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Karen Hudes - Schizophrenic

Something has not felt right ever since I saw one of her interviews where she was pressed on a few items,
and the answers that came were very telling.

I had made prior comments regards this and asking that she be vetted.
Sometimes, you just have to do things for yourself.


I would not say this of AJ, nor of David Icke.
Yet the more she speaks, the more it becomes apparent.

She is suffering from Schizophrenia

I don't mean to attack someone who I believe has a good heart, and actually means extremely well.

Never the less, it is important to be honest and speak truth as you see it.

Civil Action No. 10-1444 (JEB)

3rd Court Case.


They cannot understand what her claims actually are.

This is the same phenomena seen when interviewer's actually press her on her statements.
It simply turns out to be a feeling she has that is unfounded in fact.




III. Analysis

Because each of the four Defendants has separately moved for dismissal and set forth

different bases, the Court will address each in turn. Ultimately, despite three tries to articulate

her causes of action, Plaintiff is simply unable to do so. As a result, the Court will dismiss

certain claims with prejudice and others without.


B. Schreiber

Despite this being Plaintiff’s third attempt at pleading claims against Defendant

Schreiber, his role in the events underlying this lawsuit remains shrouded in mystery. All that

Plaintiff can muster against Schreiber is that he “is a hired gun who has defamed Plaintiff,

abused Plaintiff’s confidential medical records, inflicted emotional distress on Plaintiff and

damaged Plaintiff’s career in violation of HIPAA, Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank.”


Nor is this the type of circumstance where a typical pro se Plaintiff falls short of certain

technical pleading standards. Although Plaintiff brings this case pro se, she has stated in

previous pleadings filed in this case that she is a lawyer with a degree from Yale Law School,

Am. Compl., ¶ 12, and twenty years of experience in the Legal Department at the World Bank.

Sec. Am. Compl., ¶ 11. The Court therefore finds she is not entitled to the relaxed pleading

standards generally afforded pro se plaintiffs. See Ning Ye v. Holder, 644 F. Supp. 2d 112, 116

(D.D.C. 2009) (“plaintiff is a practicing attorney so there is no reason to afford him the latitude

ordinarily accorded to the typical pro se plaintiff”).

Although the Court could conceivably permit Plaintiff to amend her Complaint once

again to set out facts sufficient to support her various federal claims against Schreiber, the Court

declines to do so. She has already had three attempts, and it is readily apparent that if she had a

federal claim against him, she would have articulated it by now.


Under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 8(a)(2), a complaint must contain a “short and

plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief[.]” As set forth in

Section II, supra, “a complaint must contain sufficient factual matter, accepted as true, to ‘state a

claim to relief that is plausible on its face.’” Iqbal, 129 S. Ct. at 1949 (quoting Twombly, 550

U.S. at 570). Although “detailed factual allegations” are not necessary at this stage, Twombly,

550 U.S. at 555, Rule 8 “demands more than an unadorned, the-defendant-unlawfully-harmedme accusation.”


In short, Schizophrenia is someone who 'at times' sees things they believe are true, that only appear in their minds. Not in reality.

Delusion, hallucination.

If you've ever known a Schizophrenic, they speak 95% of the time in reality. Then they will say things which are patently false, yet you can see that they truly have seen and believe these things.

These event's appeared only in their minds.

They mix reality with unreality.

I believe from what I have seen and now vetted for myself that she is in fact suffering from Schizophrenia.

Without doubt she is well meaning. You can see that.
Is it without doubt that there is a lot of truth to what she is saying.

The banking system, the political system. The all out corruption.
(Even the judicial system. Yes!)

All true and verifiable. With facts.

It's where she says things that are unfounded, that she cannot specify, you can see where she has crossed the boundaries of reality.

I have seen this for myself in my personal life. It is without doubt convincing, up until you ask,
Who, what, when, where, why.
The evidence.

Then the truth is revealed.

To me, this shows a sizable hole in the alternate media that needs to be plugged. They seem not to press on the facts, nor seemingly vet the facts. This needs to be corrected.

They need to get back to basics.
The five W's as they are known.

Who, what, when, where, why.

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I recall a saying from the 1960's:

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that no one is plotting against you."

