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ALERT! Syrian Rebels-kidnapped Belgian Teacher: "Moral duty to say this"; Rebels said Assad NOT Behind Chemical Weapons Attack!

Ce n'est pas le gouvernement Assad qui a utilisé le gaz sarin
** Moi, no Francophile; Google Translation: 'It is NOT the Assad government that used Sarin Gas!'


http://youtu.be/ykjx1vrEyH4

Stéphane Aknin
Published on Sep 9, 2013

** Google Translation:

The Belgian teacher Pierre Piccinin da Prata, abducted in Syria in April and released on Sunday, gave an interview to RTL-TVI Monday morning. He indicated that the sarin gas had been used by the rebels, and not by the Syrian regime.

This is not the Assad government used sarin - Video - RTL Videos

http://www.rtl.be/videos/video/456817.aspx [09.09.2013]

ORIGINAL Description:

L'enseignant belge Pierre Piccinin da Prata, kidnappé en Syrie au mois d'avril et libéré ce dimanche, a accordé une interview à RTL-TVI ce lundi matin. Il a indiqué que le gaz sarin avait été utilisé par les rebelles, et non par le régime syrien.

Ce n'est pas le gouvernement Assad qui a utilisé le gaz sarin - Vidéo - RTL Vidéos

http://www.rtl.be/videos/video/456817.aspx [09.09.2013]

H/T: InfoWars.com

Kidnapped Teacher: Rebels Said Assad Not Behind Chemical Weapons Attack

“It is a moral duty to say this”

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
September 9, 2013

A Belgian teacher who was kidnapped by rebels in Syria said he overheard the militants acknowledging that President Bashar Al-Assad was not responsible for last month’s chemical weapons attack.

Speaking French, Piccinin tells RTL that he overheard rebels acknowledging that Assad was not behind the chemical weapons attack.

Pierre Piccinin da Prata was kidnapped along with Italian war journalist Domenico Quirico back in April near Damascus. According to Quirico, the two were subjected to torture, humiliation and mock executions by the western-backed rebels. They were freed yesterday and flown to Rome after the Italian Foreign Ministry managed to secure their release.

According to Quirico, the rebels who held him and Piccinin as prisoners set about on a “terrifying odyssey across Syria.”

“We were moved around a lot…it was not always the same group that held us, there were very violent groups, very anti-West and some anti-Christian,” he told AFP, adding that when the two escaped they were tracked down by rebels within 48 hours and “seriously punished.”

Piccinin told Italy’s RTL radio that he heard a conversation during which members of the Abu Ammar rebel brigade admitted that Assad was not behind the attack in Ghouta that the Obama administration has cited in building a case for military intervention.

“It is a moral duty to say this. The government of Bashar al-Assad did not use Sarin gas or other types of gas in the outskirts of Damascus,” said Piccinin.

Cited Articles

[Google Translation] Piccinin: "It was not Assad to use gas"

"Quirico and I heard the rebels say"

9.9.2013

12:31 - The testimony of Domenico Quirico and Pierre Piccinin, released Sunday after being kidnapped and held captive for months in Syria, could turn all international scenarios. Piccinin swears that "is not the Assad government to have used sarin gas or any other gas on the outskirts of Damascus, it is a moral duty to tell." The Belgian said she had heard about, along with Quirico, a conversation between the rebels.

[Italian ORIGINAL] Piccinin: "Non fu Assad a usare gas"

"Io e Quirico sentimmo i ribelli dirlo"

9.9.2013

12:31 - La testimonianza di Domenico Quirico e Pierre Piccinin, liberati domenica dopo essere stati rapiti e tenuti prigionieri per mesi in Siria, potrebbe ribaltare tutti gli scenari internazionali. Piccinin giura infatti che "non è il governo di Assad ad aver utilizzato il gas sarin o un altro gas nella periferia di Damasco, è un dovere morale dirlo". Il belga ha raccontato di avere ascoltato in merito, assieme a Quirico, una conversazione tra i ribelli.

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Italian faced 'mock executions' in Syria

Published: 09 Sep 2013 14:33 GMT+02:00 | Print version
Updated: 09 Sep 2013 14:33 GMT+02:00

Italian journalist Domenico Quirico and Belgian national Pierre Piccinin, set free on Sunday five months after being kidnapped in Syria, faced mock executions and twice tried to escape their captors.

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Piccinin said on Monday they faced "real violence" and mock executions after being captured by rebel forces in April.

Quirico, 62, is a well-known war correspondent in Italy who worked from African hot spots including Libya, Sudan, Darfur and Mali. He entered Syria from Lebanon without an official visa and went missing in early April between Damascus and the flashpoint central city of Homs.

Scant detail has emerged of their release on Sunday but Quirico's newspaper said Italy's secret services had stepped up efforts to secure their release ahead of feared US military strikes.



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Notice how much information is getting out via Non USA

corporate controlled media.

A story like this should be top billing on CNN and FOX. Hell maybe it is, I haven't even cared to look at either one.

Which is one of the reasons

Which is one of the reasons why the level of trust is where it is, ALL networks should be airing this news, just for the sake of impartiality.......hold the the narrative per favor

yup,

like the O.G. CIA and other former patriots who worked in the intel community always say: Even the Pravda told actual truth; you just had to read page B3, D30, then the rear cover!

LOL.

Yup, among the omissions lies the truth; it's like you have go to non-US media to hear the truth about America, and you go to US MSM & 'alt'-MSM about other nations, and somewhere between spins and omissions you kinda piece together what's REALLY going on in the world!

One constant: any press in any given nation loves hatin' on other countries, and/or anyone not them.

LOL.

Hey, that's what CIA/NSA/FBI/DoD does with their Echeolon program (well...pre-Snowden revelation, at least it was understood that 'legally' each nation is forbidden from illegally spying on their respective citizenry so the NSA would spy on UK and UK on Canada, Canada on New Zealand, Australia on New Zealand, etc. etc. etc.); high time the citizenry started utilizing the same 'cross-intel,' too.D

Well, actually I think it was Ray McGovern or Robert Steele who said that about 88% of intel that CIA analyzed came from open source, 'public' and mainstream press!

Seriously, can telling the truth ever become an everlasting fad, like jeggings and hipster beard and nerd glasses and latte, for the gullible trendies & yuppies and the sheeple?

Hipster or Hasidic?

http://youtu.be/2idmi_yuMyA

That, will be when the world may change on a dime.

Any takers?

I'll bet you for a wee cup of a ginormous 30lbs tamper pressed dark dark double super double French-roasted latte...with those cute little latte art to top it all off!

LOLOLOL!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Okay, but this isn't going to

Okay, but this isn't going to convince anybody cause it's unreasonable to argue that a guy kidnapped by the rebels is objective in this conflict.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

lol! Oh you mean like

Stockholm Syndrome...

Barring your sarcasm (if so; haven't read enough of your stuff to know whether you're being really sarcastic, or not), if they were suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, the journos would say Assad did it, NOT the rebels.

And now, even barring the Stockholm Syndrome arguendo, frankly, just because you were a kidnapped victim, doesn't mean one can't be "objective."

To wit: hey, would you NOT be "objective" if you were kidnapped by murderers and overheard them talk, then you somehow were able to escape, then told the world: um, these asshole murderers kidnapped me, and I overheard them talk about ____??

Then again, like oBUSHma regime & AIPAC Likudnik warWHOREs are like sooooooooooo "objective," right??

LOL xD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Go ahead and make up your

Go ahead and make up your mind about me based on one comment - that makes perfect sense.

Look, the guy was kidnapped by one side in this conflict. I'm just positing that maybe, just maybe, he's a bit resentful and thus not too terribly convincing to folks actually looking for the truth and not taking sides based on what they want to be true.

I'm against a Syria strike, but I'm FOR the truth. Always.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Go ahead and make up your mind, based on comment

NOT made by me... because that, really makes perfect sense, right?

lol. I verbal mirror, 'cause I love .0)

Yes.

Now, let us parse, briefly (well...so okay, so it became a wee bit longer than I thought I was actually typing...lol), because I frankly don't want DP to become a YT-comment box back & forth, to wit:

Go ahead and make up your mind about me based on one comment - that makes perfect sense.

What doesn't make sense is someone assuming a response to a statement made by you, to be a holistic judgment AGAINST you, as a person, and NOT about the actual statement you put forth, as that is all I can go by, seeing as I've never met you.

So, if you really wanted to be accurate, your rebuttal should've read:

Go ahead and make up your mind about my comments - that makes perfect sense.

Which, is why I stated the following:

Barring your sarcasm (if so; haven't read enough of your stuff to know whether you're being really sarcastic, or not)

That, could not be more clearer. My statement suggests that I said with the understanding that I WASN'T sure whether you were being sarcastic (which is now clear, from your response you weren't). And, I even provided the rationale: I haven't read enough of your stuff enough to know what your sense of sarcasm is, or not.

Now, setting aside your jump to wild, unfounded broadstroke conclusions about what you thought I said, versus what I ACTUALLY stated, arguendo, suppose your position that it's good to still remain skeptical of the journalists(seeing as how he was functioning as one, for convenience, in the rest of this reply, I'm simply gonna refer to the Belgian teacher as a journalist, as well)' statements, because they've been held under duress, and their opinion of the rebels are hardly objective.

You know what? That is why I ALSO already answered that in the original post, IF you actually read it; to wit:

...if they were suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, the journos would say Assad did it, NOT the rebels.

And now, even barring the Stockholm Syndrome arguendo, frankly, just because you were a kidnapped victim, doesn't mean one can't be "objective."

I state the likelihood response scenario: when you're kidnapped, your response to your assailants are gonna be either:

1. You hate them [most natural response]
2. You FEAR them [also natural response]

3. You want to fight them, or at least figure out how to fight them and escape, regardless of the futility of the situation

[also natural, as humans have a need to establish normalcy and control; the only way to gain even a perceived sense of 'control' under the context is if you at least can control your immediate surrounding; ask any prison inmate]

4. You go zen or 'neutral'

[such response is observed in people who have lived through kidnappings for a longtime: you adjust; you realize that you will not escape now, your captors are for the time being keeping you alive, they've articulated some demands which gives you slight hope that until those 'demands' can be met, the bastards have some reasonable rationale to keep you alive, but doesn't mean one stops pondering or formulating escape plans, but still makes no sense to be anxious all the time]

5. You go slight to full on Stockholm Syndrome

[when you're an empathetic soul, especially if your captors are politically motivated and originate from some racially/tribally/politically oppressed minority in any given conflict, it makes it 'easier' for the kidnapee to develop some sense of human sympathy, because you tell yourself, 'well, obviously I don't like this, but if I had to be purely objective, I can kinda see why they're driven to desperation and had to resort to such drastic violent measures.'

Well, all that may or may not be true, depending on who your captors are. Regardless, sometimes that moment of objective assessment over time can turn into a full blown Stockholm Syndrome, because humans, especially good people constantly try to figure out where the other person is coming from. So, to such people, when they themselves can rationally dissect why someone may do what they're doing, that itself gives them a sense of control, for the simple fact that in their mind, they can rationally explain what is seemingly an irrational act: violently kidnapping someone else, against their will; something you could never imagine yourself doing.]

Now those are commonly cataloged responses for humans in captivity in the past; StartPage.com the topic, you're likely to read similar testimonies.

So, arguendo, with your 'skepticism' what would be the most likely motive behind these journalists making such comments, after being released from their captors?

1. They were well established professionals in their field in their native countries
2. What they say DON'T exactly aid the oBUSHma regime et al's agenda to go into Syria
3. Their comments DON'T aid the 'image' of who or what the rebels are
4. There are no monetary gains to be had from their testimonies.

So the question to you is, what motive would they have in lying, especially when WHAT they're saying isn't 'new' now: the sane segment of humanity are already doubting oBUSHma & other govts and Likudniks' assertions, for getting into another feckless illegal war in Syria. So while the journalists' testimony may add to the doubt vs. the oBUSHma regime, it's not a 'revelation.'

Skepticism is good, if you actually have examined the surrounding facts at hand. Anyone can keep saying "I doubt it, I don't believe it" perpetually, if you so chose to do so. But keep saying no, for the mere sake of saying no does not make one an actual "skeptic." That makes one a mere 'naysayer.'

Now, I was merely posting a video and related articles about the once kidnapped journalists. Neither of us were there. Neither of us know the Belgian and Italian journalists personally. My sole point was, as stated, EVEN IF you were of the mind that indeed Assad or his faction functionaries gassed civilians, by one of the more well established means of parsing 'he said, she said' is the Common Law litmus of "benefit of the doubt." And, testimonies from actual kidnap and detained victims testimony (which NOBODY DENIES whether they were in fact kidnapped and detained by REBEL forces, NOT Assad's) certainly lend a much more significant gravitas and veracity than those of the oBUSHma admin mouthpieces who've never set foot in Syria in the last few weeks 1st hand:

just one more piece of info that further corroborates the fact that one should ALWAYS presume whatever govt and/or its actors propagate, to be LIES, until 100% proven innocent: factual history teaches us as much.

or, even if you're still not convinced that this is another in a long line of false flags, even going by 'established judicial' litmus, the kidnapped journalists' testimonies inject a strong legitimate case for doubting the oBUSHma regime's lies: Barry and Kerry et al have NOT proved their case, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Also, like I said, just because you were kidnapped, does not mean one CAN'T be objective (well, humans are subjective, so when I say "objective," I mean it as, "as objectively as humanly possible"):

To wit: hey, would you NOT be "objective" if you were kidnapped by murderers and overheard them talk, then you somehow were able to escape, then told the world: um, these asshole murderers kidnapped me, and I overheard them talk about ____??

Well, I thought it was all pretty self-evident what I wrote, and why I wrote the way I wrote, and what point I was trying to get across.

But, let's face it, frankly I don't see the reason why some actually believe being perpetually doubtful about everything raises one's level of discernment. Plus, versus what? An actual on the ground testimony from kidnap victims of the rebels, vs. outright warWHORE propaganda of the neoCon crazies?

Ah...yeah. I'm gonna take the on the ground testimony of 'non-objective' once kidnapee JOURNALISTS with their moral compass intact, over those of the Likudnik WarWHORE neoCon degenerate fringe.

Hey, no one's forcing you to believe or accept anything. But if you gave me the testimonies of those journalists and the claims of the warWHORES and asked who's claims seem more truthful, even as a non-involved 3rd party observer?

I'm gonna say the Belgian and the Italian, without a shadow of a doubt.

So if the deductive 'skeptical' reasoning you've explained, so far, is the barometer by which you use to determine what you believe is the 'truth' (as an unrelated third party with no contact nor experience with the journalists or the kidnappers or 1st hand experience in Syria for the last 2~3yrs), I think I'll stick to my own discernment, the journalist's testimony, and the fact that oBUSHma admin is LYING about their claims that Assad is the one behind the chemical weapons attacks, thanks.

Because, that? Is the REAL Truth, based on actual corroborating publicly available evidence as well as plausible testimonies from reputable sources, NOT what you want to "posit," equating wishful thinking as "convincing" evidence .o)

I'm just positing that maybe, just maybe, he's a bit resentful and thus not too terribly convincing to folks actually looking for the truth and not taking sides based on what they want to be true.

P.S. Also, if you were watching that YouTube video with its auto translate closed-caption feature on, you can read that the Belgian journalist says that in 2012, he was a fervent SUPPORTER of the FSA's opposition against Assad regime. But now, after seeing 1st hand the realities on the ground, he's not so certain anymore.

Oh, yeah, and as you've already alluded to: then there's the whole kidnapping thingy that may have made him not so "objective"; 'cause you know, it's so non-"objective" to have what you once thought were your 'comrades,' only to find out for yourself the reality that no 'friend' kidnaps you, biitchsmacks you (physically) and does mock executions against you??

lol.

So again, is it still a non-"objective" 'bias' to change your perception of what once was, when faced with ACTUAL reality, which is telling you that those whom you used to think were the 'good guys,' instantly became the bad guys to you, the moment they kidnapped you?? xD

If you just rationalized that, you maybe suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and not even know it: you know, 'cause he kidnaps and beats you, 'cause he loves you.

LOLOL

P.S.2: The YouTube/Google auto-translate was a bit all over the map, but you can still make out the core points; a YouTuber provided the following, cleaner translation of what the Belgian says in the video:

"He says that he considers it a moral obligation to speak out, since Assad's regime did not use the gas in Gouta. He know this because he overheard a conversation between his captors. He urges the West not to intervene in Syria, and in any case not to do it because of this gas attack. He states he was a supporter of the FSA when the rebels were mostly defected Syrian soldiers, but that they have been eclipsed by myriad islamist groups paid for by the gulf monarchies"

*** If there are any Francophiles here, please correct me, and/or the video-caption translation. Thanks.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

just one more piece of info that

further corroborates the fact that one should ALWAYS presume whatever govt and/or its actors propagate, to be LIES, until 100% proven innocent: factual history teaches us as much.

or, even if you're still not convinced that this is another in a long line of false flags, even going by 'established judicial' litmus, the kidnapped journalists' testimonies inject a strong legitimate case for doubting the oBUSHma regime's lies: Barry and Kerry et al have NOT proved their case, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I can't believe it, well yes I can.

But an entire week and a half of propaganda and lies failed miserably to get American support to OK Bombing a country, yeah, even a 'little bit'.

And you get a reply on DP about basing this entire movement on being swayed by one 'comment'. Brother, 'ya can't make this stuff up.

yup, yup,

tell me about it.

LOL

Frankly, I really detest having to waste time and rebut/go on and and on about 'he said, she said,' 'your libertarian logic sucks, mine's better than yours' nonsense that seems to have overtaken a lot of post-election cycle talks here, when that time and energy SHOULD be spent parsing MSM/corporatist/govt propaganda, hitting updates on actual activism...er activities, upcoming freedom-oriented events and speeches, news, etc. But c'est la vie: we're all humans, and humans always indulge in their passions, no matter what it is. And, if such passion is having petty arguments to real intellectual back and forth debates, guess that's just that.

My only 'problem' is, once I do sense a 'faulty logic,' especially when someone assumes 'the method by which they came to such conclusion' frankly sucks, I I mean my QWERTYing fingers, um...almost can't help it! LOL.

oy veh. c'est la vie. but hey, someone else also noticed 'my plight,' too; if you were here, I'd buy you a beer or something 5x stronger! .D

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul