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Bloodthirsty, Frothing-at-the-Mouth Religious Fanatics

I speak of course of American “evangelical” Christians who the Republican Party is apparently whipping up into a frenzy to support a war in Syria. Referring to the Old Testament, these phony-baloney, Mercedes-driving preachers inform their flocks that Jesus Christ needs their human help in the form of committing mass murder and mayhem in Syria before he can return to earth. These are the same people who nearly booed Ron Paul off the stage at one of their conventions for reminding them that Jesus is known as The Prince of Peace.

Thomas Delorenzo
@ LRC
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/some-se...




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from thomas delorenzo the author of what has
turned out to be a controversial blog post re-posted
here at the DP by me. just so some of you better know who
you're dissing and bad mouthing. in my opinion a number of you should be ashamed
attacking a friend and colleague of dr. paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWojROnwsrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbFty9nZUac

R U in first grade

you act like some kid .. and nice MSM headline to get everyone in the mood .. dude u r a dickhead .. any preacher driving a Mercedes isn't a Christian they r a CINO

a name caller

asking if someone is in the first grade. too funny! BTW it's tom delorenzo's headline and i'm sure he'd get a kick out of someone labeling it like the MSM.

and with a name like cheesewhiz i need say no more.

They are Zionist "Christians"

Their only religion is War.

Anyone who boos the Golden Rule is NOT a true Christian.

Shameful

Don't lump all Christians together. I happen to identify myself as one and I am against any involvement in Syria and I am saddened that we got involved in Iraq.

The reason why is that Christians are now extinct in Iraq and the U.S. involvement over there has hurt the Christian church. This has happened in Egypt, Libya, and now Syria as well. This article is trash and its assuming a collectivist attitude towards Christians.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

thomas delorenzo

did not say all, and the article he was reacting to said "some" in their headline.

Excellent Post! It's true-In the South Carolina debates in 2012

...they booed Dr. Paul for suggesting we use the "Golden Rule" a little more as regards our foreign policy.

Is it any surprise that those same rats continue to elect one of the the top war-mongers of all, Lyndsey Graham?

These bastards wouldn't know what Christianity means if Christ Himself explained it to them.

They are some of the worst hyppocrites in the world.

MIGHT MAKES RIGHT in their eyes.

Of course, lots of them make their living in the military-industrial complex - which makes their blood-money philosophies even worse.

Their judgement will be harsh one day I believe.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I agree pawnstorm12

"These bastards wouldn't know what Christianity means if Christ Himself explained it to them."

Fact is, that Christ DID explain it to everyone in His Book!

There are a multitude who call themselves Christians, but are not of the flock of Christ!

"Ye shall know them by their fruits"

Peace

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Please explain

How Delorenzo, or others, know the religious identity of the specific individuals who booed Dr. Paul at the SC convention? I remember that incident well. However, was there some sort of ID, poll, or survey taken before or after the debate which identified those individuals as all being fanatical Christians? How does one know that the notorious "booers" were not atheists who simply did not like Dr. Paul bringing "religion, God, Jesus or the Bible" into a debate?

There ARE atheists (and other beliefs) in the Republican party - correct?

LOL

that's right bdunn it was a whole bunch of GOP atheists booing dr. paul.
rarely have i come across such a case of denial at the DP. you really take the cake.

What is your problem?

I asked an intelligent question - it deserves an intelligent answer.
If you are incapable of providing one, please refrain from rude personal attacks. Attacking people, groups or individuals, physically or verbally,is very negative - why would you do the very thing you are complaining of others doing? Isn't that defined as hypocritical?

Hate, hate and more hate, Gee I wonder what you will attract?

The only one you can change is yourself. "When you change the way you look at things, the thing you look at change", Wayne Deyer

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

I don't know any Christians that are bloodthirsty,

but I have met many "self proclaimed" and some even ordained Christians of various stripes who are self righteous, bloodthirsty, warmongering McCain Republicans. Many have posted on here that it doesn't occur in their particaular denomination.

This Saturday in southern Indiana, I attended a wedding of one of my friends where people of many "Christian" denominations attended. At the reception, a group of about ten to twelve people started talking about the necessity of war with Syria. I heard verbs used: bomb, nuke, gas, destroy. I heard nouns with adjectives: Arabs, towel heads, sand niggers, muslims, heathens.

While the Amish and the Menonites, in character, refused to participate in the discussion, the hateful group was represented by Baptist (General), Christian (Disciples of Christ), Pentecostal, Assembly of God and Catholic.

When they asked my opinion, I pointed out that one had a brother and the other had a son in the military and I would never put that burden on them. I said I believe the US should be a neutral, peaceful country like Switzerland and that this country has not fought a necessary war since WW2 (I know that was avoidable). When I said that we should be more like the Christ who would love thy neighbor and turn the other cheek, they looked at me like I was crazy and walked away.

So much for a Buddhist preaching the peaceful ways of the Christ to the "disciples of Christ".

Ugh.

Really? You guys sound like my parents arguing when I was a kid. Get over it already. It's called the

n-o-n-a-g-g-r-e-s-s-i-o-n p-r-i-n-c-i-p-l-e.

You stay out of my yard, and I'll stay out of yours.

If you come in my yard and step all over my flowers, I will escort you out of my yard, with force if necessary.

Isn't religion, or lack thereof, a private and extremely personal choice that is held at the core of a person's being?

