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Thread Summary: Recall Senator John McCain

Let it start.

The DailyPaul is due something like this.

Let it begin right here.

How about it Arizona... the timing couldn't be more PERFECT! He's just been publicly rebuked by his own party.
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SUMMARY OF FINDINGS 09/16/2013
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G.

LET IT BEGINNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This thread was birthed Thursday... not quite 4 days ago!
A LOT has been learned by DIGGING, Phone calling and emailing.
Much THANKS to DP moderators for keeping it front paged pinned.

The Short Answer is YES.. John McCain CAN be recalled.

What We Know (now):

1. In the HISTORY of the United States it's never been done...
recalling a Federal Senator or Congressperson by the People of the State who elected them to office.

2. The ONLY U.S. Constitutional provision is for the Congress itself (or their own party)
to remove them with a 2/3 vote... an impeachment process.

3. RobHino surfaced up 2 excellent links that cover it in depth.
Great Reading and includes case histories and court opinions.
Senate.gov (click Recall of Legislative and Removal of Members of Congress)
Heritage.org - Can U.S. Senators Be Recalled?

4. Would a Recall fall under a 10th Amendment 'reserved power' to the States?
Not in the opinion of the Courts (see above links).

5. Is recall specifically PROHIBITED by the U.S. Constitution?
No, it is silent. Rather, the process for removal is outlined in the U.S. Constitution and the Courts have historically interpreted this to be the vehicle.
(see links above)

Voluntary Contract / Contract Law

6. Each State has variations of Basic Contract Law
Real Estate 'Contracts' for example vary from State to State...
but all have the essential elements for establishing a valid enforceable contract.

7. The People of Arizona through their State Government has established by Statutory Law a VOLUNTARY CONTRACT (not 'required') by which each candidate, both Federal and State Candidates, may sign (or not sign,) that DECLARES to the People of Arizona whether (or not) they will abide by and comply with the decision of a RECALL ELECTION and resign their office. This happens BEFORE the primaries, the contracts are FILED with the Secretary of State, and remain in effect for the length of their term of office.

HERE ARE THE LINKS:
Arizona Law: title 19 statues (all)
Arizona Statute 19: 221 Statement(s)
Arizona Statute 19: 222 Pledge
Sample Pledge document
McCain Pledged in 2010 Election (filing)
McCain Pledged (also) in 2004 (news release)

8. Can a person 'give up' their Constitutional 'Rights' or 'Protections' Voluntarily?
Yes. It happens every day. Consider the 'rights' given up by enlisted soldiers.

One of the ESSENTIAL keys, recognized by the courts, is that it be VOLUNTARY.. without fraud or coercement.

9. Can John McCain be recalled from office by the People of Arizona?
Yes. He most certainly can if a recall election is held after the required number of signatures are filed with the State petitioning that a recall election be held.

10. In Conclusion... to this point in the efforts of this thread, concerning an Arizona Recall Election of John McCain...
(Note: there were 1,702,326 votes cast in the 2010 Arizona Senate Race.)

there is only 1 critical threshold:

(1.) The Filing of (approx) 425,582 valid Arizona voter signatures (which is equal to 25% of the number of votes cast in the Senate race of 2010.) HERE and HERE

What Happens when that is achieved?

A recall election is automatic and his name is placed on the recall election ballot (along with a self composed 200 word 'explanation' of WHY it's unfair... his excuses... can't wait to see THAT. :)

Below his name will be a list of qualified nominees to FINISH HIS TERM.

What makes a NOMINEE eligible? 2% of Total Voters for the Office or (approx.) 34,047 signatures on a nominee petition. HERE

So that's it folks.
ALL that separates us from making this a reality....
is 425,582 disgruntled signatures.

►RobHino has secured a website for a Recall effort (thanks Rob!)
www.FireJohnMcCain.com
and has put up a 'hold' page pending developers collaborating.

►An existing Committee (or one created) must initiate the recall
with the Secretary of State. HERE is the handbook. (thanks Mark Vette!)

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He might have already got the message

McCain hints at retirement in 2016:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/322141-mcca...

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Let's do our best to give him

Let's do our best to give him his retirement (aka "firing") two years earlier than he expects

Other happy retirement announcements:

John (Jay) Rockefeller, Senator and longest serving member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Senator Carl Levin.

Which leaves McCain, Lindsey Graham, Steve Israel, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Peter King, Dianne Feinstein and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as prime targets.

Get rid of those 8, and their power structure is destroyed.

Out of those 8, John McCain is definitely the worst of them - though not by much.

Regrettably, Barbara Boxer

Regrettably, Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein have huge entrenched supporter bases in California, so I think they'll never be recalled even if they were caught holding the weapon at the scene of a crime. They are both permanent fixtures.

What would be amusing, is if we joined hands

With Dems and a challenger from the left to unseat Boxer.

Feinstein is soon to retire I think, but it would be joyous to rid Washington of Boxer.

I look forward to the day we

I look forward to the day we are finally rid of them, HOWEVER those special interests that have kept them in power for so long don't disappear when they are out of office, so it should be assumed that an equally noxious politician will take their place.

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LOL

"Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) hinted that he might be serving his last term in office, admitting that he does not want to become “one of these old guys that should’ve shoved off."

I think his realization is about 20 years late. Better slow than never I guess.

3 years is too long to wait!

We should capitalize on the momentum now!

www.FireJohnMcCain.com

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Yes.

On top of that, it would send a strong message to others in office!

Exactly

Sending that message is actually more important than getting rid of McCain, he's just one man. If McCain retires or has a fatal heart attack tomorrow, nothing much changes: one less crook in DC, but there are plenty to go around. Whereas, if we humiliatingly recall him from office before his term's up, the other crooks take notice!

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Ok we'll McCain...

But can we please go after Boxer and Feinstein next?

How about Miss Lindsey?

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

You make a valid point...

We need to flank them from the left too.

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May I add a formal petition

that the honorable senator sit down on a cholla cactus?

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Front page! Thank you!

Can't wait until it is on the front page everywhere!

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Count me in.

Count me in.

I would like to thank our sponsor Mr Nystrom!

Thank you Mr Nystrom and crew for providing a fantastic medium to kick start this action, it is way over due for Arizona and the Nation as a whole! Please let us know if it starts to inconvenience the operations of the DP in anyway at all. The unique passion and activism of the DP is exactly what gives this effort a very good chance of succeeding! J.R.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Recall Senator John McCain

Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was just going to post that :)
100 votes and 67 comments in less than 24 hrs.

No can do removal by recall.

Art 1, Sect. 5

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

Recall McCain

You're not looking at the State here that elected him to office. They certainly can recall him. You're trying to apply what the House or Senate can do once he's in office, which is different from the recall procedure within the state.

For Truth

When the people of AZ get done...

He will not be able to even enter the doors. His pass will be revoked. I think you are looking at federal level. At state level ANY elected official can be recalled anytime after they have been in office for 6 months. Some after 5 days. Local law trumps federal law. If the feds try to step into this Arizona would explode.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

If There Is Ever A Time For A Money Bomb, It's Now!

All we need are some trustworthy people. I don't love in AZ, but I'm in for at least 100 bucks for starters. But I'm gonna have to feel confident in the person organizing it.

From the Looks of Things

God's gonna recall McCain soon enough, hopefully before he does any more damage on Earth.

Can we just sit tight and pray?

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Sen. John McCain says foreign aid is not redistribution

Sen. John McCain says foreign aid is not redistribution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS3Kg1UVEJs

Jan Helfeld

:)

http://firejohnmccain.com/

I think a simple slide show type thing where articles, videos, and blog posts can be clicked through left and right in the white area. Each could be numbered! Reason #127, Reason #128, Reason #129 etc!

If you have some spare time, start collecting all types of links, images, and videos to build a good case against McCain showing precisely why he should be recalled.

Post links here in the comment thread.

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It's ALIVE!!!!!!!

FireJohnMcCain.com is ALIVE!!!
BWWAAHHHAHAHAAA!!!!!
Thanks Robbbb :)

Morning Goldenequity!

I just saw that too! it is good to see Rob is all in and taken the plunge. I just got your contact this morning. I sent you one just before I checked my email this morning. This is real and can be done! Thank you for getting the ball rolling!

J.R.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Deport McCain

To Guantanamo bay.

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