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This is an Orange.


http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

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New 2013 Video Footage from 9/11

Great Video and Eyewitness Reports. (says updated 2013)

Drones and Freefall of WTC Tower 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHghW4Pg5k#t=150


http://youtu.be/cHHghW4Pg5k

eyes

eyes

idiots

You want something that you can see with your own eyes. You can plainly see that, like the moon, the sun moves around the earth. But you foolishly believe "so called scientists", who claim that the earth moves around the sun.

You have exactly zero understanding of physics or science in general.

You are su00pid, and have no ability to learn new things.

thanks Sunny. our posts

thanks Sunny. our posts compliment each other very well.

My pleasure

Sierra.

Ron Paul is My President

Building 7 was taken down

Building 7 was taken down with box cutters.

The Pentagon was bombed by the Middle Eastern Bunny.

Santa Claus hijacked Flight 93 with his reindeer.

And the Twin Towers fell because the Tooth Fairy found a way to redefine gravity.

Anybody who thinks otherwise will be labelled with the C word.

Conspiracies don't happen. Close your eyes and go back to bed.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

That was a good video Prior

That was a good video

Prior to it, i was not aware, or had considered the fact that ALL support beams would need to blow at roughly the SAME time to achieve freefall, i mean it seems obvious now, but i didnt have that technical background to think in those terms, experts should explain these simple concepts as if their explaining to those who have no background in building demolition, i assumed that if you blow enough floors above, the weight of them would free fall the rest below, but for all the beams to have gone near enough at the same time, wouldnt a fire like that be extremely obvious in the video clips, like the ENTIRE building (ALL support beams) engulfed in flames

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Visual identification is a fringe theory*

* According to some people. Better to believe what you're told.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Recognizing that this may never get settled

is why it's fringe. The liberty movement will always focus its attention on these favorite conspiracies, but is this unresolvable mystery what you spend your time talking about? I can argue who shot Kennedy all day long, but that's not where I'll find traction when I need it. That stuff, while intensely interesting, is not the "how to" of our liberty message. This might even be an effective manufactured red herring, despite the tragedy that people died on that day.

Spreading the message through focusing on this particular fascinating conspiracy is an uphill climb, because people are very resistant to actually accepting the real possibility that their entire reality is a fabrication, and their trusted politicians they proudly voted for are evil incarnate after all. It's a very hard sell, and rarely results in a quick win.

And once we open with this argument, since we'll never prove it, our opponents will trot out the wacky bird, tin foil hat labels. Thereafter, any subsequent statements we make can be easily dismissed and ridiculed. There's a reason Dr Paul never let building 7 pass his lips. To the best of my knowledge he never took up that argument. However, I seriously doubt he believes the official story any more than I do.

It's easier to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to a skeptical person that Monsanto harms the environment, because of the many mainstream articles stating how many countries have banned their products. That's not too hard to sell, which results in a win.

It's good to pick your battles.

Another easy win is showing how Obombya lied right to the cameras, since the clip of him saying no one's listening to your phone calls can be easily shown next to the mainstream's extensive coverage of NSA spying on everything that breathes. It more easily fits the listener's framework of reality, so it results in another easy win. It's been on their favorite TV news programs, so it must be true.

If we had more videos about how for the first time in history the US cannot build a coalition to start another war, and why, based on things the viewer already knows to be true, now that's a real chink in the warmongers' armor. It should be exploited.

I love the building 7 story, but what good is it to me? It will always be shakey ground to stand on. This particular red pill is too large to swallow for many, too sour for their taste.

It is a great clip nonetheless, and makes a strong argument in under three minutes.

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I understand your concern

because your right most people can't handle it, I told people at my work some came to believe it totaly and others were very angry, and some refused to watch it further, but we have to try and not give up, truth is more important then political expediency.

Thats been my expierence too

I showed a friend the Ed Asner video of #7 free falling, paused the vid, and asked him, "what do you make of that"? He said that's a controlled demolition and went on to explain the symmetrical drop as such. When I started the video back up and he then realized it was a 9/11 event, he got pissed. He refused to watch any more of it. That is a hard thing to change in people, maybe they are afraid of the truth and just don't want to know.

Imagine how your credibility

would have increased in that group had you started with Monsanto, to gain consensus. Then, when appropriate, you shared this harder to digest stuff to those ready to hear it. This is what I'm trying to say. That way, nobody goes around saying you're a wacky bird. You build a solid group. They learn you'll usually sound pretty reasonable, and they'll enjoy supporting you.

Hey, I'm as guilty of forgetting this as anyone. Because of that, in my zeal I've lost many an argument. I forget to carefully choose my battles.

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I totaly agree

that is when I was younger more idealistic and naive. I do understand that now, it's amazing what you can learn in 8-10 years time :)