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Pray to the Mother of Jesus Christ!

Pray
That is the strongest weapon in your hands

Pray
Kneel down even if you are an Agnostic

Pray
Even if you are a militant Atheist

Pray
For Love will remove all your pains

As a poet
I promise you this




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ConstitutionHugger's picture

I'm Catholic homeschooling my child

Today's craft project involved St. Michael. So I decided to look up a nice video regarding this archangel. This video seems to fit so well with the evil in the world that has been revealed to me lately. I'm not showing this to my 4 year old, I'll keep looking for something for her, but for you, I give you a prayer to St. Michael.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLg2YauMuiY

Beautiful and So Hopeful

I have seen this video several times and each time I see it I get tears in my eyes. Yes, St. Michael, defend us in battle. We know who the SHE is who will crush the deceiver's head. Pray it will be soon. And pray that Pope Francis will finally, in union with all the bishops of the world, consecrate Russia to Our Lady's Immaculate Heart.

Babs

The Pope - a Catholic - has

The Pope - a Catholic - has been speaking firmly against the intent to start a was against Syrian.
Noam Chomsky - an Atheist - has been speaking firmly against the intent to start a was against Syrian.

Where are the protestant leaders? Quiet - crickets.

Who is the real Christian?

You would think...

...there would be a greater outcry by Protestants (of which I am one) -- and people of all faiths -- against what's happening to the Christians in Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc., and the wider repercussions of engaging in war unjustly.

Probably the only one that comes to mind at the moment is Chuck Baldwin.

This poll suggests that 62% of evangelical pastors are against war in Syria:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/62-of-evangelical-pastors-...

But it's a shame, if true, that they're not more vocal about the moral aspects of the situation. I think a lot of pastors have boxed themselves in where they're afraid to speak on such matters, because, supposedly, it's not their role. I'd say that's a cop-out.

Go'in ta Hail, y'all

There are some matters of faith on this topic that merit enlightened, respectful debate and dissent, but most of this slap stick is just divisive sass. You know the drill.

"Dissent is entrenched in the Church in the U.S.
For most American Catholics over 50, it is an accepted fact that dissent from the magisterium of the Church is widespread, tolerated, and, in some quarters, even welcomed. "

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/fifty-years-later-vatican...

SEE, for example:

http://www.saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/general/roman-cat...

vs.

http://nativecatholic.blogspot.com/2011/04/blessed-mary-moth...

BUT, in the spirit of reconciliation and harmony,

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3193376

When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree
There will be an answer, let it be
For though they may be parted, there is still a chance that they will see
There will be an answer, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
There will be an answer, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

And when the night is cloudy there is still a light that shines on me
Shine until tomorrow, let it be
I wake up to the sound of music, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be
There will be an answer, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

Prayer is the best thing we can do

I do agree with the OP that prayer is the best thing we can do. And it should be done all the time, no matter whatever we are doing.

However, the problem here is who do we pray to, and what do we pray about? Are we praying to the One true God, Christ Jesus? And what are we praying for? Are we just praying for blessings and safety and prosperity in the physicals?

If you read the Bible, you can find many prayers. I think we should start with the prayer of repentance and asking for forgiveness. We can always use God's mercy and grace and His forgiveness!

I have to say this

I am not against Catholics and I am not saying all Catholics are not true Christians. I know there are true Christians in the Catholic Church throughout history. But it is NOT BIBLICAL to pray to anyone besides the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit! Praying to Mary, the mother of Jesus is idolatry! Mary, a sinner just like the rest of us, have no authority whatsoever to hear our prayer or to answer our prayer.
Prayers to Mary and prayers to the saints were corruptions that was brought into the Church during the time of Constantin. It was a huge mistake and a compromise. So if you are a true Christian seeking God's will, please go read the Bible! I pray that all you who truly seeks God will have your eyes opened and see the truth. Pray to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but not Mary nor any other person.

Praying to Mary...

Is totally un-Biblical. Quite pagan, actually.

If by "praying" you mean adoring

then you are correct. I don't think anyone will argue with you there.

Pray to whom you like

Just dont tell me who to pray to or what to pray. You have no special connection and it just makes you look like a big fat liar.

sovereign

What you and I see as an Imperative in English grammar.

Is, most likely a bad translation. Go fish!

Free includes debt-free!

Perhaps

In this era we must becarful to not speak as if we are speaking for others it implys the borg effect.

For my inner peace ill chalk it up to grammar as I am guilty and perhaps the worst speller in the world.

sovereign

All that really matters here

All that really matters here is this; legalizeliberty has created another loser post, this one with a net -35 votes, and falling.

Beyond that nothing here really matters. His poetry (that's what he calls it, not me) sucks, his ideals suck.

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People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

This was a very nice post.

If you don't like it, ignore it. legalize wasn't imposing it on you, was he?

Thank you for calling it a

Thank you for calling it a post and not a poem....

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People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

The diciples asked Christ how to pray....

1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3 Give us day by day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

He never said pray to my earthly mother. Nope, never said that. Pray to the father in the name of Christ. Christ is our mediator, without Him we can not stand before God the Father, we are not worthy, see, I Cor. 15:57, 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

The night is far spent, the day is at hand.
And those who have not heard shall understand.

Funny

you give us Jesus' instructions on how to pray then add in your own instruction by telling us to do it in Jesus' name, when in fact he never stated that in his instruction to the disciples.

Really not much different than the initial post.

GoodSamaritan's picture

John 14:13-14

Jesus said to His disciples, "Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it."

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

Which to believe

The first, which is more logical and corroborated by another gospel or the latter which was written much later and takes Judaism into the world of paganism.

I'll stick with the common sense Monotheistic approach and pray exactly like Jesus had taught and practiced himself.

GoodSamaritan's picture

It's not a choice of which to believe

as if one gospel is inspired of God and the other isn't. Neither is there any contradiction since Jesus revealed to His disciples in Chapter 14 that He and the Father are One. He is God the Father in human form. To pray in the name of Jesus is to desire His will be done, that is, the Father's will be done.

The Lord's Prayer is a format for prayer presented in two versions across Matthew and Luke. There is no indication that these are the only permissible prayers or prayer forms, and no indication that to pray either of these or any other prayers in the name of Jesus is praying to anyone other than God the Father.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

Jesus is NOT God the Father

Jesus is NOT God the Father in human form. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are three, separate, distinct Persons.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

GoodSamaritan's picture

Christians worship God

- not Gods.

When you say, "Jesus is NOT God the Father in human form", you are making Jesus a liar. He was crucified precisely because He claimed to be one with, and equal to, God the Father.

In John 8:58, Jesus referred to Himself as "I AM", another name for God.

"I and the Father are one." John 10:30

"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:8

And there are many more proofs in Scripture.

Just because God chose to represent Himself to us in the form of three distinct Persons does not negate the fact that He is one God.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

And at the end of every Hail Mary prayer....

... comes the close: in the NAME of the Father, THE SON, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

So, who says it's not in the name of the Son?

The Lord's Supper

smber2c gets it wrong on The Lord's Supper, too. If you want to understand what communion is all about, go here:

http://bobgeorge.net/radio/p2p/1995y/#

Scroll down to March 29 and jump ahead to about 31:45 and start listening at that point if you want to find out what Jesus meant by His body and blood, which includes a brief explanation of the New Covenant, too.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

Why do you dispute smber2c here?

Why not reply to his comment directly?

How are you so sure that Bob George gets it right?

Did you listen to it?

????

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

He is saying that the Last Supper is symbolic

But who cares what he says? His interpretation should hold no more weight for you than the Pope's. Right?

Simmer down now! We atheists are the enemy!:D

Ok look this makes me sad.

Statism is the religion of the Adversary.

I understand the protestant objection to Saint worship, I understand the Catholic defense of Saint worship.

I know some of you think this schism is very important.

But if you can accept atheists in the liberty movement, and we accept theists, surely the worship of Saints (or failure to do so) can't be as big a deal.

I don't like banning topics but if this is going to divide theists who otherwise are on the side of liberty.. I call for a ban.

Protestants, liberty folk who are Catholic are not the enemy. They may be misguided but you must see they are wll intentioned.

Catholics, liberty folk who dislike worship of Saints are well meaning also. You can see their point at least semantically.

Both you guys need to chill. If you need to hate, hate on me. Atheists are used to it:D

You make some very good

You make some very good points, but it is often easier to peacefully coexist with those who are apathetic to ones spiritual beliefs or who dismiss them entirely that ones who take what you believe is scared and smear it with names like "Whore of Babylon" and "Anti-Christ".

I try very hard to be kind and courteous in my comments, but I also defend my Church. You won't see me taking pot shots or slinging mud at others. I will tell them that a position is hypocritical or unresearched, but I'm not going to label anyone evil or stupid or satanic.

I can even see their point to a degree. They think Catholics created a new faith and pulled a billion humans into participation in on it.

My position is likely easier to hold even though it is the one being constantly attacked, because I look at them as focusing on a small fraction of the Truth God has revealed to the world. I may have to endure some name calling, but ultimately I can think they are still being Baptized and following the Bible, so they can be admitted to Heaven where presumably all truth will be revealed the they will then come to see that the Catholic Church was Christ's true church all along.

Anti-Catholics however, look to Catholics and think - they are heretics, apostates, idolaters. Upon death, Catholics will not have a chance at heaven but will instead burn for eternity. Thus is it requires poor etiquette who cares because people's souls are at stake.

My point it mainly in trying to correct those anti-Catholics when they mis-represent Catholic beliefs. I know 99% of them will never actually become Catholic, but I do think a good number of them could at least call Catholics brothers and sisters in Christ if they stopped spreading lies and misrepresenting Catholic teachings in every public forum.