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The Obama administration is NOT going to bomb Syria !

I have been trying to put myself in President Obama's shoes for the past week, trying to figure out the upside to this whole thing for him, his legacy, and his party which is the order of priority for any politician.

A president can't be bribed with campaign dollars like a congressman so there is no wealth factor. It really comes down to the power side of things, but that is only important for the party not for Obama personally. So it really comes down to legacy and party. Obama, personally does not have anything to gain by bombing Syria.

Like Jimmy Carter, Obama's legacy resume will be greatly enhanced by his Nobel Peace Prize and that would be negated by bombing Syria.

He basically came out of Lybia unscathed mainly due to the public not really knowing what the hell was going on and there was no time to build a massive public opposition to his actions.

I think he was using this as a blueprint and he thought that he would float the idea, there would be no visible opposition and then he would go ahead.

Obviously this has not happened.

Now let's look at what would happen if Obama backs off.

Obama will be humbled. He will be more popular than any other former president when he hits the speaking circuit. Even more popular than Clinton.

His legacey as a Nobel Peace Prize recipient will give him gravitas for decades to come.

The party will remain the party of peace.

Even Rand Paul and Ron Paul would reluctantly praise him for his actions.

He might even win a few votes for his party from us. Those that prioritize foreign policy as a top priority.

We will know in about a week, but I bet he backs down.

Having said that ...

I also think he will go covert and simply place a few well placed drones in the area. That way he can do what he wants without all the publicity.

God Bless.

update 9/14/2013:

Obama is not going to bomb Syria. An agreement has been reached.

So much for everyone's zionist conspiracy theory.

I hope this is a wake up call to all those that think Jews run our government.

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Well, the way I see it, is

Well, the way I see it, is if, let us say, the situation was reversed. So Congress was decently in favor of the war, the American people were decently in favor of the war, and then Obama came out with a strong "NO WAY JOSE"...then, I would certainly give him a nod, and I'd expect those like Rand and Ron to do the same.

But in this case, I don't see how Obama's legacy is improved. He'd be the president who "almost" took us to war.

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History does not record almosts.

Unless you are throwing horse shoes.

God Bless.


Obama was simply saying "If I AM going down - I am taking a whole lot of you with me UNLESS you start a sell job to the American people and at least make it so that I am NOT the only one supporting this."

He still fully believes that he has the right to do this. But like the nerd who gets talked into throwing all his books on the floor at 10:00 in math class, under the understanding that EVERYBODY is going to do it, and then nobody else does - Obama wants at least rhetoric telling us about how important this is and how necessary it is and a good national sales job telling us that ALL the SMART people believe in it - before he is actually willing to do it.

Obama was HIRED to be President before he even won a single election. He was handpicked by the powers that be, to put a new face on the same old Israeli chaos for the Middle East policy. Its his DESTINY to do this war, whether he wants to do it, whether its popular, or not.

Obama HAS no independent voice. The powers-that-be were surprised he even took it to Congress. If they had expected THAT they would have ramped up the PR campaign much earlier.

Obama was meant to be a scapegoat for this Israeli planned move and that's exactly what he will be.

Well said. All the recent

Well said. All the recent presidents were just talented salesmen to the powers behind.

Will you rethink your conviction ...

If I prove to be right or will you simply continue to be in denial?

We shall see in about a week.

I had a feeling your comment was going to be about the JEWs.

It all comes back to the Jews for you doesn't it?

God Bless.

If its not about...

the Jewish on some level then why does the United States keep little Israel all nice and cozy, even while America crashes and burns?

"What light is to the eyes - what air is to the lungs - what love is to the heart, liberty is to the soul of man."
-Robert Green Ingersoll

It's just a coincidence!

Nothing is ever connected to anything, and anyone who suggests otherwise is clearly a Jew hater...even though Zionists and actual Jews have very little in common.

Now, I shall end my post with a passive-aggressive
"God Bless"

~Rhino aka Granger-lite

A signature used to be here!

Did you think it was coincidence that half of our politicians

are Jewish?

I come from Wisconsin - which is home to maybe 40 Jewish people (okay I am exaggerating), yet until recently both my Senators and my Congressman were all Jewish (and there I am not exaggerating).

Did you think it was coincidence that the NEW hate figure after the fall of Communism, was the traditional enemy of Israel, the Muslim?