What makes anyone care what anyone thinks about their religious beliefs, or lack thereof? What makes anyone think that anyone cares about their beliefs? What arrogance is required to attack a person's beliefs?

Beliefs are property. Isn't property one of those natural rights of all human beings? I learned all this stuff from you guys. What are you doing?

This thread is counter-productive. Big down vote.

Please explain to me

How Delorenzo knows the religious identity of the specific individuals who booed Dr. Paul at a debate convention? I remember that incident well. However, was there some sort of ID, poll, or survey taken before or after the debate which identified those individuals as all being fanatical Christians? How does one know that the notorious "booers" were not atheists who simply did not like Dr. Paul bringing "religion, God, Jesus or the Bible" into a debate?
There are atheists in the Republican party - right?

that's right

is was an enormous hall of GOP atheists booing dr. paul,

in loony land.

How many people fit this Azzhat

"these phony-baloney, Mercedes-driving preachers inform their flocks that Jesus Christ needs their human help in the form of committing mass murder and mayhem in Syria" ... I don't know one freakin mercedes driving preacher ..Your post is total BS, meant to divide .. That is what azzhats do .. thats what they did to Dr Paul .. make them fit a group "Christians" Warmongers .. "black" thugs .. Muslim "terrorists" ... Tactic of low grade Azzhats .. and you sir fit the bill

how do you explain

that ron paul and tom dilorenzo (the author of the post) are great friends and colleagues?

who is the azzhat now?

Oh the trap was set

Nice work azzhat i fell for it .. but my best friends uncle knows Ron Paul and he doesn't like tom dilorenzo (the author of the post) .. Ewwwwwwww!! Now u feel stupid don't you

oh sure

ron paul is known to bad mouth people of similar minds? pure hearsay "my best friend's uncle" is that your BFF? LOL. and then why would ron invite tom to testify at congress about the FED?
because he doesn't like him? does that really sound like ron paul?
why did ron cite tom's book when telling tim russert that the north should not have fought the civil war?
get a grip.

Well, let me say this.

As an evangelical Christian, I don't personally know a single other Christian who supports intervention in Syria.

Given that it seems like the 80/20 oppose/support ratio applies to Christians just as much as anyone else, it's INCREDIBLY unfair to single us out as a group because of a small, idiotic minority. It would be MUCH fairer if the frothing-at-the-mouth religious fanatics were simply described as Statists.

not quite

although this time around more are opposed
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2013/september/sy...

but this is mostly because of the killing of christians.

that wasn't the case in iraq, for instance.

personally i applaud anybody who is dead against the syria attack, and any other aggressive moves the admin has in mind for the region.

It has everything to do with the cause of liberty, Jacob.

As long as you believe the biggest lies {religion} ever told you will never be free. Read The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. You can find it in HTML for free. There is no excuse, especially in this day and age of information, for supposed liberty minded people to be so ignorant of their enslavement. I hope you grow out of it someday. Some quotes from the book:

"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life."

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit,."

"I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself,."

Be mentally faithful to yourself.

Christian libertarianism...

Christian libertarianism has a long, proud tradition going all the way back to the founding of the nation. Ron & Rand continue to carry that torch, as do many on these pages. There a athiests, agnostics, Muslims, Jews, & more amongst our ranks, and I'm happy to share these pages with you. Christianity seems to be the only belief system routinely attacked on these pages, and it dissapoints me. You have freedom of speech, but I would ask that you think before you post, and honestly ask yourself how your statement will advance the cause of liberty and unity. If it is divisive, hateful, hurtful, or bigoted, please reconsider posting. I can't tell you what to do, but I just think an environment of mutual respect would be helpful. Let's stop this cycle of collectivism. Peace.

Actually, STATISM...

..takes heavier fire, contra your contention that "Christianity seems to be the only belief system routinely attacked on these pages".

Though many of us could be characterized as "anti-Christian" insofar as we are morally offended by the corrupt notion of vicarious redemption, we tend to let mysticism go until it interposes itself into our socio-political discussions.

On these pages Christianity seems to be the apotheosis of Americans' senses of inflated entitlement and exaggerated injury. And as long as we are leaning on "seems", it also seems that American Christians most resemble the Irish, in that they "nivver let agreement get in the way of a good fi't".

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Not attacking Christians

I don't think anyone is attacking Christians, but are complaining that some interpret the bible in the most vicious way.. just like the radical Muslims interpret the Koran to mean kill, so do some Christians use the bible to justify what countries should do to each other in the middle east. Two wrongs, and all of that?

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thank you

for getting it.

Oh. Thought you were talking about the Cult of Obomba

Oh. Thought you were talking about the Cult of Barack Hussein Obomba over at MSNBC.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Really?

Umm... Being one of the Christians that this guy is referring to, an Evangelical, Fundamentalist, all the dirty words he can think of, and being a Ron Paul supporter who goes to church regularly, I'm really confused as to where on Earth this guy is getting this idea. I'm in no frenzy to go to war, nor has anyone that I know of in the Christian community made ANY overtures toward me in regard to war. I haven't heard any pastor in my local church or any national level pastor make any statement even referencing Libya, or Syria or any of the middle east wars in the past decade of being a Christian. So Mr. Delorenzo, why don't you just go hate someone else and stop being a bigot.

the article mr. delorenzo was responding to

my fault for not listing it. i'm going to fix that now.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/some-se...