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Wrong and possibly right

I read that stuff some time ago. I tried to track down her medical records. There is no evidence of schizophrenia but there is evidence of psychological treatment. My interpretation of the facts if her case (which I tend to believe) are that her employers health insurance provider at the World Bank (Aetna) requested and received a copy of her medical records from her psychiatrist or psychologist ( I didn't inestigate which). Whatever she was undergoing therapy for was sufficiently serious that in combination with her whistle blowing led to her firing. However she has no evidence of an illegal transfer of medical records and her place of work and Aetna deny the facts so she has no case. I would think for her to be fired secondary to medical records indicates a psychosis. But she seems like a recovering or controlled schizophrenic under alot of stress to me. So what began as legitimate whistle blowing is deteriorating into paranoid rambling but that's all speculation.


Great job doing the leg work!

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

She publishes the fact of her therapy on her website.

And her lawsuit against the world bank is really about unauthorized exposure of medical records and the filings are public record. While this posting says its an unjustified lawsuit, she actually did have her privacy violated (not legally apparently) and was screwed over by her therapist and employers insurance company.

To be fair, just because she has had psychological issues doesnt mean she is not a good lawyer and person. However she is not a member of the Federal Bar Association or the Maryland Bar Association (meaning she cannot practice law in Federal Courts or in Maryland, where her 'law office' is located http://www.msba.org/directory/index.cfm)
her counter-factuals (besides homo capensis) are documented:


It was always said that Ron Paul was a kook too ...turns out he's been right about everything ...

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Gandhi

Let FREEDOM ring

Duly noted, MarkDran...

"(which I tend to believe)"
"(I didn't investigate which)."

I have no idea, like with the poster's thread, what you mean. At least try and admit, you aren't credentialed, just naysayers. Fine.


Who the hell are you? Care to disclose?

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Bull Shit

But it's always nice to see a troll expose themselves.

Check out her FB page, and reply. Popping up here with this BS is noticed.

Don't use Facebook

Did she address why she was suing? Or you just disagree with my speculation about why she was seeing a therapist? I was just speculating. As for 'controlled' schizophrenic I meant a schizophrenic whose psychosis is controlled by medication, enabling her to function ( as opposed to uncontrolled). Or if you want documentation can do.

"Did she address why she was suing?"

To ask that question, you identify yourself and prove the fact that you are a troll or shill or something, with no other intent than to confuse with suedo (ANY?) credentials. Again.

To ask that question, in other words, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Because you've never listened to any of her numerous interviews, nor read, nor gone to her website, (which one must do to understand the chronology of events, and comprehend the accomplishments Hudes with her other World Bank and Minister whistleblowers' have achieved).

You are grasping at straws!!!!!!

The suit by Karen Hudes was to shed light on the fact that the
World Bank was not in compliance with its own protocol nor the standard auditing accounting procedures...

Do I really need to remind you that that's what she signed on for? And that's exactly what Hudes was hired to do and required to do?

Given her job description...keep the World Bank in compliance with the Rule of Law... doing so has become a burden, and people like you, make it more so: because your statements have zero credibility/ accountability.

Who are you?

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

OK probably not schizophrenic

She was suing Aetna and the World Bank for firing her. I believe her version of events. Aetna released her private medical records to the Bank's Doctor without her consent (Dr. Demure). She was upset by this and she and Dr. Demure became fast enemies. Dr. Demure then tried to destroy her career by contacting her treating physicians and telling the world bank what was in her medical records.
Now The SPECULATION is what was in her medical records. In her response to Aetna (http://www.kahudes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/appeal47p1...) on line 2, page 2 she states the person is a "psychologist licensed and practicing in Maryland." A footnote goes on to give the name and address of the said psychotherapist. The psychotherapist is most well known for couples and emotional counseling.

The message

I have read all the comments and I have noticed some people have misread my post.

Some believe I am denouncing the conspiracies she talks about.
Some think I am slandering her character.
Some think Catherine Austin Fitts is similar to her.

Please read the post again and get a more true understanding of it's meaning.

Conspiracies exist, and the one's she speaks of are real.

Noting that someone is homosexual is not a slur. Neither is noting someone is suffering from a mental illness.

Though they can be used in slurs, I have not done so.
Nor would I.

