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As liberty becomes more popular, why is the Daily Paul becoming more fringe?

I'd ask you all to do some self reflection about what you have been posting here. Is it factual? or just theory? Does it help promote liberty? or distract from it? I ask this because as liberty gets more and more popular,the Daily Paul gets more and more fringe?

The common citizen is finding out the danger of big government simply by looking at their paycheck, the price of their groceries, and the abundance of war propaganda. They aren't turning to our side because you came up with a theory about the Rothschilds, or 9/11. They are turning to our side because the world around them isn't working and its easy to see how government intervention in every aspect of our lives is the culprit. Meanwhile, you guys are on the side lines discussing "crisis actors" and the illuminati. You are literally missing out on the revolution we've been striving for because you are busy with your own conspiracy revolution.

Again I ask you to reflect on what you've been posting, and more importantly what good, or lack there of it has been doing for this revolution. The people are ready for the ideas of free markets and smaller governments. They don't need unsupported theories about secret societies. They need knowledge about how capitalism works. I propose we give them that knowledge.

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because it would suck

because it would suck massively to be mainstream, you know like ZNN

Be Your Own Media!!!

Im sticking to my previous answer

Its fringe between elections.

That's easy to answer, Fringe is the new cool

Just ask the most interesting man: "I don't always visit political websites, but when I do, I read the Daily Paul"

ecorob's picture

Call it what you will...snakebreath.

Here is what it is.

Fear. Anger. Retribution.

Those are the three stages that Americans pass through on the road to end tyranny.

We will decide for ourselves which stage we are in. We don't need your revelations about some false narrative designed to soothe the public into believing a solution is at hand.

We, the people understand ALL of the problems. We have the solutions. Your misunderstanding is your problem.

Black ops and hidden, storm trooper police regimes are paramount in our struggle.

Leave the paycheck problems to the food stamp masses.

We are beyond that.

Slither away and back to the hole you crawled out of else we will continue to cut off the head of the snake you inhabit.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

At the cutting edge of Occam's razor.

Tight Rope / Leon Russell
One side's ice and on is fire.
It's not a place for the timid. Old assumption get scrutinized.

Free includes debt-free!

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But when he has something to promote

He comes right back here and wants to know how he can get it on the front page of the Daily Paul.


He's the man.

So? which are more powerful? Good Fairys or Bad?

Which are more powerful? Good fairies or bad fairies? They both work in a capitalist free market system where they both compete for the opportunity to take credit for our actions. So I wonder which one has the market edge over the other one?

I guess as long as we do not harm a running candidate by forcing a theory into their plank, It's all just theory and conjecture,right?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Oh, Shut Up

It's the only reason I've been hanging around here the past two years.

Oh man Snake you did it now

…....it’s not wise to rattle the cages of the Religious Conspiracy Zealots, these kooks make the Taliban look like Sunday school teachers.

if it looks like a sockpuppet, and talks like a sockpuppet...

it is a duck?

considering your low opinion of us... why do you still hang around here?

someone has to keep this place honest


All YOU do is talk smack.

all I talk about is technical stuff.

go ahead, expose me as a "fraud"


Put your shit out there puck

it won't be hard!

my bad, the R is missing....

it should be HVAC/R.

it would appear that you don't even know what those letters stand for.
and just what do YOU purport to be?

Why are you so embarrassed by free speech ?

And honest debate? Thats the real question.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Mr. Snake.

There isn't anything different being posted today. That wasn't being posted five yrs ago. The Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Rothschild's, New World Order, 9/11, End the Fed., voter fraud, jokes, and many other topics have been on here. There never has been a set discussion on one topic or idea. This is what makes the Daily Paul the best place to come to learn, be informed, post and contribute. It's not going to change. You can discuss what you want to. Others can discuss what they want to. If someone wants to be controlled about what they say. There are many other sites on the web that do just that.
The Daily Paul, (IS) one of the reasons the Liberty Moment is happening.

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

Today's "Fringe"...

Tomorrows "Mainstream"! ;-)


Yesterday's conspiracy "theory"... today's reality!

What would the Founders do?


A person who has been a member here for only a year is going to tell us all how this page has changed and become " fringe" ! Good one bro, go troll elsewhere, if freedom of speech is too much for you that is your own problem, not ours.


HELLO! RON PAUL IS CONSIDERED 'FRINGE'...as are all truth seekers and speakers. It is all us 'fringies' out here that are searching for the TRUTH...in the fringes of what so called society touts as the 'truth"...the norm...the norm which they accept as reality, is a matrix of lies. If you stay within the comfy confines of that matrix NOTHING changes and the truth cannot come forth.

Because of the COURAGE of the fringies to speak out and say..."Hey! something's not quite right here..." that 48% of the American public want an REAL investigation into 9-11...hummm, suddenly the fringe is no longer fringe.

How'd that happen?

Thank you Michael Nystrom for providing the DP... a bastion for fringies like me.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

The common person is waking

The common person is waking up because the "Fringe" are pushing them forward. As they catch up, it is our duty to push them deeper down the rabbit hole.

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the people are ready for the ideas of free markets...ok
then ask not what others can do for you,ask what you can do for others
in other words,if you see a need,then fill it,don't be asking others
to do it for you,nor ask others to change because you see them all as wrong
or are uncomfortable with the topics at hand.
have you,yourself debunked any theory that was posted on the DP?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Between elections only the hardcore fringe persists.

That my theory. Only the webmaster can prove it though.

Let me say this:

If I were to put together an investigative operation, I'd want people on the Daily Paul as part of my team. If by "fringe" you mean individuals who can look at a problem from various angles, give me the people here.

It's good to see someone else

It's good to see someone else finally picking up the same argument I have been trying to make to the people here for quite some time. I have pleaded with them, to no avail, to ask themselves why Dr. Paul also doesn't talk about 9/11 Truth, Birther Truth, Chemtrails, etc. and to please follow his lead.

As Niven's Law States, "there is no cause so right you won't find fools following it" and this is a prime example. With countless irrefutable argument you can make to support, promote, and advance the cause of liberty as Dr. Paul does every day, why would you pick a strategy that makes the average person roll their eyes, tune out, and laugh at us?

What these fools don't realize is that it doesn't matter if they are 100% right about everything. In fact, I think they probably are right about a lot of things, but it doesn't change the fact it's an idiotic strategy and once again I'll mention that's why Dr. Paul doesn't use that strategy.

People are paranoid about the gov for good reason, but that also means the liberty movement is going to attract some people who are so paranoid they are a hindrance and not a help. The disinformation agents know this so they work hard to work this most paranoid element into a foam at the mouth frenzy that leaves the rest of us to clean up their mess.

Of course in their paranoid minds, it's people like us who are the disinformation agents. By their twisted logic, I guess Ron Paul is also an NSA plant following AIPAC orders to steer people away from 9/11 Truth. So we end up with a mixture of the dumb, the selfish, and the shills creating yet another obstacle for our cause.

But at the end of the day it's not insurmountable. For the first time I feel we may actually be winning the intellectual war. I have seen a dramatic shift in the comments sections at hardcore big gov bastion sites so that gives me great hope.

So people, I beg of you, LET'S WIN THE WAR FIRST. Once we win the war, the truth about everything will come out so if you really care about the truth coming out, stop being your own worst enemies and start helping us out here. This is the best strategy to show people how we have been tricked, fooled, and manipulated. Or you can keep caring only about yourselves, the rest of the movement be damned.

Sadly, I fully expect this to be voted down by the shills and their mindless minions. It doesn't matter though, they can only delay us, not stop us. We will win in the end because nothing can stop an idea whose time has come and the time for liberty has once again come to forefront.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

You just can't make this UP!


"Sadly, I fully expect this to be voted down by the shills and their mindless minions. It doesn't matter though, they can only delay us, not stop us. We will win in the end because nothing can stop an idea whose time has come and the time for liberty has once again come to forefront."

Why would somebody spend the effort?


Mr. Raceboy, such a bastion of liberty aren't you? Up there on your pedestal. Telling people what to think, what to talk about, and labeling all who don't see it the way you do as "dumb", "selfish", "fools", "shills", and "mindless minions".

Which is worse for business? An arrogant know it all talking down to others, or those you like to call names whom choose to learn about and discuss multiple topics?

You may want to take a close hard look at yourself to see if you may still have a little more to learn about "freedom" and "liberty".

Dr. Paul said if your not having fun, somethings missing.

He didn't even propose a strategy, he left us free.

I'll go with that.

Free includes debt-free!

You seem surprised

Don't you, usually, reply positively to snakepit22's posts?

This "liberty" thing is dangerous

You have to assume that there will be people posting here to try and discredit it.

This is not a game.

Interests are at stake.

Just refute them when they are off base.

That is the price you pay for freedom (of speech, etc.)