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What's Your Red Line?

And i Quote from the Declaration of Independence paragraph 2:

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security"

today we are wrestling with the same questions our founding fathers did, at what point has the government got to far?

I'm not in anyway suggesting we start an armed rebellion as they did, but if the trend of "abuses and usurpations" continues at what point will that be to much for you to tolerate?

How many abuses of liberty can you live with?

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be REFRESHED from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."
- Thomas Jefferson November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith.

I believe there's a very important reason Jefferson said this and a lesson he was trying to teach. The trend from liberty to Despotism or vice versa is not a new thing that begun with America it has been repeated time and again throughout history. It is up to us to be the vanguards against this type of encroachment.

So what is your "Red Line?"

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Paul 3V0L's picture

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We passed my "Red Line" a long time ago.

I'm waiting for the rest of you.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

My position exactly. You beat

My position exactly. You beat me to it!

It's been a long, long wait too.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

My red line is ,,,,,.....

When a extortionist and theif comes to me with claims that I am in debt to them.

These extortionist are very clever and have armed thugs to enforce.

They tell me that a debt was acumulated on my behalf. They tell me that the money that was borrowed on my behalf was used for services that benifit me and services that I use.

I say well its all good and well these services but I never entered into a loan agreement I never recieved any of the money from these so called loans that alegidly occured. So I ask to see any type of contract that I made agreeing to these services in return for this debt they claim I owe.

They tell me that this contract is implyed by the fact that I was born in and live in a geographic area that they claim me as their citizen.

When I do my research I find out that these loans they claim I have a debt to pay were created at a computer keyboard out of thin air and from nothing of value. So they took nothing of value and made it into a loan that they claim I have to either pay or they will take any property I have and even put me into a work slave prison.

Well my red line is submitting to liars theives extortionists and mass murders.

So my final answer to these is always the same NO and my solution is a individual leaderless revolt using enlightened disengagement as my primary weapon of choice.


Great Question!

...And I must admit; Have I already reached that point?

Watching the "pile-on" of bogus candidates to subvert the Paul Campaign jump-started me to do things I'd not done in ages.

To travel to Tampa-RNC and view firsthand the "police-state" being practised by the MIC pushed me further on.

Speaking out about the issues, contributing to various campaigns, and prepping came also (food storage,ammo,equipment,activism).

And the "Open-Theft of the Election Process" certainly was momentous and a catalyst, soon followed by despair and depression.

I pushed further on however,reaching out to a national veterans group, through local contacts, traveling to Oklahoma and San Antonio....what a eye-opener that was!
And although I attempted to attempt to change the minds and hearts of those involved, their responses were ,to say the least, very disappointing.
I had resolved to keep working through the local veterans contacts when my world was turned upside down.
A motorcycle accident that resulted in a stat-flight helicopter-ride to a regional trauma center and subsequent two-week hospital stay kept me out of-the-loop.
I am not yet whole.
My convalescence at home continues, and will be for some time, but I have drawn a line there;
Between the faithful few who came to my assistance,both then and now and the plastic-patriots who "talk-the-talk" but do NOT "walk-the-walk".
Call it an education...a life-lesson.
But I've drawn a few lines along the way....and reacted accordingly.
It's an ongoing process.
I've been encouraged by those who have "awakened".
I can't wait to get rolling again.
And each line drawn and crossed will be met by an appropriate response from me.........and in retrospect:
Quite possibly it all started with that " pile-on" and the "theft".

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Conspiracy Theory w/ Jesse Ventura - The Police State

"Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies." - Dr. Ron Paul

Re: CT w/JV "Police State" and censored season 3 TSA episode that never aired.

"It's clear they're doing everything they can to make it a failure so they don't have to renew it." - Gov. Jesse Ventura


"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."


There is no duration defined in the Oath