OK with you?)

In the first line you leave no space after your thinking dots which does not allow the word "no" to be the second word in the sentence.

In the third sentence, there should be a comma after the word "educated" and another immediately after the second bracket following "blankers".

My recollection was the Catholic Church began sometime in the second century and after checking online, I confirmed it.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to hack your brave but obnoxious posting. Otherwise, I'd be too afraid of appearing hypocritical or petty.

OK. I'm ready. You'll be able to spot my ignorance quickly. ;)

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Apparently "we" as in the US govt have learned nothing either

I'm not defending the Catholic church, but anyone who can perhaps influence peace instead of war gets a thumbs up from me!

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

So

There are no catholics in Syria? There are no catholics in the american or french armed forces that might be sent to die? Sorry you are so hostile to this religious leader that you can't agree with him that we should opt for peace here. This issue affects some of his flock whether you like it or not.
Oh, the likes of Stalin and Mao wasted lots of lives - don't hear you calling out Putin or the Chinese who are sending ships to the area today...

Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle. Mary, Our Mother, protect us under your mantle.

Go through your papal history

Popes have always
"spoken" for peace, but plotted for war.
Catholicism was the first bid for Globalisation. They nearly got it.
I favor no men of war, that is why I am at this site.
Putin has every right to send ships to the area, Russia's Syrian Naval Base is at stake in a US led war on Syria.
The US is protecting her interests and Russia is protecting her assets.

Please explain Jill

"The US is protecting her interests and Russia is protecting her assets."

The US has Zero interests in Syria!

Please correct me if I am wrong.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Painful as it is,

When you listen to Global politicians drumming for war, they only ever talk about "protecting their interests".
http://news.yahoo.com/-obama-puts-twin-syria-sales-pitches-i...

That's it?

Like I said... The US has NO vital interest in Syria!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~