I reiterate, I think she is a good person. Her heart is in the right place.

People do exist that exhibit symptoms of mental illness and have mental illness.

Catherine Austin Fitts does not exhibit any symptoms of mental illness. I do like her a lot. She is highly intelligent.

Karen Huges does exhibit symptoms of mental illness (Schizophrenia).
I still like her as a person. She does speak of real conspiracies that we all can agree exist. However, please note, she speaks of a reality (at times) that does not exist and this can clearly be seen in her interviews.

Where and how ?

For example, when she truly believes that 300,000 un troups are going to appear on the front steps of Washington DC. Whilst not impossible in a universal sense, is impossible and not real in the reality sense.

They're not here, they're not coming.

Whenever she is asked How and Why, she doesn't have any real answers.

The same thing can be seen with the court case.
What is her claim ? She has not stipulated it clearly.
She essentially has no claim based on fact.

Judicial coverups do exist. However they tend to attack a persons claims of which she has non to attack.

The whole purpose of my post was to say hey, something is very wrong with this person. And here is what is wrong.

To be clear, I will say it again.
Who, what, when, where, why.



She is very short on these.

The whole entire point of Journalism is to derive the facts.
Let us do so.

Just downvoted your post.

But I'm angry now for another reason so no worries.

Pandas is bad.

Not as you do

It's OK. I will not down vote your messages. I will not do as you do.
In fact, do you see that +1 vote you received. That was I.
Yes I have enough love even for you my brother.

Your down vote is a reflection of your inability to ask real questions.
And shows a real bias towards her without the ability to question what others point out.

We are all entitled to disagree. It would make more sense to at least ask questions as to the disagreement.

Do you not see where I state she is showing signs of a disconnected reality ? You have not noticed this in her interviews ?

Others have seen it also, clearly we all see something.
What is that something ?

There is one thing I have learned from this post.
People lack the ability to be neutral in their decision making.
To disconnect their feelings and look at a topic objectively.

I can now see why liberty is taking so long to move forward.
It is mired down in a social noise of belief and personal angst.

That is not a slur on you. I have no doubt you are a good person.
It took me years to come to terms with vaccines, 911, and all the complexes that have monopolized society (military, pharma, agra, etc)

Perhaps one day you will look with neutral eyes and see what we are pointing out.

God bless.

To do so Sir, requires you to be held by the same standards.

I probably found out about Catherine Austin Fitts long before you did, and she also was demonized and called a kook.

Thank you for searching for the truth.

skramp erk derp!

I will destroy you g'danmp!

3:31 update


Pandas is bad.

My good friend, my best friend actually, is schizophrenic.

His name is Tommy, and yes he is a real live person.

He learned about the NWO a couple years ago, and started learning about the globalist agenda in earnest a small while ago.

In the last 3-5 months he has been educating his landlord with links to Alex Jones' videos and other educational media.

His landlord was skeptical at first of course but is now teaching his young family about the NWO agenda.

This all started with my friend who is schizophrenic.

So mock the mentally ill all you want - they can still teach others.

Pandas is bad.

There is a way out for Tommy.

Better than 50-50 chance with proper science based nutrition.

Free includes debt-free!

i think

you are right...I think that a lot of conspiracy theorist suffer from this condition. not full blown schizophrenia, but paranoia, which is a symptom of schizophrenia. not saying every conspiracy theorist is mentally ill.


Your labels don't matter when it comes to America.

But your history of standing up for the truth does.


You Sir wear it.

Just like every Viet Nam vet is wearing their effort for America they were deluded into.

Brother, you Own Your ideas. This is America.

(and your ip adress is noted, as is mine)

kind of a racist answer

first of all: I am a conspiracy theorist myself....hell i am even into UFOS and aliens.
second: i am a psychotherapist specialized in hypnotherapy. so when i talk about schizophrenia i mean the clinical definition. paranoia is something different. people are scared and they have their reasons. fear is the main reason for paranoia. it stops your rational thoughts. people jump to conclusions to protect themselves. well, what is the media and government doing? they scare people. they keep everybody in a constant state of fear. fear makes you believe things much faster, the information you receive while you are in a state of fear will enter your subconscious and can turn into a believe.... and you can't reason with a believe.
I am not saying that there no are conspiracies...I BELIEVE in plenty of them....I even get attacked for being a conspiracy nut on german forums...

