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"NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel" Glenn Greenwald/ The Guardian

• Secret deal places no legal limits on use of data by Israelis
• Only official US government communications protected
• Agency insists it complies with rules governing privacy

"The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence data with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens, a top-secret document provided to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.

Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart that shows the US government handed over intercepted communications likely to contain phone calls and emails of American citizens. The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis."

More here http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-p...

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Surprise surprise,

you should see the expression of utter shock on my face... (sarcasm)

Is it any wonder that almost all of congress is whoring themselves out to Israel? The NSA spying isn't about terrorism but about blackmail among other purposes.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

It is clear our government

It is clear our government has been coup'd a while ago.

No nation in history would stand to allow this amount of information on its citizens and public servants to be siphoned off to another country, "greatest ally" or not.

oh my, this is just a gas

Ain't it? Israel uses chemical weapons on civilian Palestinians.

Very interesting read, in light of our BFF new revelations.


"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

I wish Michael would just

ban Granger already. He/she/it is clearly just hear to incite nonsense.

"ban Granger already.

"ban Granger already. He/she/it is clearly just hear to incite nonsense."

I used to see them as devil's advocate, but now its the same retarded logical fallacies and ad hominems over and over, derailing topic after topic with the same inserted 'agenda'

Comedy relief


"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

LittleWing's picture

A more accurate title

"NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data FOR Israel"

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

That looks like a classic case of treason!

They are giving information of Americans to another country!

The CIA started doing that a

The CIA started doing that a while back.. that'shot it got started..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

It's about criminal Israel: Where is The Granger Bot®?

Oh, that's right. The Jill Booth Bot® is commenting instead.

Hey, I don't mind being a bot,

it is better than being pig ignorant.

So you blame another country...

for OUR GOVERNMENT handing over YOUR information?

If someone you know and trusted broke into your house, stole all your belongings, then sold it all to a third party... you would be madder at the third party who bought your stuff?

FYI- this post is about criminal NSA... I'm sure everyone in the "intelligence" world would love to have any information the foolish US govt is willing to hand out.

So you think this memorandum

So you think this memorandum of understanding was generated by the US and Israel just said yea we'll take the information. Israel did not generate or push for this?

Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart.

If Israel pushed? F'em, but...

The blame lies within OUR govt for being foolish enough to hand over OUR information.

If I told you to bitch slap the next fat slob you see and you are dumb enough to do it... who is going to jail and who is sitting back laughing?... I know, maybe you could tell the police officer "Israel made me do it" (Of course if the first fat slob you come across is a cop, you probably wont get a chance to say anything, ever again)

I am not an Israeli, I have no say in what their govt does. I am an American... still dumb enough to believe I have a say in what our govt does. I will concentrate my efforts where I at least may have a sliver of hope making a difference.

IMO nothing would make the PTB happier than everyone running around blaming other countries for THEIR crimes.

Doing some webinars

People have a right to their beliefs and conspiracy theories about Israel.. I happen to like mine way way more than anyone's elses, here.. I think I've made my point.

Israel is awesome.. I'm glad I found it, don't feel bad if others don't.. we all have our lives to live and I'm loving mine.. hope you're loving yours too!


Ask your close personal

Ask your close personal friend, Louis Farrakhan about Israel and vice versa.

I don't know LF

I only brought LF up because when I did listen to him, he sounded a lot like people who claim to be in the LM, so I was curious.

Seems while some in the LM may agree with LF, they still don't see him as a leader, and I find that interesting too, because he speaks to huge audiences for hours, and has many devoted fans, and it only seems natural to me that because the issue of Israel is so big to both some in the LM and LF, he would have been a natural leader, and completely eliminating any concept that the LM was racist (which is what I have heard about the rEVOLution, then the LM..

I don't consider Jews a race.. I don't find the term "semetic" relevant..I know some do, but that is not me. I'm only stating what is obvious to me.. doesn't mean you or anyone has to agree..

Maybe That is why Michael's 'Word Salad' comment was so


A lot of people here, including myself care and Granger and her well being. And most of the responses she gets are from people trying to help her.

It would make sense that only a Bot would keep droning relentlessly on with salad after salad.

You care about me?

Most of the responses are from people trying to help me?

Help me what?

I have no doubt Michael is correct about my talking about Israel is like wurd salad.. it's very hard to put into words what I'm seeing.. the future.. I see the US going to hell, and I see Israel is thriving. So I wonder, how the hell is Israel thriving and we're losing our asses (It's not US money)?

You've got a right to your conspiracy theories on Israel and if that makes you feel better.. there you are.. it doesn't work for me. I'm good, hope you are too.

Save you from your self.

You're your own biggest enemy--always have been. You'll be your own undoing, and you'll drag others down with you, sad to say.



I have no idea what others I'm dragging down... others? I didn't know there were others.

It's obvious...

you always only think of yourselves. that's a major part of your problems. Always has been.

No s

Yes, It's obvious I always think of myself; and, for myself, it's not a problem, it appears to be YOUR problem, and maybe you should OWN YOUR PROBLEM rather than attackme? I'm minding my own business, thinking only of myself, so how did that become your problem?

Why don't you think only of yourself and apply the golden rule when dealing with others? "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

I'm not attacking you

I'm just telling you that your biggest problem is yourself, not me, or anyone else.

I'm not asking you

what my problem is.. furthermore, while YOU may see problems with me being myself, myself has few problems and the one's it has, you couldn't begin to fix for me, and I wouldn't want you to..

I don't blame anyone for MY problems, I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for MY problems. Tell you what, I'll mind my problems and maybe you can focus on your own, afterall, your biggest problem may be yourself, eh?

I'm telling you

even if you didn't ask.

Here is what I was replying to....

Post by "The Granger": "Most of the responses are from people trying to help me?

Help me what?" ...understand why http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UnPzp2lmNk I don't have audio at the moment, but I think this is what I want. The lyrics don't totally fit :) but....

I'm speaking for myself with this reply. I'm also helping you understand that I'm hip to your sh*t!

You create most of the problems for yourself. You've got a big problem with always trying to fulfill your desires while taking from others without considering the consequences. You're totally self-centered. The situation that you create comes back to bite you in the ass...usually very hard. And you usually cause big problem for others that are associated with you in any way.

Yes, my biggest problem in a way is myself...myself not watching people like you a lot closer--much much closer.

I am

totally self centered and what situation is biting me in the ass hard, I have no idea what you are talking about.

According to your song, "why is everybody always picking on me?" Is that your point?

Well, Daddy-o, I don't feel that everyone is picking on me. I think my position on Israel has some folks upset. Hope they get over it, because I'm loving what's I'm seeing, so if you don't, then it's your problem.

Watch all you like.. maybe you can get a job with NSA?

We should all be able to do anything we wish

Just don't hurt or take away from others what they don't want to give in the process.

Seems history hasn't taught you anything.


has taught me that there are many ways to stop people from being able to do anything they wish.

To not hurt another is impossible because people will find hurt when there was none ever intended (good intentions paving the way to hell), and taking away from other's is something we do everyday when we are inspired.. it is force and violence, abuse, neglect, attacking, undermining, lying, cheating.. these things are part of the human condition, just like suffering, we can not escape it.. oh maybe for a moment here and there, but no one can sustain a life without being hurt by another or having something taken away from them, hook, crook, force or violent.