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My Position On Israel (Inspired by Granger)

Granger and others have been 'discussing' Israel. When the topic is raised in my community, I also get staunch supporting/opposing views.

My position is this: Israel is free to aspire all that they want, just as any other nation should be free to do. I do not support them, nor do I oppose them.

What I oppose is when OUR representatives entertain ANY foreign lobbyist as opposed to their own constituents. THAT is when I have a big and legitimate problem.

I am for world peace. I am for free market. But I am also for my Republic remaining sovereign, so that we who live here may protect it no matter what may possibly happen around the globe.

This may be a rudimentary post, but some things require rudimentary answers/solutions.

Btw: it has been said that Israel is smarter and more advanced. Maybe, maybe not, but when our representatives decide to invest in OUR nation and not nation-build overseas, I have NO doubt whatsoever that we can and will hold our own.

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Is liberty and freedom for zionists only?

That's a great question, and it could be that it correct, at least with the way the world is turning.

Yiu don't care about my position and why you don't open any links, but rather rage and say hateful things.

You are what you are, even if you don't see it.

I'm not dishing out downvotes because I don't HATE you or anything about you even though I disagree with your position, I blame myself in not being a better communicator, or message deliverer like Ron Paul, which is perhaps what you need to see my point, and thereby stop yelling, being upset, cussing, calling names and insulting.

Do what you want..

Don't waste your time and energy

Granger is a master at manipulating words and changing what you originally said to make an argument. I've come to believe she is just a troll that loves to argue with people and get attention. I don't respond to Granger, reply to any of the comments or comment on Ganger's post. I have better things to read and do than waste my energy on Granger's BS.

I agree,

Granger is living in one of the most exciting acts in the play of human history. And she is determined to pick some label she found in wiki and defend it to her death, admitting that your definition of that label is different than hers.

She repeatedly uses the elephant explored by blind people as an example that the truth can't be known to be the same by more than one.
The result is always, as Michael put it, cheap words strung together into a Word Salad. I've spent enough time for myself to come to the conclusion that there is no honest communication occurring. Just her 'expert and only known by her' defense of her newly found label that only she knows the true meaning of.

Doesn't mean I don't like her and hope she finds some kind of an anchor that has meaning.

So, the Syrians are Hebrew?

...'cause Assad claims that Syria is the core of the Semitic people.

Middle Eastern Semites

are Arabs and Jews.

Semites would be those who

Semites would be those who speak the languages of the original tribes Hebrew(jewish), Arabic, Aramaic those being the largest but also Ugaritic, Phoenician, Syriac.

Generally speaking its predominately Isreal, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Ethiopia, Eritria, Djibouti, Qatar, Kuwait, Yemen, United Arab Emirates.

Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan are not primary semitic groups nor Turkey.

I have several friends from Ethiopia who tried teaching me some Aramaic. One worked for our American Embasy in Saudi Arabia.

I've tried to give Granger honest questions regarding Israel

but her love with that Country blinds her. I've tried to talk about Israeli people seperate from the Likud Party's Foreign policy/Nentenyahu, but to no avail.

We didn't even get into Palestine/Israel argument, but I'm sure others have.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

I agree

The Granger seems to have a very unhealthy love fest going on with Israel. Good post and one that most matches my views on the subject.

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”― Henry David Thoreau

Good post

Good post