Did you not notice that in Darfur 800,000 people were hacked to death with machetes yet nobody lifted a figure to intervene. But here, a country that Israel HAS attacked on its own and that is part of a plan set forth by Israel to create less threatening chaos in the Middle East, suddenly 1,300 die (a disputed figure by the way - UN says closer to 400) and its a global emergency?

Sometimes it IS the Jews. And this is one of those cases.

Not all Jews are Zionists, and neither

are all Christians. This is not about Jews, this is about being an Israel firster, which has nothing to do with being Jewish.

At least Jetguy is being honest.

You are still in a stage of denial.

Don't worry, there are 5 stages and most people don't stop on denial for too long.

God Bless.

So far on this site I have seen tirades aimed at

Jews, Hispanics, and black people, as if all Jews are Zionists, all Hispanics are freeloaders, and all black people are violent. I thought this was a liberty-oriented site, not one dedicated to ethnic and racial hatred. But I am beginning to wonder.

The DP

has always allowed, and even nurtured, the stormfront crowd.

I have been here since late 2007 and I have been banned three times for pointing this out.

The inside jobbers are tolerable, it has evolved into a harmless distraction.

The KKKers are another story. They hurt the reputation of the DP and of Mr. Nystrom.

I don't understand why it is tolerated.

God Bless.

explain yourself

How is realizing the difference between Judaism and Zionism turn into being in denial? Denial over what, exactly?

I bet you're the same type of person who goes around calling anti-Zionist Jews "self-hating", despite having zero knowledge about either subject.

"God Bless" ^___^

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It's not about the distinction.

It's about the obsession.

If everything is a zionist plot.

Or if AIPAC is always behind the curtain.

Or if you are a bit too obsessed with Israel ...

One should do a little soul searching.

And begin to admit that they have a little Jew hate.

A little bigotry.

A bit of anti-semitism.

9/11 ... the Israelis did it.

Iraq, Syria, Lybia ... AIPAC is pulling the strings to get us into those wars.

Zionism is the root of all evil in our current political system.

Get it?

God Bless.

At least you are being honest.

I wish you well on your journey.

God Bless.

If a group of Jews does

If a group of Jews does something wrong, are we supposed to keep quiet to avoid being called "anti-Semitic"? Sorry, but life does not work that way. I call them as I see em. No group is inherently better than another. I would say the same if a group of Christians had hijacked our govt.

Here we go.

I am glad we are not trying to be evasive today.

No code words today.

No beating around the bush.

I like it this way.

That way we all know where everybody stands.

God Bless.

I love it when I get called

I love it when I get called "anti-semitic" for my beliefs. You should see the look on people's faces when I tell them my very obviously Jewish name. It disgusts me when Jews play the race card just like when blacks or any other "special" group does it. It's a crutch to avoid any actual argument and go right to the fallacy of emotional appeal.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

It's ironic ...

Because collectivism is used solely as an emotional argument.

Why would people's faces be contorted when they find out you have a jewish name?

Because of your hate speech and crooked nose jokes out in public?

God Bless.

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you didn't

just imply that comment,did you?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I see your whole post as "Oh No. This is so terrible it can't

be true. So it CAN'T be true. Hollywood always pushes happy endings."

Well this aint Hollywood. And sometimes bad people really do bad things. For real.

Well ... when this one does have a happy ending ...

Is it because the Jews told him to back off?

I don't think this is over.

They just need a 'better reason', and I'll bet they are working on it.

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Yes, they are working on a better narrrative

Because what they really want is to go for Iran, of course.

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

Well that is a different matter all together.

And the jury is still out on that.

But if I were a betting man ...

Obama is going to do an about face on foreign policy.

Not because it is the right thing to do.

But because, politically, it is best for his party.

It will be a political rope a dope and the Republican Party is going to suffer greatly because of it.

I don't think Obama is as smart as Clinton was politically, but he is capable of learning from the master.


"I don't think Obama is as smart as Clinton was politically, but he is capable of learning from the master."

Do you REALLY not see that NO policy has changed in the US since BUSH 1?

I don't think you are very smart at all. Puppets are puppets and there are many levels of puppets.

Nope ...

This chapter is over.

It is covert drone activity or nothing.

Syria will be relegated to the back burner.

God Bless

I agree

It was sabor rattling which is credited to Obama because it caused 1000+ Syrian Troops quit and an ambassador in Turkey decfected..