Thanks for participating

And thank you for keeping the thread UP.

I dont pay any attention to

I dont pay any attention to her. She has a lot of guess's but her track record of being right on all her suspicions is basically non existent. Shes basically Gerald Celente with boobs

Lol, the expression on Greg Hunter's face is priceless-

as he interviews Catherine Austin Fitts. When I first started listening to Fitts, years ago, I felt the same, much as I did when I first heard Hudes. Greg has interviewed Fitts many times and she still never ceases to extract a face of non-comprehension from him. Same in his interview with Hudes.

These two women have so much in common, careers abruptly stolen from them, only to be repaired thru the courts, as well as becoming whistleblowers shunned by mainstream media. But I've never once heard anyone charge Fitts with a mental condition, even tho, like Hudes, she laughs in the face of those who seek to do her harm!! Hmmm.

At the 36:50 mark, Fitts cracks herself up. Hilarious! "If I'm so smart, why can't I figure out whose running things and why they're behaving the way they do!?????"

In another video, Fitts laughingly says, something to the effect that, "If you think you know the name of one of the little green men behind the curtain, you are looking at a foot-soldier." Just like in the Switzerland Institute's study which Hudes constantly refers, there's a cabal of interlocking directors running thousands of companies [and gov'ts.]... we know the names of the companies, but not the names of the interlocking directors. I've begun to notice how, Geo-politically, Fitts and Hudes are on the same page.

Fitts also talks about the Federal budget...the overt one and the covert [off the books]one. The covert one runs to the tune of $27 Trillion dollars. Pretty kooky stuff. No? Pretty much the exact same disclosure by Hudes on the World Bank that got her fired.

When I hear Fitts talk I also hear Hudes validated. But that's just me.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Catherine is truly and American Hero

By the way, I just checked the Karen H. facebook page and Hunter's interview with her has been reinstated by youtube.

It also appears they are setting up another interview. ;)

From: karenhudes@hotmail.com
To: greghunter1@att.net
Subject: RE: USAWatchdog.com interview with you http://usawatchdog.com/time-to-tell-these-crooks-theyre-fire...
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:40:09 -0400

Dear Greg,

Did you know I just found your email in my junk mail folder? This is good news. Let me know when you want a follow up interview. There are lots of interesting things going on, especially this: http://giftoftruth.wordpress.com/tag/philippines/


From: greghunter1@att.net
To: Karenhudes@hotmail.com
Subject: USAWatchdog.com interview with you
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:34:20 -0400

Your interview is back up on the site and YouTube!!! Weeeeeeeee!!!! Apparently it was some sort of glitch. I appealed the take-down and they put it back up. It took a few days, but it is back. Please let you folks know. I tried to call but the line was busy.

I'm growing speedingly to love Greg Hunter-

looking forward to his follow-up interview with Hudes, the former interview being one of my favorites!

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

He does a good job, but it's obvious he is having a tough time

shaking off his 'corporate' conditioning. Don't misunderstand that to mean he doesn't demand to know the truth, it's just I don't think he realized how far away from it he really was. LOL

BTW, I listened to the Fitts update again this afternoon, and it's amazing how both her and Hudes are closing in on the same problem from completely different directions.

I've thought for a while Hudes and Fitts were singing the

same tune! Just different angles. Ha.

I guess I have Hunter to thank for making that connection.

His Fitts interviews are the best. Maybe he senses the connection, too, between Fitts and Hudes? They do have similar experiences and personalities.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Perhaps John, and maybe I have you to thank

for solidifying it. It really hit me after watching (actually listening) to the Fitts interview you reposted here.

The cool thing is there are people IN the corrupt system standing up for the truth.

All searching the same goal.

And there are idiots that are trying to squelch it.

Here daily, on Daily Paul. (and it's all on record)

Great vid, base.

I commented a bit more on it below.

Honestly, it's a little suffocating, for me, to go down the rabbit hole as far as Fitts and Hudes are. But I know it's for the best. But it does seem most people here on DP don't want to go there and post like this one is their answer. I don't know which is more frustrating. Man!

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina