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Are We Better Knowing?

I can honestly say that I miss the days when my evenings consisted of hanging out with the neighbors drinking Cpt. Cokes and talking about our small and very insignificant lives. I was still in collage and living with my then boyfriend whom I will later marry. Gas was below $1.40 per gal and Lord when it did go up we were all going to take a stand and not buy gas on Tuesday to really stick it to em!

Yes...those were the days. But that all changed. I am a different person now.

Sometimes I am envies of those who are still in that place. Nothing has changed for them while my whole world has changed.

I was just thinking about this as I sit here watching reruns of Friends. I've been watching these all evening. Remember when Rachel got knocked up and we were all waiting for her to reveal who done it? Man...I used to love Friends. Have you figured out my age yet?

Clueless.

I was so naive back then. But I was a simple little happy person. I was happy. So am I better off now knowing what I know? Sometimes I'm not so certain. Sometimes I ask myself what I would be doing if I wasn't "awake".

If you could go back...would you take the red pill or the blue pill?

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It's a mixed bag for sure,

It's a mixed bag for sure, but red pill.

Though we live in an authoritarian world, knowing the truth allows us greater freedom because we're not restricted by shackles that others place on themselves because they believe the propaganda.

The main downside is constant, unending frustration with the way things are. But the causes of our frustration can sometimes be avoided, and if not, we can lessen the frustration by commiserating with others who have escaped the matrix and by mocking the authoritarians.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

I gotta say

I do get occasional bouts of anxiety and depression at random times and I feel like knowing all these things are contributing factors. I used to be a very patriotic kid who saw the world in black and white and was glad to be on the side of the good guys.

Do all the things you enjoy doing

As for what you know, just do the things you CAN do.

Don't worry too terribly much about what you have no control of. There is never any point worrying about that - it doesn't get you anywhere.

Being aware of our surroundings and actively seeking to effect change is something to be proud of.

It is only a burden in your mind from worry. Smile, enjoy your family life and move forward!

You can have fun AND be an effective and responsible citizen.

It's not easy knowing the truth of this world.

"Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever."

1 John 2:15-18

"...and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

John 8:32

Ann in Florida

I believe

the answer is yes to being better off.

Similarly it might also prove to be a call of leadership, individually or civically

The Red Pill

For Sale : Liberty
Price : Eternal Vigilance

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

I have loved my journey

through life to where I am now, that slow, sometimes painful shedding of the cocoon of conformity, gaining the confidence to spread my wings, and expand my thinking, and not be afraid to voice it.
We're allowed to be simple happy people for a time, that's what Youth is, a hiatus before the grind of adulthood.
Go with it, it's not easy to tip your thinking on it's head, but it can be heaps of fun.

Dark Side of the Moon, was the Album of My Youth. (can you guess my age?)
Ironic that "Time" was one of my tracks.
http://www.last.fm/music/Pink+Floyd/_/Time

Ignorance is bliss

But in the end you never really live in a simple world.

Use your knowledge to game the system. It's all theater and you actually know the rules, so use what you have.

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

Ignorance is Bliss, but Education can be a real B tch

if your life depends upon it.

Those who choose Ignorance over Enlightenment will likely pay a higher price for everything. Enlightenment, in most cases, does not come from a singular epiphany, but rather a series of lessons that build upon each other. Practice and Reflection are necessary to retain most lessons.

The Enlightened Man/Woman is not disposed to suffer as much as the Ignorant, simply because Invention and Innovation reveal possibilities that would otherwise be hidden.

That is not to say that Bliss cannot be enjoyed by the Enlightened, it just means that when push comes to shove, the Enlightened can straighten up quickly in order to deal with the situation at hand.

What you are describing in practical terms is Growing Up. That is why we so often hear Adults telling children not to be in too much of a hurry to grow up. Reality is life is often challenging and not so fair. Youth and innocence are difficult if not impossible to recover.

While Ignorance is Bliss, it also leaves one quite Defenseless and Dependent in what can be often a dog eat dog world.

Gosh I woke up this morning

Gosh I woke up this morning with the sun feeling so at peace. Thank you.

Solzhenitsyn talks about the happiest, healthiest man he knew

in prison. He said something like, "All of US were shocked at what had happened to us. But, HE seemed to never have expected anything different. He'd chosen his course deliberately." He encouraged all his fellow prisoners. I'd rather be THAT man.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

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"If that's insane, count me in."

Your comment reminded me that Timothy Leary, kingpin of the 60's counter culture, was locked up in solitary confinement for a time. They tried to break him in there, and he came out stronger than ever.

A quick Google search turned up this short clip from an interview in Folsom prison:


http://youtu.be/W4aO4k2agfc

http://www.openculture.com/2009/05/timothy_learys_wild_ride_...

Robert Anton Wilson talks a little about Tim in Cosmic Trigger, which is on my all time list of great books.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

Reclaim your mind

Knowing the truth about the world is a good thing. What causes so much distress is the fact that the world could and should be better for everyone. People should be happier. It is not good that there is so much centralized control over people, both physically and psychologically, but once you discover it you can learn to leave it behind for authentic reality. Hanging out with your neighbors and talking is authentic. Working 40 hours a week of meaningless work is not. Concentrate on living an authentic life and spend less time in what is referred to as "the real world," which is a reality constructed by institutions who want to use your life for their benefit.

This man can say it better than I can:

Reclaim Your Mind

Culture Is Not Your Friend

Nostalgia of better simpler

Nostalgia of better simpler time in our lives, care free and no worries, living life as life would let you, soaking up the happy times, hoping for it to never end.

I dont think i'd be on the dailypaul, if i didnt have my own personal nostalgia, so inocent to the things around you, so naive to miss the things happening, i was happy in my ignorance, but the "real world" eventually got me, and the happy went away, and without a say in it, i started to see, really see, as opposed to before, how can i describe it........things not adding up in the kind of world that we're being told we have........once my mind was open to them, they became increasingly common, not because they were getting worse, but because i paid no mind to them before, how do i know this........glances of the same thing you see today in history, wether that be yesterday, or a milenia ago

Sorry for my somber thoughts, nostalgia is a powerfull thing, i hope to see us get an opportunity to make a completely new and SHARED nostalgia, one that'll last the generations, not for recognitions sake, but for how profound it really was

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i want the happy back, i want the pursuit of happiness

Great Question!

I guess that's why they say Ignorance is bliss.

I wouldn't change, there have definitely been some "growing" times, but overall I think its made me am a more mature, balanced, and confident person.

Before I think it was easy to get sucked into the emotional whims of the matrix, now I realize that I am in control of my own mood/life and it is empowering.

You don't have to live in denial of TPTB to be happy. You can accept it, not agree with it, fight against it, and still be happy and carefree.

I think the key is to internalize the decision on your mood and not look to external factors for happiness.

It's not what you know

it's what you do with what you know that makes the difference.

Truth and happiness are inside jobs.. you own your truth and your happiness, you can make it work for you, or not.

Follow your heart; Use your head, to find the guts, and follow your heart.

Peace.

Of COURSE you're better off knowing

Just don't stress yourself out over all of it...Keep in mind, "it's just Government!" You can't let it control your life or you've already lost the fight.

Of course by knowing you now have a duty to inform others, but that doesn't mean that your life should end. One day, you will look back at the good old days when you could sit around obsessing about politics all day. :) Maybe by then we will all be fighting a civil war and NO ONE will be ignorant and happy. Then again, maybe not. Who knows? You can't stop enjoying your life simply b/c some bad things may happen or are happening.

If that were the case we should all be staying up all night worrying about when the next meteor will hit or when the next super volcano will erupt (it's overdue). At least you know what may be coming and you can better prepare yourself. That should make you happier, not sadder.

:)

"When I say liberty I do not simply mean what is referred to as 'free enterprise.' I mean liberty of the individual to think his own thoughts and live his own life as he desires to think and to live..." - Robert A. Taft

I've never been happier

Waking up was a shock to my system but the pain passed. Even though so much of what I have learned is negative...at least everything now makes SENSE. I have fewer material items than I used to have but the things I do have are valuable to me.

I really like things making sense. So much of my life things just seemed upside down and backwards. Turns out it was because things really are upside down and backwards.

I like what Lee Camp says...I'm a skeptical optimist...I see the glass as half full...but its half full of Shit! lol.

;-)

Pessimists see a glass filled

Pessimists see a glass filled halfway as half empty, optimists see the same glass as half full and engineers just think the glass is too big.

I always heard that a pessimist

is just an optimist with the facts. ;)

Actually

conservationists (aka efficiency engineers) see the glass as too big and engineers see 4 oz in an 8 oz glass (i.e. no opinion). Theoreticians would ask why all the liquid is inside the glass while I think realists would say "Is it cold and tasty?"

As to what I would do if I could 'go back'... I would go back as far as I could, bringing with me the knowledge of how to mass manufacture red pills and market them like flintstones vitamins. (Maybe even get them government mandated! LOL j/k)

Politicians see it as both

They want to get as many votes as possible.

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Ok my example

Lets say you have a choice. TO be sucker punched in the head or be punched in the head knowing in advance who will do it and when its comming?

Me ill always take the advanced info and use it to the best I can at very least it gives me a reaction time edge over those who will be in shock or confused when they get hit.

My response will be better to know in advance even if I can do nothing more to prepare.

Look we are all going to the same destination. We make diferent turns at crossroads there is no wrong answer. The keys are to have inner peace and to adress and control your fears. Have fait and confidence in yourself that you will make the best choices possible and take the best actions possible. That you will do everything to prepare against the worst case and hope for the best.

Knowing dont make it easier just the same as freedom is usually a tougher path than the security of a slave.

Ignorance is never bliss its just a stupid way to address the future that you can see in advance.

sovereign

Read the book of Ecclesiastes in the Bible.

This book was written by King Solomon in the last years of his life. He was reputed to be the wisest man who ever lived (apart from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself who is Wisdom incarnate and was the One who gave Solomon his wisdom).

Example:

"So I turned to consider wisdom and madness and folly. For what can the man do who comes after the king? Only what has already been done. Then I saw that there is more gain in wisdom than in folly, as there is more gain in light than in darkness.

The wise person has his eyes in his head, but the fool walks in darkness. And yet I perceived that the same event happens to all of them. Then I said in my heart, What happens to the fool will happen to me also. Why then have I been so very wise? And I said in my heart that this also is vanity. For of the wise as of the fool there is no enduring remembrance, seeing that in the days to come all will have been long forgotten. How the wise dies just like the fool!

So I hated life, because what is done under the sun was grievous to me, for all is vanity and a striving after wind."

Reading this is a perfect antidote for your present condition. Read it all and it will lead you out of where you are into another place where you have never been before.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Thank you. I really do need

Thank you. I really do need to dust off the ol' book again.

If ...

Knowledge is a realization of ignorance.

and ...

Destination value is measured by a journey.

then ...

Knowing a path and walking it are not the same thing, yet both elements are required to get from here to there wherever or whatever here or there may be.

Six Degrees of Separation

There is not an adult alive in this country today who has not been informed in some way or another about the ISSUES "we know".

Everyone is either accepted them or denied them.

You, and we, should be proud of knowing and educating because as the truth of each issue is revealed, deniers will remember where they heard it from, which will be our reward.

The truth cannot be denied.

Hold your head high and continue the fight, vindication will be ours.

Peace.

It's called growing-up and if you think it sucks now...

wait until you reach your 50s and you move from growing-up to growing-old.

Don't despair unless you have children and have to worry about their future and happiness.

My advice, find your passion and try to make it profitable. Treat others as you would have them treat you and remember the game is not to change the things you have no control over rather stir through life with your soul intact.

I have one son so I guess

I have one son so I guess I'll continue on with my disparity. He is 15 now. I've done my best. I pray he will be a part of the future freedom fighters and continue what we've started. But I hope he can still enjoy life.