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Chuck Baldwin on war with Syria and Idiot "preachers"

Chuck Baldwin

Here we go again. Every time the United States gets ready to launch a military attack against a Middle Eastern country I hear TV and radio preachers talking about how right it is, because we are fulfilling some kind of prophetic scripture that will bring about the Second Coming of Christ. To that I say BALDERDASH!

In the first place, all of these preemptive, unprovoked attacks by the warmongers in Washington, D.C., are NOT RIGHT. They are egregiously evil. These attacks are killing tens--or even hundreds--of thousands of innocent men, women, and children with no moral, legal, or constitutional justification. There is NOTHING RIGHT ABOUT IT.

In the second place, man can no more bring about the Second Coming of Christ than he could bring about the first coming. God will send His Son back to this earth when He, God, is ready. No man or government of men can do one thing to assist or hinder it. What arrogance to think that we mortals could do anything, one way or another, to dispatch God's Son from Heaven. What a joke!

All of this infatuation with foreign interventionism, nation-building, and using US troops as some sort of global cops will eventually be the death knell of this country. It seems that many people in Washington--and in America's pulpits--have forgotten that America needs God; He doesn't need us.



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Baldwin's hubris

I stand with SIERRAHPBT in enjoying the thought of Baldwin being President. His political perspective from what I've read and heard in the last few years appears to be nearly as solid and principled as Ron Paul's. This particular writing from Baldwin though, crosses over quite heavily into theology and his message not as politician, but pastor, and reminds me of why I seldomly these days find myself sitting among the congregation in a church such as his.

false humility, the last gasp of ego

"America needs God; He doesn't need us." -Baldwin

That's one hell of a premise! I was sitting in an evangelical church a few years ago listening to a pastor's sermon when he uttered a similar phrase, "You need God. God doesn't need you! I thought of blowing my brains out right then and there. That's the most depressing and nihilistic message I've ever heard! My saving grace came with the thought, "How arrogant of him in thinking he knows what God needs!"

It's folly to make up in human grandiosity, that which we fall short in omniscience. It presents a false humility in placing ourselves as object of what God doesn't need. Such a notion cleverly hides our arrogance in claiming with confidence that we know what God does or doesn't need. Even the extremely tempting notion that God is perfect and doesn't need anything is a notion that projects our human concept of needs upon God. I find a truer humility in the notion that I don't have a clue. If our "original sin" is to be separate from God, what good is there in the notion that "God doesn't need us" anyway? In real life, in all situations where I've strayed and experienced the insanity of being lost in carnal existence, it's actually been the notion that "God needs me" that has returned me to his fold.

Baldwin's separation and grandiosity don't just end the piece but are borne throughout.

"What arrogance to think that we mortals could do anything, one way or another, to dispatch God's Son from Heaven." -Baldwin

This claim against arrogance paracoxically distracts from the arrogance of thinking that we know for sure that mortal activity is not a factor in God's plan.

"man can no more bring about the Second Coming of Christ than he could bring about the first coming. God will send His Son back to this earth when He, God, is ready." -Baldwin

The notions of the state of man and the readiness of God are perhaps not mutally exclusive.

I enjoy the bulk of what I've read and heard from Baldwin in recent years, but I am grateful that I post this to the Daily PAUL as I've yet to hear anything theologically or philosophically repulsive from Doctor Paul.

Yep!

I voted for him in 2008

Please post the link, or would you like me to?

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"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Please

Please include a link or something so I can hear this and be outraged myself. I trust no one, so that includes you. Please add a link here of these pro-war sentiments. I'm ready to agree when I see proof.

Are They Ready?

Are these war mongers really ready for the second coming of Christ? They should read or re-read the Book of Revelations before making any kind of statement.

Joined the Liberty Movement in Anchorage, Alaska, 1977. Ron Paul supporter since 1983.
In Liberty from the Pacific Northwest.

Bump!

Thank You Chuck Baldwin!He nailed it again!I would vote for him again!

I agree with Chuck

Ron Paul supported him in 2008.Nobody in 2012.I voted for Chuck Baldwin to.

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Sharia Law

Having several hundred Christian followers on Twitter, I have made a factual observation. Up until it looked like we would be helping either side of the conflict in Syria there was a common theme of stopping Sharia law from expanding to the western world at any and all costs including collateral damage to other Christians in the middle east.

The hatred is so strong against Sharia Law that I saw nothing but "Nuke them all" at the source before it gets here. What I now see is the second thoughts about going into Syria is only coming about because both sides are Muslim and practice Sharia Law.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

What most Christians know of Sharia Law

What most Christians now of Sharia Law would fit on the point of a pin.

They learned everything the need to know for their hate from Fox News, the bastion of journalistic integrity.

Oops, I meant bastards without any integrity.

Mises lecture:
http://www.dailypaul.com/159529/the-commercial-heritage-and-...

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This was my thought too Paul

I am not a Muslim or a supporter of Sharia Law but I don't know a whole lot about them so I can not judge them. But you are right one must have extensive Knowledge of a subject before even thinking of judging it because you might be wrong.

What I see is a couple of ancient practices still being observed by a small faction of just one of the many sects of the Islamic faith. It seems that ALL sects and tribes have now been stereotyped into one evil that must be eliminated.

It would be just like claiming all Christians are evil because of the one sect of Southern Babtists that worship snakes because of the evil applied to the serpent in the Adam and Eve story in the old testament. People still fear snakes for just this reason alone.

It all seems to be based on a whole lot of superstitious talking points rather than factual knowledge. As it turns out, factual knowledge has proven that only a very small percentage of snakes are actually dangerous, The rest are truly beneficial and not evil as thought for thousands of years.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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This attack by the rebel

This attack by the rebel forces, who are supported by the U.S. government, is an unspeakable act of terror, and speaks volumes to the viciousness of those rebel forces who seek to overthrow the Syrian government.

Syria's Christians Back Assad.

"Should Congress authorize direct U.S. military intervention in Syria?"
The result: 62.5 percent said no, while 37.5 percent said yes.

Hmm 37.5% are from the khristian Killer Klan. Sad.

Thanks for the links AJ!

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Looks like Thomas DiLorenzo is not alone in his contempt

Thanks, SIERRAHPBT.

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Proud to have voted for this man.

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