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Thread Summary: Recall Senator John McCain

Let it start.

The DailyPaul is due something like this.

Let it begin right here.

How about it Arizona... the timing couldn't be more PERFECT! He's just been publicly rebuked by his own party.
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SUMMARY OF FINDINGS 09/16/2013
► What I need are some PMs from Phoenix/Tucson/Flagstaff Paulers... contacts please.
Cheers,
G.

LET IT BEGINNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This thread was birthed Thursday... not quite 4 days ago!
A LOT has been learned by DIGGING, Phone calling and emailing.
Much THANKS to DP moderators for keeping it front paged pinned.

The Short Answer is YES.. John McCain CAN be recalled.

What We Know (now):

1. In the HISTORY of the United States it's never been done...
recalling a Federal Senator or Congressperson by the People of the State who elected them to office.

2. The ONLY U.S. Constitutional provision is for the Congress itself (or their own party)
to remove them with a 2/3 vote... an impeachment process.

3. RobHino surfaced up 2 excellent links that cover it in depth.
Great Reading and includes case histories and court opinions.
Senate.gov (click Recall of Legislative and Removal of Members of Congress)
Heritage.org - Can U.S. Senators Be Recalled?

4. Would a Recall fall under a 10th Amendment 'reserved power' to the States?
Not in the opinion of the Courts (see above links).

5. Is recall specifically PROHIBITED by the U.S. Constitution?
No, it is silent. Rather, the process for removal is outlined in the U.S. Constitution and the Courts have historically interpreted this to be the vehicle.
(see links above)

Voluntary Contract / Contract Law

6. Each State has variations of Basic Contract Law
Real Estate 'Contracts' for example vary from State to State...
but all have the essential elements for establishing a valid enforceable contract.

7. The People of Arizona through their State Government has established by Statutory Law a VOLUNTARY CONTRACT (not 'required') by which each candidate, both Federal and State Candidates, may sign (or not sign,) that DECLARES to the People of Arizona whether (or not) they will abide by and comply with the decision of a RECALL ELECTION and resign their office. This happens BEFORE the primaries, the contracts are FILED with the Secretary of State, and remain in effect for the length of their term of office.

HERE ARE THE LINKS:
Arizona Law: title 19 statues (all)
Arizona Statute 19: 221 Statement(s)
Arizona Statute 19: 222 Pledge
Sample Pledge document
McCain Pledged in 2010 Election (filing)
McCain Pledged (also) in 2004 (news release)

8. Can a person 'give up' their Constitutional 'Rights' or 'Protections' Voluntarily?
Yes. It happens every day. Consider the 'rights' given up by enlisted soldiers.

One of the ESSENTIAL keys, recognized by the courts, is that it be VOLUNTARY.. without fraud or coercement.

9. Can John McCain be recalled from office by the People of Arizona?
Yes. He most certainly can if a recall election is held after the required number of signatures are filed with the State petitioning that a recall election be held.

10. In Conclusion... to this point in the efforts of this thread, concerning an Arizona Recall Election of John McCain...
(Note: there were 1,702,326 votes cast in the 2010 Arizona Senate Race.)

there is only 1 critical threshold:

(1.) The Filing of (approx) 425,582 valid Arizona voter signatures (which is equal to 25% of the number of votes cast in the Senate race of 2010.) HERE and HERE

What Happens when that is achieved?

A recall election is automatic and his name is placed on the recall election ballot (along with a self composed 200 word 'explanation' of WHY it's unfair... his excuses... can't wait to see THAT. :)

Below his name will be a list of qualified nominees to FINISH HIS TERM.

What makes a NOMINEE eligible? 2% of Total Voters for the Office or (approx.) 34,047 signatures on a nominee petition. HERE

So that's it folks.
ALL that separates us from making this a reality....
is 425,582 disgruntled signatures.

►RobHino has secured a website for a Recall effort (thanks Rob!)
www.FireJohnMcCain.com
and has put up a 'hold' page pending developers collaborating.

►An existing Committee (or one created) must initiate the recall
with the Secretary of State. HERE is the handbook. (thanks Mark Vette!)

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Recall McCain and his girlfriend.



What was her name?
Oh yeah, Lindsey Graham.

Exercise Liberty and Recall.


America Rising.
The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

Great stuff! I wonder: will recall elections be harder for

the PTB to rig like general elections (via corrupted, hackable electronic "voting")... perhaps due to one or more of the following qualities of recalls: their comparatively more rapid development, local nature, and/or high level of scrutiny? Or perhaps due to technical differences in the process(es)?

Just wondering aloud, I suppose.

As we know / have now seen, recalls could present a fantastic opportunity to catch anti-Constitutional, parasite politicians by surprise (Hooray!). We should be ever vigilant with regard to any shady attempts to derail such actions.

(Not to be a downer; on the contrary! But we should always try to consider how those serving the dark side of the force might operate or how the dark arts could possibly be employed to our detriment....)

What would the Founders do?

The GOP only pays attention to who is paying

That would be the ROTHSCHILD ZIONIST counterfeit debt bank corp and their sold out XXXXXX ZIONIST scumbag minions who do not have human morality.

Who pays the GOP and the DNC gets their attention.

sovereign

meekandmild's picture

Let this be the year for recalls of elected officials

Recall all those who don't support their oath to defend the Constitution.

Where can I contribute?

Where can I contribute and how many times per year can a recall effort be started? Can we do one every week until he's out?

I'm IN

Estoy Dentro PESO OR DOLARES?

Cacama

I think it's every 6 mo's.

But I might be wrong.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Debbie's picture

I believe it depends on your State's constitution.

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Debbie

Hey man

I will come down there and give you a hand with the signs Bro.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Bump

Bump

"HIS"story is going on all the time. Whether or not one sees it, is the defining point of one's character.~MEB

I'm in!

So, who has a political committee in AZ?
Here's the AZ Recall Law Handbook:
http://www.azsos.gov/election/IRR/Initiative_Referendum_and_...

It'll take 25% of the votes cast in the last election in signatures just to get it on a ballot. Anyone have 'political' or personal connections to grass root groups or electorates here in AZ? Cause we'll need all the support we can get.

"Trust, but verify"
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."
- Ronald Reagan

exactly...

I need Arizona paulers to PM me at this point.
Cheers,
G.

This is something I can throw some support behind!

I just bought the domain www.FireJohnMcCain.com and set up hosting on my server. I will work on customizing the theme in the next few days. If anyone wants to volunteer to be a content creator, please PM me. I don't really want to manage this project nor do I have the time, but I'll offer some web, graphic, and marketing help if some Arizonians will step up to the plate and take charge of this initiative, included reaching out to other Recall McCain groups and posting regular content.

For Liberty,

Rob

I'm a serial entrepreneur and liberty activist from Texas!

www.RevolutionCarBadges.com
www.NonNetwork.com

This would be a huge contribution Rob!

You do realize the government agency resistance you are going to get hit with right? They are going to try and shut it down immediately. This is why I did not set one on my rented server hosting a long time ago. One would have to own the server outright and also own the static IP address to it.

Also one would have to have a few bucks to back them and a very good attorney ready. Would you be ready to commit to such a huge adventure my friend? I think getting help running the site by folks dedicated to this cause would be fairly easy. But you would have to be ready for the fight of the century as the owner to keep it up.

If you are willing to commit to something so huge it would be the best thing that could happen to the state of Az and this country!

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Under what grounds would I be forced to shut down the site?

All I did was click a few buttons and pay around $11! I'm not sure how may "laws" I broke in the process!

Just keep the content relevant and provide supporting documents. It's not libel or slander if it's true!

I'm a serial entrepreneur and liberty activist from Texas!

www.RevolutionCarBadges.com
www.NonNetwork.com

Rob?

No, your Domain name is not an issue at all it belongs to you now. It is all the small legal details that go into the site you put up. They will be looking for any little detail you missed to claim a violation my friend. All the way down to your users posting news or like from another copyrighted Domains, Script licensing, Record keeping, If it is hosted they will find a "conditions of use" violation, Etc.

The first thing they will do is see if there are any third parties in control of the server or IP address. They will use them to stop you if they can. So your domain can be used anywhere you like but you do not want any third parties in control between you and the net. Being in this position is probably the only reason the DP is still here and up.

NCMarc is an unsung hero to the Daily Paul for setting up a static IP address and Personal Server for Mr Nystrom. If you can find a simlar position to use for your domain name it would pretty much be good to go and stand a chance of survival. Just trying to give you heads up about what you are going to be up against my friend.

It would be a shame to get this thing rolling to becoming a real threat to McCain and have it shut down before it completes it's intended goal. Know what I mean? I got to hand it to you for sure, What a great domain name to be available! lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Recall McCain

I live in Delaware, but I could help by donating a little money. Put a PayPal button on the site to help support the cause!

In God We Trust!

You know what Connie?

I can see an unlimited amount of financial support for this! Thank you for feeling the same as a whole lot of us do! It is time to fix this issue.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I will be happy to donate as

I will be happy to donate as well. Anything people in other states can do to help besides money? Maybe phone banking, calling around after you get it on the ballot?

Formerly rprevolutionist

If this thing gets legs I'll make signs with this domain

Big signs too, all over LaPaz County AZ

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

'Bout damn time

Words don't do any justice to describe the mans' actions.

Bye, Johnny. Don't ever show your face in Washington State.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Get me some petitions

I'll get signatures. I used to be pretty good at it, but honestly the thought of getting involved in politics now creeps me out. Can't we just go to the arresting and trying them part and avoid all this drama?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

bigmikedude's picture

There is a recall effort going already for Flake and McCain

It was posted on DP a while back. Can't seem to find the thread, but here's the link.

http://senatorflake.com/recall-senator-mccain/

Thank you Big Mike

Unfortunately the state shut this guy down and he had to update his site, I am going to go to the Az. GOP site and see if they have any chatter over there about it:

NOTE: I’ve received notice that the state of Arizona wants the petition previously displayed here to be filed and reviewed with them before being circulated, and is asking me to register as a political committee, and to file campaign finance reports … despite receiving no contributions, nor being a committee.

Removing my petition and putting this on hold till I verify the state’s ”requests”.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

bigmikedude's picture

Ahh

Okay. Thanks for the update ATrue

Well, as I was afraid Mike

They are boot licking and have no forums to read. Just propaganda news, Lol. Thank you for your patience and understanding with me over the years my friend. If I cause you any trouble I truly apologize man.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Maybe you can network

with those who spearheaded the recent Colorado recalls for advice, strategy, etc.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

It's more likely than not

It's more likely than not that each state has their own specific rules.

BUMP!!!!

BRILLANT!!!!!!!

Brilliant!!!!!!!

Bump!!!!

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul